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To be fair, going down swinging (thermonuclear devices like clubs) is how we expected this to go. We've done a lot of damage, let's just keep going. Shame about the Balkans, I hoped they'd be able to keep kicking, but France is going to be France. Also, I'm ok with that distribution of West Africa.
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I think we totally should attempt the diplomacy of pretty borders and transfer some of our southern African lands to Benin as to sweeten an alliance with them. Although they're probably looking at the map right now and thinking they can just join the Pact and control the straits instead
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The real MVPs of this hellworld are Bohemia and the Latin Empire's diplomatic corps.
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Cogliermo posted:How does the Andalusi navy compare to the Franks right now? I just have a feeling that the AI might be leaving Britain under garrisoned, and that's about a major portion of their core territory. If we focus the entire navy in the sea zones between Iberia and Britain at just the right time to launch naval invasions, then we'd probably make a few landings sure.
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HiHo ChiRho posted:I think we totally should attempt the diplomacy of pretty borders and transfer some of our southern African lands to Benin as to sweeten an alliance with them. I've added a decision where we can invite them into our faction, but they'll only really do it if the war's going well for us. So if things pick up in the next year or so, then it'll be a possibility.
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LJN92 posted:Any chance France will run out of steam? Because I'm pretty sure they can't just take all the casualties in the world. The only limiting factor on France really is manpower, they have cores on England and France areas which means depending on how high the AI sets conscription we will still end up needing 9-15 million men dead before they truly cannot continue the war, but only 4-6 millions before their conscription starts dramatically impacting their factories' production. <e. Also killing them isn't the only way to burn their manpower, occupying high population provinces also counts against how many of their people they can recruit.> Capitulating the Russian faction will allow them to annex the territory and end resistance so they will get however many hundreds of mil/civ/dockyard factories Russia had and they wont be blown up by partisans. The good news is the AI is very bad at choosing what to use factories on and will usually just leave ~70%+ of their production on basic infantry equipment and end up with surpluses of several hundred thousand of that. If Iberia has even 1/3rd to half of the military production (and the resources needed) it could focus on production of Mechanized, Medium/Modern tanks and Self Propelled Artillery, which can run around near-impervious to small arms fire bullying lovely infantry divisions out of the way with ease. Furthermore since all of France's cores are nearby and their fleet is in shambles we wouldnt need to push all the way to Moscow, just occupy France and England to capitulate them entirely. 420 Gank Mid fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Apr 15, 2019 |
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Apr 14, 2019 23:37
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Can't have a Paris Pact if there's no Paris. *taps garrote to neck*
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Can't have a Paris Pact if there's no Paris.
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Radio Free Europe is going to have to work overtime to keep spirits up. It'd be interesting to hear Kathryn Grayson sing "Iberian Union on the March." The Portuguese, the Basque, the Catalan, the Andalusi... there's lots of "free peoples" still around when you think about it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG2_4LfzHrQ
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Technically the war is going well for you, just it's also going very well for France. I think both of you have at least doubled your territory. The main questions are how well can France utilize its new territory, and how much will France's allies bother to throw into the European front of the war. I think there's a nonzero chance of Egypt just getting bored and going on some stupid adventure that screws up France's plans. Heck, Usturalya and Ibriz are technically doing better than they were at the start of the warm even if hard times are ahead. The only people doing badly right now are Russia and the already-capitulated nations.
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Like I said before, we killed Morocco, everything after that is just gravy. Sweet, thick, uranium-enriched gravy 
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New England signing up for the Paris Pact is stupid, but it’s understandable given this timeline’s history of liberals allying themselves with reactionaries in order to defeat the communists. It’s a huge shame that Russia couldn’t have done a better job of fighting off the French. I’m confused how they have so little manpower compared to Francia when they started off with roughly similar stats. They have taken far less casualties, and yet it looks like they are their knees while Francia is still going on their rampage with an even larger army than ours.
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Apr 15, 2019 00:39
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Aww, poor Eurasian Commonwealth. It seems like they probably ran out of troops, and didn't have time to refresh them.
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In hindsight, it was possibly a bad idea to focus on Africa instead of prioritizing the fight against the fascists. Of course, how could we have possibly known that Russia was going to fold so completely to the fascists like that? Anyways, gently caress Morocco, that poo poo was totally worth it as long as we don’t end up getting annexed/nuked.
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Snipee posted:New England signing up for the Paris Pact is stupid, but it’s understandable given this timeline’s history of liberals allying themselves with reactionaries in order to defeat the communists. They started warring a lot later than Francia, so the Franks had a lot more time to up their conscriptions laws, lower civ factors etc., which are all crucial in building up your army. Also, the whole nobles-seizing-power thing had a bunch of bad effects on the Russians as well.
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This is like the JRPG end boss Safer Sephiroth version of the Big Blue Blob, where a Fascist Frenchman has fused his torso to an anime starship or loving something. I believe in Comrade Mizanur 
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Snipee posted:It’s a huge shame that Russia couldn’t have done a better job of fighting off the French. I’m confused how they have so little manpower compared to Francia when they started off with roughly similar stats. They have taken far less casualties, and yet it looks like they are their knees while Francia is still going on their rampage with an even larger army than ours.
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Hashim posted:They started warring a lot later than Francia, so the Franks had a lot more time to up their conscriptions laws, lower civ factors etc., which are all crucial in building up your army. Also, the whole nobles-seizing-power thing had a bunch of bad effects on the Russians as well. Thanks for explaining! This also helps me make sense how the CSE was doing so exceptionally well. On a different note, hey Hashim, I think you are missing the faction map for the Imariz Iniatitive.
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Our ship may sink beneath the waves, but as it does, our middle fingers shall stand defiant to the end.
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Apr 15, 2019 01:55
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If the worst comes, I don't suppose we could pull a Taiwan by fleeing to our island territories and destroying any ship that comes near us?
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It's funny how all the constitutional monarchies keep allying with the fascist or hate communist so much they made their own faction.
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Snipee posted:Thanks for explaining! This also helps me make sense how the CSE was doing so exceptionally well. Crap, I'll try and get it tomorrow. But they're basically at war with everyone not on their own continent.
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Apr 15, 2019 03:13
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This is fantastic. Once we take Paris the Old World is essentially won.
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Yes, okay, good this seems alot more out speed.
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Morrow posted:This is fantastic. Once we take Paris the Old World is essentially won. Yeah the dream scenario is capitulating the French by taking Paris and doing a Sea Lion just a few days/weeks after they capitulate Russia. That way most of their troops are thousands of kilometers away and Iberia suddenly stretches from the Strait of Gibraltar to the Straight of Tartary, bing bong so simple.
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If we capitulate France we could make a dozen commie puppets out of the continent. The Fuhrer is Dead, and Europe Is Red, as it were
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Rodyle posted:If we capitulate France we could make a dozen commie puppets out of the continent. Let us point all our guns at the ghar-bi-ans~
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well at least the franks are going to have to occupy basically all of eurasia to get rid of their eastern front, + we've taken relatively light losses compared to other old world belligerents can really see benin choosing us at this point, they have an outside chance of becoming the sole major power in Africa and even taking the Straights
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V. Illych L. posted:well at least the franks are going to have to occupy basically all of eurasia to get rid of their eastern front, + we've taken relatively light losses compared to other old world belligerents If I were Benin and thinking realistically and not like I'm in a game. I'd get a peace deal with the Monarchies and just sit out the rest of the war.
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I can't tell if we're winning or losing and that worries me. 
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Randarkman posted:If I were Benin and thinking realistically and not like I'm in a game. I'd get a peace deal with the Monarchies and just sit out the rest of the war. yah possibly, but i'd also be leery of the prospects of being left alone by either the communists or the fascists at this point without making some commitments, and the Suez is a big prize
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Luhood posted:I can't tell if we're winning or losing and that worries me. unless hashim can deal a major knockout blow to the franks we are very definitely losing though now that they don't have a navy an invasion of Great Britain might be possible to pull of
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If we could get Benin on side it would be great, they can have literally all of the rest of Africa as far as I'm concerned. The ideology argument kind of went out of the window when New England joined the full fascist world domination team, apparently it doesn't matter as much as it should.
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Yeah, gently caress New England. This world has seen liberals sell out socialists to the reactionaries time and time again, so any socialist/communist has every right to be salty about it.
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Maybe it's just we are a totalitarian communist dictatorship controlled by TTL's equivalent of Beria and that's why no one wants to join our alliance?
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Admittedly, Ibriz probably didn’t help matters by issuing a proclamation blaming New England for the civil war and promising swift, brutal retribution against them.
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Morrow posted:Maybe it's just we are a totalitarian communist dictatorship controlled by TTL's equivalent of Beria and that's why no one wants to join our alliance? Now that you mention it, I've been having a hard time trying to get Ireland into our alliance, they're just not interested.
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eh new england joining the fash seems in keeping with their MO thus far, and at least means that once Ibriz gets crushed there's going to be a massive hellwar keeping both sides busy in Gharbia
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Hashim posted:Now that you mention it, I've been having a hard time trying to get Ireland into our alliance, they're just not interested. it's not as though joining us has worked out very well for them in the past, though, so it's hard to blame them imo
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