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Lightning Knight posted:Call of Duty: Ghosts is basically a paranoid right-wing fantasy about "what if Red Dawn but against super Venezuela," it is essentially Tom Clancy mixed with the Turner Diaries. It's also a 6 year old game and was widely panned as one of the worst ones. Well those games take about 2 years to make so VZ would have been doing pretty well at the time.
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Shaocaholica posted:Well those games take about 2 years to make so VZ would have been doing pretty well at the time. Things weren't good 8 years ago but they hadn't fallen apart yet. More to the point, outside of Venezuela the media wasn't really paying any attention to things getting worse so any news these game designers googled at the time would have been fluff pieces about how great things were. Hence the cyberpunk shiny glass city Venezuela.
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Lightning Knight posted:Call of Duty: Ghosts is basically a paranoid right-wing fantasy about "what if Red Dawn but against super Venezuela," it is essentially Tom Clancy mixed with the Turner Diaries. It's also a 6 year old game and was widely panned as one of the worst ones. I've played Ghosts, and claiming it has anything in common with the Turner poo poo is stretching things to their limit.
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Apr 14, 2019 19:22
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Inflation of the BSS started again, losing about a third of its value in the past two weeks (3000 BSS = $1SD April 1, 4400 BSS = $1USD April 14). This is after two months of unprecedented stability, with the BSS keeping a stable exchange rate from the beginning of February to the beginning of April. It's kind of odd that the power cuts and international recognition of Maduro etc. did not affect the exchange rate at all. Is it possible that the Venezuelan central bank has someone that is not insane at its head now, or what? Also kind of interesting the peanut gallery disappeared here. I guess they jumped into threads about protestors in Algeria and Sudan being paid CIA pawns overthrowing the wonderful benevolent socialism of Bouteflika and Bashir. Although it looks like a literal reanimated corpse like Algeria had as president is preferable to Maduro (although Omar al-Bashir is certainly still worse than Maduro by a lot, both economically and more importantly, socially.)
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Apr 14, 2019 21:13
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Has electricity come back again? ^^ I agree its a nice break from the usual. I look forward to good stories about the Red Cross helping people without aid being diverted. I also look forward to no more racism posted here.
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Saladman posted:Inflation of the BSS started again, losing about a third of its value in the past two weeks (3000 BSS = $1SD April 1, 4400 BSS = $1USD April 14). This is after two months of unprecedented stability, with the BSS keeping a stable exchange rate from the beginning of February to the beginning of April. Remember we're talking about the black market exchange rate and not the official one. As far as I can tell, the official exchange rate is still set at Bs 3,000 or somewhere around there, but of course, it's an imaginary rate since you can't exchange money freely. Rust Martialis posted:Has electricity come back again? It keeps going out sporadically all over the place but some areas are somewhat stable. My mother, for example, hasn't had many problems with electricity aside from the countrywide blackouts, but my brother lives in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and they literally spent weeks without power.
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Apr 14, 2019 22:11
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Rust Martialis posted:Has electricity come back again? My area (rural coast of the lake of Maracaibo) seems to be stabilizing today, before it was days of blackout, 3-4 hours with power, and days of blackout again.
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Apr 15, 2019 01:43
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:I've played Ghosts, and claiming it has anything in common with the Turner poo poo is stretching things to their limit. It's a game about heroic square jawed almost uniformly white male American soldiers standing in brave resistance to the vaguely defined foreign South American hordes, where they literally build doomsday weapons and a "Freedom Wall" and are somehow still the good guys. It is very much so far right RaHoWa propaganda, but again this is a Call of Duty game that is more than half a decade old and of little relevance to modern Venezuelan-American relations or politics.
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Apr 15, 2019 07:34
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It's so quiet here. Should I try to start a derail about the best arepas or something?
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Rust Martialis posted:It's so quiet here. Should I try to start a derail about the best arepas or something? It's much easier to find Chuck's posts when there aren't 5 pages of people establishing sides and then constantly calling the other side "pro-coup".
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Apr 15, 2019 21:36
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There’s a decent empanadas place by me. What kind of empanada do you guys think Maduro ate on TV?
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Apr 15, 2019 21:45
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https://twitter.com/John_Hudson/status/1117448785293189120
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Apr 15, 2019 22:12
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Sorry, this is where we discuss Venezuelan cuisine. Try the C-SPAM thread maybe?
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Apr 15, 2019 22:15
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Arepas filled with avocado, cheese and chicken taste great. Or with leftover caraotas at breakfast.
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Apr 15, 2019 23:00
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Blue Nation posted:Arepas filled with avocado, cheese and chicken taste great. Or with leftover caraotas at breakfast. Is there a particular kind of cheese?
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Apr 15, 2019 23:01
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Rust Martialis posted:Is there a particular kind of cheese? I've made them before with some homemade queso blanco, very tasty.
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Apr 16, 2019 03:09
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Rust Martialis posted:Is there a particular kind of cheese? small sample size but both venezuelan places i've eaten at recently have a particular salty white cheese that i now associate arepas with pompeo... bad???
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Just an FYI, you can brine and smoke your own homemade cheeses, and you should because it's pretty easy and delicious.
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Apr 16, 2019 03:24
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Saladman posted:
continued examination of the situation in Venezuela over the past few months kind of peaked and then cratered the interest and enthusiasm by anti-imperialists here and elsewhere. This thread has definitely had some astoundingly poor apologism for Maduro, but it ended up serving a purpose: watching your ideological allies speak over the lived experience of Venezuelans, ultimately in the service of defending an authoritarian kleptocrat ... kind of made some people take another look at what they were doing, and stop, or lose enough enthusiasm for it that it was time to find a new weird way to defend autocrats by ideological proxy.
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Apr 16, 2019 15:16
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The silence of the thread shows those who legitimately care and are interested about Venezuela, and those who just want to flex their muscles of on their commitment to Third World Maoism.
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punk rebel ecks posted:The silence of the thread shows those who legitimately care and are interested about Venezuela, and those who just want to flex their muscles of on their commitment to Third World Maoism. personally, i just can't bother to argue most thread posters anymore because writing an effort post just leads to people posting the same "read the op/thread" bullshit again. there's some extremely bad posters in this thread, and coming from me that's telling. Truga fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Apr 16, 2019 |
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Apr 16, 2019 16:17
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Given that one of the most consistent complaints in D&D is that this thread gets crowded with too many "tankie" voices wouldn't a lull in activity like this one be a great opportunity for you guys to showcase what a great thread this place would be without all the outside agitators coming in and ruining it? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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My apologies from going MIA for so long. It's hard to pay attention to the thread when I caught up in work. The news today is that humanitarian aid is finally flowing into the country under the supervision of the Red Cross. That's a huge development since it means desperately needed relief for the people who are suffering from the crisis the most. A few weeks ago when the head of the Red Cross announced the operation, he said that it there was enough aid to help as many as 650,000 people. Here's some pics/videos of the aid getting unloaded at the Simon Bolivar International Airport: https://twitter.com/mcobelaVV/status/1118173122568642560 https://twitter.com/ElPitazoTV/status/1118160645021736960 https://twitter.com/StePozzebon/status/1118152450043600897 https://twitter.com/hispanopost/status/1118142519517249538 You'll remember that for years and years Maduro denied that there was a humanitarian crisis in Venezuela. Minister of Foreign Affairs Jorge Arreaza denied the crisis on February 12 of this year, which is the latest denial that I could find. The way this worked is that admitting that there was a humanitarian crisis in Venezuela would be admitting that Maduro wasn't doing a good job as president and/or that the revolution had failed. and because there was no humanitarian crisis then there was no need for humanitarian aid. Also, my favourite arepa has: butter, cheese, avocado, and black beans. If you don't live in Venezuela, the closest cheese that I've found to the one we use down there in arepas is really dry feta.
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Is the avocado part warm or cooked? Or just raw filling?
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punk rebel ecks posted:The silence of the thread shows those who legitimately care and are interested about Venezuela, and those who just want to flex their muscles of on their commitment to Third World Maoism. There haven't been any new developments and people are probably just tired of having the same arguments over and over. I still check this thread when there are new posts as I am quite interested in the outcome. Incidentally this thread has generated an interested for me in Venezuelan cuisine and I will soon buy some of the special corn flour required to make arepas and give them a try.
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Thank god Maduro has finally started to get his ego in check and has started accepting larger quantities of aid.
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Discendo Vox posted:Any notion of how/through whom distribution will occur? I think you can buy avocados at grocery stores?
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Discendo Vox posted:Any notion of how/through whom distribution will occur? As far as I'm aware this is all being done 100% through the Red Cross. One of the conditions that the organization had on delivering aid to the country and distributing it was that it be allowed to do so without interference from both sides of the divide. Shaocaholica posted:Is the avocado part warm or cooked? Or just raw filling? The avocado is just raw. I wasn't aware that you could cook avocado! I guess you can fry it? But no, in the arepas it's just raw avocado.
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Rust Martialis posted:I think you can buy avocados at grocery stores?  I walked into that one.
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Chuck Boone posted:I wasn't aware that you could cook avocado! You can but its gross.
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Are they just flying in aid right now? I guess ships come next because that's more efficient?
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Shaocaholica posted:Are they just flying in aid right now? I guess ships come next because that's more efficient? Air transport is first because of raw speed, yes. Most of the aid will come via sea, but that's expensive on its own and takes time to charter ships. First week or 2 of an international relief operation is almost always air, predominantly.
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Hopefully none of the aid is in the form of guns and munitions, this time.
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Syenite posted:Hopefully none of the aid is in the form of guns and munitions, this time. That wasn’t actually a thing that happened.
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Discendo Vox posted:That wasn’t actually a thing that happened. Is there a snopes or something on that...? Edit: source https://www.nytimes.com/1987/08/17/world/abrams-denies-wrongdoing-in-shipping-arms-to-contras.html
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Syenite posted:Is there a snopes or something on that...? Ah I thought you were referring to lines from Maduro's state media (repeated in the thread) that aid trucks were full of guns and bombs. My apologies for the confusion. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Apr 16, 2019 |
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Discendo Vox posted:That wasn’t actually a thing that happened. except for the times that the US Special Envoy said "the purpose of our aid is to allow our supporters to use more violence," but c'mon, he's probably got it out of his system by now. it's so -mean- to hold people's past actions against them.
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Discendo Vox posted:Ah I thought you were referring to lines from Maduro's state media (repeated in the thread) that aid trucks were full of guns and bombs. My apologies for the confusion. They did in fact find METAL WIRE in those burned out trucks from this year. Who knows what they could have done with that wire!
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