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Here's a Soldano GTO high voltage tube preamp (you basically use a laptop power adapter since it sucks like 600ma at 12v but runs internally at hundreds of volts): https://reverb.com/item/18475962-sushi-box-fx-black-eye-tube-distortion Unfortunately, the demo video is basically useless as he is using an incredibly shrill amp to demonstrate it.  Also, he should've just gone into a power amp instead of running it into the front-end of something. edit: sorry it runs at 9v at the jack but 200v internally at 1 amp (!!) 
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The Muppets On PCP posted:the closest thing to the old matamp/orange sound in a pedal is a black arts toneworks lstr trump_wrong.gif https://dunwichamps.bigcartel.com/product/da120-overdrive The dude at Dunwich is the best it gets at designing circuits and especially at doing the tube to fet adaptations. I mean cmon now listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaQx5H7o_74 Dang It Bhabhi! fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Mar 18, 2019 |
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:https://dunwichamps.bigcartel.com/product/da120-overdrive
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 I bought this and I like it. Haven't tried it at practice yet, but it seems like it will keep up fine.
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Professor Science posted:ugh if that pedal is ever in stock I must have it. that Dopesmoker sound.... he gets pretty busy and as far as i know only builds as a hobby/when he has time https://fridayclubpedals.com/collections/frontpage/products/pd100 < the dude who makes mr black pedals does these and they regularly go on sale for 100 The Muppets On PCP posted:the closest thing to the old matamp/orange sound in a pedal is a black arts toneworks lstr this is also a good option, as is the midnight amplification holy mountain (although that one’s real expensive)
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Kudos to Mr. Black for not demoing it with Dopesmoker but he should've just demoed it with Dopesmoker. I'm not sure it's very close to Matampy but it sounds great in its own way.
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Kudos to Mr. Black for not demoing it with Dopesmoker but he should've just demoed it with Dopesmoker. I'm not sure it's very close to Matampy but it sounds great in its own way. http://www.fridayclub.jackdeville.com/audio/swordin.mp3
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Kudos to Mr. Black for not demoing it with Dopesmoker but he should've just demoed it with Dopesmoker. I'm not sure it's very close to Matampy but it sounds great in its own way.
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Yea that tone has a mustache and wants you to hold his beer. Good poo poo.
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Death Panel Czar posted:To be fair this pretty much nails what I want out of a demo: I’m sold based on this demo alone. These go on sale on the reg?
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Doomy posted:I’m sold based on this demo alone. These go on sale on the reg? pretty regularly yeah and they pop up used pretty often just because they're cheap enough to experiment with and then flip if you don't like them
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That’s a lot more digestible than the Dunwich
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I just bought a GK MB500 (500w @ 4ohms, 350w @ 8ohms), and am trying to pair it with one or more speaker cabinets. I'm aiming for something 8ohms to start so I can add to it later, I'm just wondering about potentially not "driving" a cabinet enough if that makes sense. I could get an Eden D410T (540w, 8ohm cabinet) now for pretty cheap, and a second one if I wanted down the road, but I'm worried that 250w driving each cabinet wouldn't really be "enough". I'm pretty new to pairing heads with cabinets as when I was last gigging regularly I always mooched off of my pal's Ampeg full stack and didn't really have to question anything.
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It'll be fine, 350 watts is a lot more power than people think it is.
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Pokey Araya posted:It'll be fine, 350 watts is a lot more power than people think it is. Yeah, for sure. I guess what I'm asking is that say if did upgrade to having two of them eventually, therefore pumping 250watts into each 540watt rated cabinet, do you think that'd still be enough wattage to drive the cabinets? Something I was reading mentioned that if a cabinet isn't driven hard enough there might be tone issues? This is probably complete horseshit, I know the electrical side of things well enough but not the tonal implications. Sorry if this is simpleton stuff I'm just not wanting to paint myself into a corner with a purchase.
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Jcam posted:Yeah, for sure. I guess what I'm asking is that say if did upgrade to having two of them eventually, therefore pumping 250watts into each 540watt rated cabinet, do you think that'd still be enough wattage to drive the cabinets? Something I was reading mentioned that if a cabinet isn't driven hard enough there might be tone issues? This is probably complete horseshit, I know the electrical side of things well enough but not the tonal implications. Sorry if this is simpleton stuff I'm just not wanting to paint myself into a corner with a purchase. it’ll be fine mainly the issue with “not driving cabs hard enough” relates to speaker breakup, which is not desirable in every single case; it’s another form of distortion so if you’re not especially worried about having that jon entwistle roar, you’re probably gonna be fi e
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I think my power tubes are dying, since I'm getting volume drops after I've been playing for a few hours. No big deal, 6V6s are cheapish, whatever. But I'll need to bias my amp when I swap out tubes, and I've never done that before. My amp has bias probes and an external (ish) potentiometer so I think I can do this without killing myself, but can anyone tell me what kind of multimeter I'll need to do this? Will a $10 one from amazon work? Edit: Here's the manual for my amp if it makes any difference: http://www.ceriatone.com/ceriatone/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/ceriatone-son-of-yeti-manual.pdf Gnumonic fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Apr 9, 2019 |
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yeah any multimeter will work it's was very nice of them to stick some probe jacks on the back. not nearly as fun as taking out the chassis and measuring current across the standby lugs. nothing like that satisfying little spark and wondering if today's the day you're gonna die
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The Muppets On PCP posted:yeah any multimeter will work Yeah I honestly wouldn't bother doing it myself if it didn't have the probes. I don't have enough presence of mind to remember to keep one hand in my pocket to prevent a foolish death. Anyway thanks! Hopefully I'll survive this.
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Ok Bias question: Got my tubes and multimeter and I'm running into an issue: The bias reading for each tube differs by 2-3mv. One of the tubes gives me a bias reading of 25mv, which is what the manufacturer recommends, but the other is giving me 22-22.5. Is this normal or does this mean something's hosed up? (My amp has a resistor in it to make biasing easier, I apologize if bias readings aren't normally in mv and this is confusing.) Amp *sounds* fine. Edit: Amp sounds *amazing* actually. I didn't even install the new tubes yet, just adjusted the old ones, and there's so much more headroom now. Gnumonic fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Apr 11, 2019 |
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aint no power tubes measured in millivolts i reckon.
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:aint no power tubes measured in millivolts i reckon. "You might wonder why your DMM is set to millivolts and not milliamps – simply, we have a 1 Ohm resistor placed between your probe jacks and ground to convert a current reading to a voltage reading. That way, a bias current of 24mA measures as 24mV on your DMM." Or so my amp's manual says, anyway. Anyway I swapped all my power tubes and rebiased and everything was working fine for a while but now I'm getting weird rear end *gain* drops when the amp's been on for a while. If gain is randomly dropping (without a corresponding drop in volume), that's probably a bad preamp tube, right?
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My guitar sounds best free from the oppression of pedals and direct into my amp.
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Alright y'all, I'm losing my poo poo. I have five amps. Three of them have zero issues. I have two footswitches, and Orange single and a Vox VFS2A double. Both work with those three amps. The last two (my new old Ashton and my Hiwatt) however have issues. If I plug either footswitch in they will set themselves to a channel and not change. LEDs work fine. No switching happens. However, if I swap the footswitch for a tap tempo it works all of a sudden. It will change channels, modes, reverb, etc, but only for as long as the switch is held (cause it's momentary). But the other footswitches seem to work fine with all the other amps. Any ideas? I first thought the jacks were faulty, but the tap tempo works perfectly. Then I thought the footswitches were faulty but they work 100% in everything else. I'm kind of lost. I'd rather not give up and take it to a tech over something that's probably basic as poo poo.
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Gnumonic posted:"You might wonder why your DMM is set to millivolts and not milliamps – simply, we have a 1 Ohm resistor placed between your probe jacks and ground to convert a current reading to a voltage reading. That way, a bias current of 24mA measures as 24mV on your DMM." whoa! neat!
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syntaxfunction posted:Alright y'all, I'm losing my poo poo. I have five amps. Three of them have zero issues. I have two footswitches, and Orange single and a Vox VFS2A double. Both work with those three amps. Check the manual, the hiwatt and ashton jacks are probably the opposite polarity from your other amps, and thus why the switches are backwards, if that makes any sense.
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Pokey Araya posted:Check the manual, the hiwatt and ashton jacks are probably the opposite polarity from your other amps, and thus why the switches are backwards, if that makes any sense. Haha oh if it were only that simple. I can find the schematics fine but as far as a manual goes? Good luck. I've been searching for a week. The Hiwatt was made by the old management, so they don't have a manual available on their site. The Ashton seems to have been completely disowned. Either way, emailing support for either was useless. I'm just going to a local music place Monday and they're gonna help plug in various types of switches. Hopefully we'll find a match.
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Get a foot switch with a polarity option ala Boss https://imgur.com/a/6XNT2wf
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Confused why any of the 'fuzz' pedals are considered stoner, this sound is cranked amp right, not fuzz. Maybe cause I have more a thrash metal background I'm confused about distortion tones. For me the ultimate stoner metal tone is Sky Valley Kyuss and that doesn't sound like fuzz to me. I'm really thinking about these pedals like LSTR etc. that are fuzz pedals but are supposed to be giving that sound of Matamp / Electric amp. Old Electric demos sound amazing and I've always wanted one, but they aren't fuzz circuits right? Like in the preamp gain stage it's fuzz or distortion or what, I guess is my ask here. Overdrive/distortion is a different beast. So why are these stoner pedals doing fuzz? Am I confused? Maybe in the end gain is gain is gain?? Or maybe Sleep was using fuzz so that approaches dirt from another angle and that's what people are trying to get here?
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mr_package posted:Confused why any of the 'fuzz' pedals are considered stoner, this sound is cranked amp right, not fuzz. Maybe cause I have more a thrash metal background I'm confused about distortion tones. For me the ultimate stoner metal tone is Sky Valley Kyuss and that doesn't sound like fuzz to me. I'm really thinking about these pedals like LSTR etc. that are fuzz pedals but are supposed to be giving that sound of Matamp / Electric amp. Old Electric demos sound amazing and I've always wanted one, but they aren't fuzz circuits right? Like in the preamp gain stage it's fuzz or distortion or what, I guess is my ask here. Overdrive/distortion is a different beast. So why are these stoner pedals doing fuzz? Am I confused? Maybe in the end gain is gain is gain?? Or maybe Sleep was using fuzz so that approaches dirt from another angle and that's what people are trying to get here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugj6rvDj0Mk 
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I stopped this video @ 02:30 just to post that I am laughing my rear end off because of this track, and not in any bad kind of way. I've probably started to ask what all these different kinds of metal are, when you guys say stoner or doom or whatever, but always thought I couldn't possibly get it. Then I got curious and clicked on this video and at first I thought maybe someone found a one-string fretless guitar and played it with one finger until the drums came in and established the beat. Ok, it is a massive groove and a monster of a beat. All I think I am hearing are octave unisons on guitar and bass (at this point what really is the distinction?) but the singer comes in with his effects drenched voice and something just loving clicked. Maybe it was my balls finally dropping? Seriously the production is crazy tight. There's basically no reverb to speak of. This is exactly the kind of in-your-face mixing that I so enjoyed way back when in 1994 when Dogman came out, except stripped down even barer. And yeah. I was a huge pothead for many years. I can absolutely get the appeal of this kind of simple, monstrous, heavy groove to bring a whole new level of gently caress yeah to a high buzz (and a pizza.) Look this was a lot of very pointless words and I am not saying I am awoken and will be pursuing a ton of this stuff but o my do I get this. This track, the 1/3 that I have heard of it, loving slays. In a sleepy way. Like if Eeore formed a band. A lot of words to say, thanks! I'm listening again and giggling while I'm banging my head at what feels like maybe 75 bpm. Yeah I just finished it and I loving love it. It even has a traditional pentatonic guitar solo. loving cool as hell and I wish I was baked. Here's an example of a track from Dogman that I was referring to. A lot of octave unison going on here too, and I promise it's not meant as a "I was into this poo poo before you were." I just don't care about that. Instead I hope that if you haven't heard it, you'll like it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsdPtt2lUxg Final E: FancyMike is your avatar from the 80's horror movie Lifeforce? I saw that when it came out and I was very tender and very young and it hosed with me pretty bad for a little while. VV throwing up one tired horn for you, my man VV Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Apr 14, 2019 |
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Stoner/sludge/doom are awesome. I love how the genre progressed into this because sometimes you want some metal, but dont really want to throw up the horns because gently caress, you're tired. So tired.
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mr_package posted:For me the ultimate stoner metal tone is Sky Valley Kyuss quote:my ask Demon Cleaner in particular, but the whole album really, does sound like fuzz to me. Fuzz will get more aggressive if you run it through an aggressive amp, but that doesn't sound like what's happening here. I guess he was using a JCM900, according to some quick internet research. Never played one, but based on my experience with other Marshalls, I'd be surprised if they could be gotten to sound like that, even with the downtuning and bass cab, without some sort of fuzz, to take away some of the crispness and give it that sort of lazy underachiever sound I hear all over the album. I generally get that sound with a germanium fuzz and often a touch of suboctave. Silicon fuzzes are a bit bright. I had an LSTR as part of the Sarcophagus pedal (Pharaoh/LSTR I think) and I never got any sound I liked out of the LSTR. Too abrasive, not really that fuzzy to me. I've got some amps on the fuzzy side, especially if you feed them a loud bassy signal, but in general, fuzz pedals are a lot easier. My favorite fuzz setups are, in order: germanium Fuzz Face clone (best for Kyuss) two germanium Fuzz Face clones (sometimes two is better) MXR Sub Machine or Sub Octave Bass Fuzz into BAT Pharaoh (Pharoahs are great bass fuzzes) Occvlt Old Hag (germanium distortion/fuzz from Poland, really good pedal) Hologram Dream Sequence is a really good suboctave in front of a fuzz too, but it's insanely expensive to use it just for that. Gives a really good Space Truckin' sort of sound.
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Dr. Faustus posted:throwing up one tired horn for you, my man
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Faustus being enlightened to the joys of doom metal is my new favorite 2019 moment  It’s an awesome genre! Nothing else quite scratches the same itch. Heavy, strung out, groovy, raw, droning and psychedelic.
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Kilometers Davis posted:Faustus being enlightened to the joys of doom metal is my new favorite 2019 moment I listened to "I, Witchfinder" and it started the same way: a goofy audio clip, HUGE distortion, a riff, and the drums fading in... and I said, "Yessssssssss." Then I checked out Sky Valley Kyuss and my first thought was, "That sounds a lot like Josh Homme ... OOooooohhhhh!" And the best part? Dogman was recorded in 1993 and came out in 1994 and at the same time, guess what else was going on? This was. It's like that moment in a movie when you finally see how connected everything is. Suddenly I perceive the parallel strands of music that go back to Sabbath and look at all this amazing stuff that grew from it. I also recognize why I am not turned off by it: No Nu-metal emo-gently caress screaming poo poo. It's much more like Ozzy putting a simple melody through a Leslie. I am totally down with that. I will need some time to digest this. And I do apologize as I know the amp thread is not the right place for this stuff. It's been a very fun and interesting night and I must say I haven't had this kind of fun in way too long. It's a red-letter day for me, too. poo poo, sorry, I am not done. You see when I was a kid I thought Sabbath was stupid. I thought it was just for disaffected teens. I am not even sure I was wrong about that. What I am sure of is this stuff I listened to last night elevates it somehow. Don't ask me how because I am going to have to sleep on it. Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Apr 14, 2019 |
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Dr. Faustus posted:And I do apologize as I know the amp thread is not the right place for this stuff. i think you'll find it's the one correct and proper place https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEN1ya0qqh4
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The ultimate stoner band, for me, is Nebula: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knFfTkxYC5U Also, Faustus, have some more heavy psychedelia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCxlPQHdauo (those dudes are former members of Electric Wizard)
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I played an orange dark terror in the store (with a sales clerk who drew me in with the promise that for 30 seconds they'd step outside the store and I could turn it up to 10) and I might be prepared to renounce digital now. I seriously loved the original tiny terror I had. They're fantastic sounding amps and not just "for the size" the ability to wind it up to power tube distortion is part of the fun. The only issue I had with my old one was a few gig where we weren't given any PA reinforcement and I couldnt get any clean headroom, but gently caress clean headroom.
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