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Preechr
May 19, 2009

Proud member of the Pony-Brony Alliance for Obama as President
Also, he was a bear. I assume that means his health pool expanded.

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the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

raminasi posted:

I know nothing about this game’s mechanics, why was the one damage she took from each hit more of a deciding factor than the damage she was doing with each hit?

NinjaDebugger posted:

Because vampires can soak damage all goddamn day. It was stipulated that minimum damage was one for this fight, so she was taking one damage from each of her attacks and also one damage from each of his, while he was only taking the one damage from each of hers.

Preechr posted:

Also, he was a bear. I assume that means his health pool expanded.

What they said.

Given the mechanics of the game system and the rules in place for the duel, the absolute most damage either of us could do was 2 points, and that was if we landed a crit.
But, since we both had Fortitude, we could literally ignore that damage, hence the stipulation that we had to let at least one point go through.

So, every time I hit her, she would take 1. Every time she hit me, we both took 1.

And turning into a bear gave me two extra hit boxes, combined with the fact that I had more Blood to spend on myself to heal, she just couldn't win.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

the_steve posted:

The time for the duel rolls around, and as I enter - replete with red basketball shorts, a red t-shirt with STIGMANIA painted on it in yellow and combat boots - Rick Derringer's "Real American" plays on a wireless speaker I had stashed in the room earlier, and I do as close to a Hulkamania entrance as I can before finishing with "WHAT'CHA GONNA DO AVA, WHEN STIGMANIA RUNS WILD ON YOOOOOUUUUUU!?" before ripping the shirt off, revealing a yellow shirt with STIGMANIA painted in red.
This is the greatest thing, holy poo poo.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!



Didn't get much in the way of pictures, this is pretty much the best/only one.
Stig, and his second in the duel, Charlie of Clan Brujah.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


:extremely bear voice: rrrrrhg yyyyyeaaaaah brrrrother!!

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
Starting my last game I had two rules for player creation choices: Only official WotC material (no homebrew), and no flyers. Because gently caress flying as a racial trait, it is just so so dumb for reasons others have already elaborated on.

And I'm going to be perfectly blunt, but the fact you decided to bring it up in group email instead of just person to person was a dick move on your part. He was probably annoyed that you decided to publicly question his choices instead of asking for private clarification, and I honestly don't blame him. Really the only thing I see wrong from his end was not being more clear and upfront about not wanting flying PCs.

EthanSteele
Nov 18, 2007

I can hear you
You can even be the flying man but double exhaustion when flying so you can't fly all the time or like, you can't fly cos the jungle is too dense and above the canopy you can't see where you're going. There's a bunch of ways of going "hey, you can be the guy but not fly all the time" and just say instead of being weird about it.

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer

the_steve posted:



Didn't get much in the way of pictures, this is pretty much the best/only one.
Stig, and his second in the duel, Charlie of Clan Brujah.

This is amazing.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Kung Food posted:

And I'm going to be perfectly blunt, but the fact you decided to bring it up in group email instead of just person to person was a dick move on your part.
No it wasn't. If you're gonna make rules for the group you should be willing to answer any questions about those rules in front of the group, if for no other reason than having those questions answered once instead of four times. If your houserules can't stand up to public scrutiny, then your rules suck and you shouldn't be making them. It's not a "dick move" to ask someone something that will affect the entire group in front of the group.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Yawgmoth posted:

No it wasn't. If you're gonna make rules for the group you should be willing to answer any questions about those rules in front of the group, if for no other reason than having those questions answered once instead of four times. If your houserules can't stand up to public scrutiny, then your rules suck and you shouldn't be making them. It's not a "dick move" to ask someone something that will affect the entire group in front of the group.

I've done Forum and Post by Email games, and you always ask and answer questions in public, so everyone is on the same page and everything is transparent. You privately talk to players about *issues*, not rules (unless it's so bad it had to be publicly brought out - i.e: X is no longer allowed because they were being disruptive and creepy).

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Having a public index of your house rules and chargen and w/e is great because then players don't ask things more than once and you don't have to worry about forgetting poo poo

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Robindaybird posted:

I've done Forum and Post by Email games, and you always ask and answer questions in public, so everyone is on the same page and everything is transparent. You privately talk to players about *issues*, not rules (unless it's so bad it had to be publicly brought out - i.e: X is no longer allowed because they were being disruptive and creepy).

Perfectly reasonable, and I see the logic in it. Some DMs would prefer to handle it differently. Personally I would rather it stay private until both sides are happy then make a public update if the other players need it (Which for character creation they probably don't unless anyone else wanted to be birdman). My reason being is people can get really heated over nerd poo poo and if I can nip public drama in the bud then that's the action I'm taking. The dick move was making a DM choice for the DM by taking it public without asking him.

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

Higgledy-Piggledy Whale Statements



The GM doesn't have any special authority over social life, though. The choice is both of theirs how to handle this, and doing it in the open is not a bad call.

BabyFur Denny
Mar 18, 2003
Eh it sounds like there already was an existing private communication channel between the player and the DM regarding character creation and if the player then suddenly decided on his own to take things public I'd be annoyed too, as the DM in this scenario.

Foolster41
Aug 2, 2013

"It's a non-speaking role"
I had talked to the GM in session 0 in a group setting, and we had been communicating through a email group, so I thought it best to simply reply all my issues. There were ways we could have communicated 1-on-1 via Discord or mail, but i hadn't been doing so previously (I'd only chatting in a public channel on discord).

Maybe I could have just sent to the GM, but I guess I figured we had been talking on reply-all email, so I might as well voice my concern that way, because that was being done.

I don't really even care about flying, I liked more the ascetic idea of being a bird man. It's more the weird exhaustion rules for walking that bothered me.

JustJeff88
Jan 15, 2008

I AM
CONSISTENTLY
ANNOYING
...
JUST TERRIBLE


THIS BADGE OF SHAME IS WORTH 0.45 DOUBLE DRAGON ADVANCES

:dogout:
of SA-Mart forever

Foolster41 posted:

I don't really even care about flying, I liked more the ascetic idea of being a bird man. It's more the weird exhaustion rules for walking that bothered me.

The fact that he wants to apply them just to you really bothers me. I understand doing a jungle survival adventure where everyone has to track food and clean water and exhaustion and perhaps disease/rot, but I'm of a mind that he is punishing you and you alone for being a flyer. If I were you, and I'm not, but if I were I would ask him directly. I would counsel that you tell him that you like the idea of a birdman, but you realise that flying presents balance issues and are willing to play one that is "grounded" for one reason or another. However, in return you insist that exhaustion rules be either a uniform part of the campaign or not exist at all. If he persists, I daresay that this might not be the campaign for you.

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.
Rescue

quote:

We rest the night and by dawn things seem less grim for Snakeeyes. His wound remains serious but does not have the angry heat of infection, so we decide to press on to the docks and hunt for Vernon’s barge.

We travel though the crowd and commotion of the common market and up the riverfront until we get to the Krrf scattered docks of Barge End- the east end of the docks where we hunted down Theldrat in what seems like ages ado. The air smells of salt, fish, and tar.

As we walked through the unwashed throng, the cargo handlers, the krrf-rakers and sailors Snakeeyes spotted a man too fresh and too healthy to be a local. Having a learned wariness of strangers Snakeeyes walked straight up to the bald and tattooed Yaghannish man. He wore clothes from the northern empire, a steel breast plate and a huge no-dachi at his side. At his feet was a large sack. He stood gawking at the crowd and acknowledged Snakeeyes with a nod, a hand resting on the hilt of his great curved sword.

“Hello and well met my golden-eyed friend.”

“Hello. Who are you?” replied Snakeeyes.

“I am called Severence. I am new to the city and am trying to get my bearings.”

We were to eventually learn that Severence came from the northern settlement of Scavengers Port where he worked as an enforcer and caravan guard protecting shipments destined for Thalos under the protection of Prince Zeech, Chamberlain of Thalos. Apparently he violently guarded a shipment against a gang from the City of the Eagle Throne who made his continued existence in Scavenger’s Port difficult, so he hopped on a ship to Thalos with a vague notion of directly appealing to Prince Zeech for a job.

“So here I am,” he said in his heavily accented Oeridian, packing some krrf into a flat-bowled pipe and lighting it. “Do you know anyone hiring?”

“We are about to murder a wererat for attempting to spread plague and death in the City. Want to come along?” asks Snakeeyes.

“I suppose it’s best to be on the side of the murderers than the victims, eh?”

“Truer works have yet to be spoken,” I replied. And we were off.

Snakeeyes had a vague sense of this barge from his patrolling this area, though he thought it an uninhabited garbage scow. We walked the docks and piers and he spotted an ancient garbage scow bobbing in the black water of the River Celiant. Its deck groans under the weight of piles of refuse, the reek almost overwhelming even by Barge End standards. In the middle of the filth, a wooden shack rises like a mushroom. We climb the plank and make our way across the barge deck, stepping gingerly around and through piles of filth. On our way to the shack Snakeeyes finds the corpse of a Dwarf, whom we later learn from Weston to be Cabe, one of the missing ratcatchers.

We press on to across the scow to the pilot house and the three of us make a quick plan of attack. We approach the door to the pilot house and with a count of three Severence hauls open the door, I send a shock bolt through the open doorway at a low form on the ground and Snakeeyes leaps through into the gloom. As we press in behind him, I see the results of my handiwork: a giant cockroach lies on its back, legs twitching in its death throes. A short set of stairs descends down and Severance and I descend towards the sounds of a skirmish belowdecks. A dozen rats scurry along the floor of the crowded cabin. An flickering oil lamp hangs from the ceiling, shedding greasy gray light onto every surface. Piles of papers cover an old table, and sloping steps lead down to a room filled with crates and a hammock.

Snakeeyes has his katana out and is brandishing it two handed against a middle-aged man of square festures but with reddish fur covering his body, bloodshot eyes and strange clawlike hands. This is Vernon and in the middle of transformation.

“My blade has no effect on this thing,” Snakeeyes says as he casually blocks a rapier thrust from the rat/man. “Perhaps you can do something.”

I raise my hand and send a shock bolt into the wererat, spinning him around and forcing him to parry and recover. Severance steps back, draws a long thin knife and mutters something in a strange tongue. The knife flares with a pale light and he moves forward to engage the wererat.

I send another bolt into the wererat, striking him in his off-arm and it falls limply to his side and Severance’s knife flashes, drawing blood. Snakeeyes continues to attack, but his blows land with no effect. The wererat presses his attack, but eventually folds around a knife to the stomach by Severance.

“How did you manage to harm him, Severance?” asks Snakeeyes.

“I know a charm that puts a magical edge on a blade. I thought a creature like this one might be susceptible when I saw that your blade was not drawing blood.”

They discuss the fight and various moves as I go through the papers and books on the table and the various boxes. We find a magical silver shortsword, gold, actual gold, and silver pennies and copper bits as well as legal documents granting Vernon guild ownership, as well as guild reports and correspondence with Beila that details in depth the glory they'll receive in the coming empire of filth.

In two crates in the bottom of the hold we find two humans, near-dead. One is a skinny, malnourished youth named Ospar and the other is Mung’s friend Algie, who is unconscious. Ospar blinks wearily in the dim light and says, “I prayed to any god I knew to get me out of here and away from that monster. Hextor is the only one who responded. Thank you Hextor for delivering me.”

Foolster41
Aug 2, 2013

"It's a non-speaking role"

JustJeff88 posted:

The fact that he wants to apply them just to you really bothers me. I understand doing a jungle survival adventure where everyone has to track food and clean water and exhaustion and perhaps disease/rot, but I'm of a mind that he is punishing you and you alone for being a flyer. If I were you, and I'm not, but if I were I would ask him directly. I would counsel that you tell him that you like the idea of a birdman, but you realise that flying presents balance issues and are willing to play one that is "grounded" for one reason or another. However, in return you insist that exhaustion rules be either a uniform part of the campaign or not exist at all. If he persists, I daresay that this might not be the campaign for you.

Yeah, I emailed a follow up that i realized that flying could be broken, and offered a non-flying bird man. No response yet though.

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

Foolster41 posted:

Yeah, I emailed a follow up that i realized that flying could be broken, and offered a non-flying bird man. No response yet though.

I hope his name is Kiwi

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Agrikk posted:

I hope his name is Kiwi
Cassowary :black101:

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

Splicer posted:

Cassowary :black101:

:golfclap:

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Agrikk posted:

I hope his name is Kiwi


:parrot:

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
(Played the The Sword, The Crown and the Unspeakable Power yesterday.)


Weird things happen in the city of Varda, Armenia, in the year 400 BC. A crazy witch is sent as an envoy to the 10,000 strong Greek militia, who claims they just want to pass by. The king, not knowing this, sends merchants to tempt the Greeks, saying the city defense is weak.
Meanwhile, a magical revolutionary sneaks their way into the citadel.
The queen, using a tremendous amount of rumors, schemes and dark whispers, tries to profit out the situation. The Greeks should come in and trade, and no blood should be shed. She sends a witch to the greeks as a gift/sabotage.

A series of miscommunications and some darker than expected magic leaves the revolutionary wanted for murder. A bounty is set.

More chaos. The Witch returns but is arrested for idiocy & treason.
The Greeks seem to invade, throwing the city into panic. The revolutionary storm is the castle, only to be turned on for the reward. The king rides out and with a single slash knocks the revolutionary unconscious. Urged on by the queen, the king tramples the zealot to death. The crowd scatters, cheers and rushes the Royal guard… As the Greeks pass by, miles outside the city.

Later, the witch escapes the royal dungeon, steals the towns only turtle and flees to Greece. Future scholars claim this is another fictitious work of Herodotus.

Foolster41
Aug 2, 2013

"It's a non-speaking role"
So the GM mailed me back, apologizing for how they may have come off as rude.

He said I was the only one doing a variaent species and how my walk speed is 25 ft. (Which is the same speed as a small character like a gnome, so I don't know why that matters) and how I'd get dehydraded faster walking.

He said I said myself I'd be less fun to play as a birdman (actually, I said the tired out aspect sounded less fun for me, and arbitrary), and that's why he was frustrated. He said he gave me latitude to play the character and "shoved it in his face", doing something that I knew was foolish.

At this point, IDK if I want to actually play with this GM. I migoht go with the gnome illusionist conman, or just nope out.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Yeah that's not a great first impression. I would be concerned about flying at level 1, it's a little weird, and it's so easy to just tell you my concerns and let you be like, an ostrichman or a chickenman or whatever you imagine as a not flying birdman.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Yeah, this guy has issues. :/

PantsOptional
Dec 27, 2012

All I wanna do is make you bounce

Foolster41 posted:

So the GM mailed me back, apologizing for how they may have come off as rude.

He said I was the only one doing a variaent species and how my walk speed is 25 ft. (Which is the same speed as a small character like a gnome, so I don't know why that matters) and how I'd get dehydraded faster walking.

He said I said myself I'd be less fun to play as a birdman (actually, I said the tired out aspect sounded less fun for me, and arbitrary), and that's why he was frustrated. He said he gave me latitude to play the character and "shoved it in his face", doing something that I knew was foolish.

At this point, IDK if I want to actually play with this GM. I migoht go with the gnome illusionist conman, or just nope out.

:sever:

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Foolster41 posted:

So the GM mailed me back, apologizing for how they may have come off as rude.

He said I was the only one doing a variaent species and how my walk speed is 25 ft. (Which is the same speed as a small character like a gnome, so I don't know why that matters) and how I'd get dehydraded faster walking.

He said I said myself I'd be less fun to play as a birdman (actually, I said the tired out aspect sounded less fun for me, and arbitrary), and that's why he was frustrated. He said he gave me latitude to play the character and "shoved it in his face", doing something that I knew was foolish.

At this point, IDK if I want to actually play with this GM. I migoht go with the gnome illusionist conman, or just nope out.
So he half-apologizes for coming off as rude, doubles down on the dumb exhaustion rules because "muh realism", and then gets mad again over the same old poo poo, blaming you even harder for him being a dumbass.

Yeah, I'd cut this guy loose. It's pretty clear he's gonna lose his poo poo the very first time anyone comes up with a creative solution to anything that he didn't think of two weeks prior.

Foolster41
Aug 2, 2013

"It's a non-speaking role"
Yeah, it's a realism thing. He emailed me again and says Gnomes and Dwarves are terrestrial, and the game says Aaracokra spend most of their time in the air, so they'd be more tired walking, thus why the diffeernce.

He also made it sound like now it wouldn't be as big a deal as he made it sound before (saying something how it'd have little impact on the game, but if I roll poorly or forget to drink, like any character it'd be harder for me).

I think I'll give this group a chance, and see how thins go, but yeah I consider this a strike against the GM. But I think i"ll play it safe and not do a birdman, since they have all that going against them.

I was hoping to try to do a gnome illusionist with a "pull rabbit out of hat" type spell at the appropriate level (learning the ranger/druid spell "Conjure animals" and the GM said they'd allow it, I'd do a side-quest to learn it, rather than just have it (fair enough), but now I fear he's going to unessicerily difficult about that, so I might just go with human monk, maybe with a bird-like apparel theme. (Mask, tassels on arm_) )

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Foolster41 posted:

I might just go with human monk, maybe with a bird-like apparel theme. (Mask, tassels on arm_) )
Go full luchador if you go this route.

Foolster41
Aug 2, 2013

"It's a non-speaking role"
Yeah, I think luchadore is probibly what I had in mind for my character. Think sort of the pokemon Hawluche, but as a costume, and more the color/markings maybe of a Aaracockra.

Coward
Sep 10, 2009

I say we take off and surrender unconditionally from orbit.

It's the only way to be sure



.

Yawgmoth posted:

It's pretty clear he's gonna lose his poo poo the very first time anyone comes up with a creative solution to anything that he didn't think of two weeks prior.

This to me is the big reason to quietly exit, especially if your alternative is to play an illusionist conman.

e: playing "Mother, may I" with a GM who has their own arbitrary view on what is realistic outside of the rules is a death sentence for any sort of creative character concept.

Coward fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Apr 16, 2019

mcjomar
Jun 11, 2012

Grimey Drawer
Leaping back into thread, as someone currently going through 5e ToA (I'm on my second character - a Dwarf Totem Barbarian, my previous Dwarf War Cleric got thunderbolted to death at level 1 by a trap, woo), definitely sever.
My GM was straight up "yeah, I'm not allowing flying races" and I understood why off the bat, and he's a chill dude who is direct and to the point, no faffing about.

This guy increasingly sounds like an "It's not my fault, I'm sorry for possibly being rude (I totally wasn't) but you're a jerk-face meanie pants for daring to question my authority, and here's reasons why" sort of guy, with an added dose of "I'm going to gently caress with the background to make it seem more realistic for a given value of my own perception of realism" type bullshit (In a magical elfgame).


That said, if you're not going to sever, please post anything interesting that arises from this cat-piss in the making.
And make sure someone is bringing a cleric and/or a character with the Outlander background to remove the need for those food/water and survival checks and/or the exhaustion bullshit - although this guy sounds like the type to screw you over for thinking ahead anyway, so be prepared.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!
Apologies for the lack of Tanicus updates - I hit a mental and emotional rut/lull and just haven't been focused lately. No will to recap.

But! We're still playing, still wanting to strangle our DM after congratulating him, and after game this past Sunday I called up a good friend of mine to yell at him for decisions his PC made in a Tanicus campaign run FIFTEEN years prior...

And a few sessions ago, we fought this.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Is that a megalodon flayer?

A Single Sphink
Feb 10, 2004

COMICS CRIMINAL

I think it's the Reaper version of an aboleth.

raminasi
Jan 25, 2005

a last drink with no ice

Foolster41 posted:

if I roll poorly or forget to drink, like any character it'd be harder for me).

Wait hold on, if you forget to drink? Is this "If the party forgets to locate water" or "I am going to make you tell me every time your character drinks water and if you don't tell me I'm penalizing you because it didn't happen?"

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

raminasi posted:

Wait hold on, if you forget to drink? Is this "If the party forgets to locate water" or "I am going to make you tell me every time your character drinks water and if you don't tell me I'm penalizing you because it didn't happen?"

yeah, Seeeeever, that kind of busywork bookkeeping only exists for a DM to screw a player over, it's not fun.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
See this is why I love FATE style or other bennie based flaw systems. "Put Easily Dehydrated on your sheet" (later) "I will give you three hold to be too thirsty to fly for this fight"

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Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

raminasi posted:

Wait hold on, if you forget to drink? Is this "If the party forgets to locate water" or "I am going to make you tell me every time your character drinks water and if you don't tell me I'm penalizing you because it didn't happen?"
What does your heart tell you.

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