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So I'm bad at this game, and am still trying to win with the robot. When should I take another active over coolant leak? I'm not sure what else to ask i think mostly i need to stop getting hit.
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vorebane posted:So I'm bad at this game, and am still trying to win with the robot. When should I take another active over coolant leak? I'm not sure what else to ask i think mostly i need to stop getting hit. I don’t know how anyone even gets good at this game. I just died to the Gorgun on my last run 
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Apr 17, 2019 11:13
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On my new ps4 save I'm just missing the hunting quests for platinum and I'm not even at 30 deaths. I still suck at all phases of the rat but can usually squeeze out a win.
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Apr 17, 2019 11:25
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Dugong posted:I don’t know how anyone even gets good at this game. I just died to the Gorgun on my last run Oh dear.
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Apr 17, 2019 13:26
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Samovar posted:FINALLY beat the Lich as the Gunslinger. compared to the misery that was the initial release, the current version has so many gamebreaking item combinations that it puts binding of isaac to shame, especially if you can keep up with its (still kinda bullshit) never-get-hit mechanics polaris + metronome, don't mind if i do
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Apr 17, 2019 13:29
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Oxxidation posted:compared to the misery that was the initial release, the current version has so many gamebreaking item combinations that it puts binding of isaac to shame, especially if you can keep up with its (still kinda bullshit) never-get-hit mechanics I remember I almost lost a Lich run with remote bullets, gun crown and shadow clones because I was firing so many bullets I couldn't see the enemy rounds.
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Apr 17, 2019 13:34
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vorebane posted:So I'm bad at this game, and am still trying to win with the robot. When should I take another active over coolant leak? I'm not sure what else to ask i think mostly i need to stop getting hit. Many things are better than coolant leak. Gun friendship, any invulnerability item, lament configuration, big boy, bracket key, any item that lets you steal there is more but that's just off the top of my head.
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Apr 17, 2019 14:13
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At least keep coolant leak so you have a easy way to put out the fireplace without having to worry about accidentally shooting the nearby water barrel. After that you can chuck it for anything you want.
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Apr 17, 2019 14:28
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Dugong posted:I don’t know how anyone even gets good at this game. I just died to the Gorgun on my last run
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Apr 17, 2019 15:04
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vorebane posted:So I'm bad at this game, and am still trying to win with the robot. When should I take another active over coolant leak? I'm not sure what else to ask i think mostly i need to stop getting hit.
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Apr 17, 2019 15:05
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If you want a really easy robot run, scum the first floor until you get riddle of lead. Permanent 50% chance to negate damage since you have no hearts.
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Apr 17, 2019 15:08
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I don't know how many runs I have made, probably around 100, and I cannot reliably get past floor 3. I'm even still dying on floor one (though only to the boss). Turns out I wasn't capitalizing on blanks. Clicking in the sticks was never fast enough. Rebinding it to ZR has increased my ability to survive quite a lot.
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Apr 17, 2019 15:22
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I've gotten to where I never use blanks for anything except opening secrets and it's a bad habit overall
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Apr 17, 2019 17:12
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Is that 3rd floor room with the two 4-way lasers and the two bubs + two bulletkins that spawn after they die there 100% of the time? I don't notice any other rooms in the game being quite that identical (theres always a big zombie cave floor 4 but the layout can change).
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Apr 17, 2019 17:16
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No Wave posted:Is that 3rd floor room with the two 4-way lasers and the two bubs + two bulletkins that spawn after they die there 100% of the time? I don't notice any other rooms in the game being quite that identical (theres always a big zombie cave floor 4 but the layout can change). Yeah some rooms tend to always generate. You can really see it in the oubliette
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Apr 17, 2019 17:33
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No Wave posted:Is that 3rd floor room with the two 4-way lasers and the two bubs + two bulletkins that spawn after they die there 100% of the time? I don't notice any other rooms in the game being quite that identical (theres always a big zombie cave floor 4 but the layout can change). Pretty sure it is and I'm sick of it
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Apr 17, 2019 17:33
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Inzombiac posted:I don't know how many runs I have made, probably around 100, and I cannot reliably get past floor 3. I'm even still dying on floor one (though only to the boss). I always accidentally click the sticks in when poo poo hits the fan, so I had to rebind my blanks to R2, as well
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Apr 17, 2019 17:41
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Am I the only weirdo with fire on R2 and roll on L2, leaving L1 for map and L2 for item use?
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Apr 17, 2019 17:59
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I had to leave blanks on my shoulder button because I accidentally click the sticks too much so map is on the face buttons
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Apr 17, 2019 18:05
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Nevvy Z posted:Pretty sure it is and I'm sick of it
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Apr 17, 2019 18:05
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Chin Strap posted:Am I the only weirdo with fire on R2 and roll on L2, leaving L1 for map and L2 for item use? You'd be a weirdo if you put both fore and dodge on the same side. That would be lunacy.
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Apr 17, 2019 18:25
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Chin Strap posted:Am I the only weirdo with fire on R2 and roll on L2, leaving L1 for map and L2 for item use? Nope, on Switch I have a similar binding. ZR is shoot, ZL is roll, L is map, ... oh well I guess R is reload. I have B for active and stick-click for blank though I do keep randomly blanking in intense situations. Also killed my first two pasts this week finally, though in rainbow mode so it's a bit cheaty. But at least it still counts for unlocks - I got the Hollow shortcut in one shot. And I finally remembered to pick up Ox's arm, though I also intended to bring the TV there and lost it somewhere in floor 3 or 4 and I have no idea where. I've had this game since release on PC and got it again at release on Switch, though I put it down for a while shortly after release on PC because it was hard and not really what I was expecting it to be. Feels good to finally make some progress even if rainbow does count as cheating.
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Apr 17, 2019 18:34
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I can only reliably play with mouse and keyboard. Blank on middle mouse button, active item on space. I tend to keep blanks for bosses and secret rooms only unless poo poo really hits the fan. Bites me in the rear end sometimes.
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Apr 17, 2019 19:01
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My last run I had the Crown of Guns I think it might be my literal least favorite gun
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Apr 17, 2019 19:04
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precision posted:My last run I had the Crown of Guns That and the bullet that shoots guns are awful. The only thing of that nature I like is the gun throne since it farts out bullets on dodge. My last run I got the ticket that summons the Raven boss to fight for you. Made it all the way to floor 4. Of course I died by screwing up the timing and falling in a pit. I'm just not good at these types of games but I can't stop playing.
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Apr 17, 2019 19:09
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Ticket is pretty much auto lead god. Just let the bird tank all the shots and laugh your way to a master round.
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Apr 17, 2019 19:26
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I find that the bird's chain gun hitting the boss seems to lower the dps cap for some reason and on broken runs it takes longer to kill with the bird than without it. I actually don't appear to deal any extra damage to the boss vs letting the bird just solo it as long as the bird is there.
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Apr 17, 2019 19:35
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Lava Lamp Goddess posted:I can only reliably play with mouse and keyboard. Blank on middle mouse button, active item on space. Mouse is better for shooting but thats not the hard part of this game.
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Apr 17, 2019 19:37
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I played a few hundred hours on controller and now I switched to keyboard mouse, but I'll sometimes still use a controller depending on if I feel like having more precise movement at the expense of aim. Controller lets you move at slower speeds which is a huge plus and dodge roll a little more accurately, but the aim is not as good especially if you have like remote bullets. For people struggling maybe try controller, you get used to right stick aiming pretty quickly, and you will want to manually aim most of the time cause the auto aim is kind of garbage in how it targets, the benefit you get from moving more precisely may help you survive better. Off the top of my head keybinds on my 360 controller are L2 - Roll, R2 - fire, L1 - item, L2 map, X - Blank, Y- gun menu, B - interact, A and right stick press- reload, directional pad for item and gun cycling. Destro fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Apr 17, 2019 |
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Apr 17, 2019 20:25
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So that secret fireplace room on the first floor takes you to another floor with the special armor piece in it. I've managed to get that armor piece to the shrine in the following floor and taken the secret entrance there. Is it just an extra floor with the same boss every time? I've done it twice now and beat that boss once. Is there anything else special on that floor I'm missing? Cause otherwise it just seems like a harder path to take.
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Apr 17, 2019 20:42
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Holy gently caress they added back int he abyssal tentacle and black hole gun synergy, that poo poo is OP as hell
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Apr 17, 2019 20:46
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DarkAvenger211 posted:So that secret fireplace room on the first floor takes you to another floor with the special armor piece in it. I've managed to get that armor piece to the shrine in the following floor and taken the secret entrance there. Is it just an extra floor with the same boss every time? I've done it twice now and beat that boss once. Is there anything else special on that floor I'm missing? Cause otherwise it just seems like a harder path to take. It's always the same boss. The thing is, the Oubliette and the Abbey are "extra" levels, you do them to get extra chances at loot.
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Apr 17, 2019 20:46
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DarkAvenger211 posted:So that secret fireplace room on the first floor takes you to another floor with the special armor piece in it. I've managed to get that armor piece to the shrine in the following floor and taken the secret entrance there. Is it just an extra floor with the same boss every time? I've done it twice now and beat that boss once. Is there anything else special on that floor I'm missing? Cause otherwise it just seems like a harder path to take. Yeah that area kinda sucks and you're not missing anything. the boss is really difficult and it's definitely not worth doing in most playthroughs. Once you beat the Old King once and unlock the encyclopedia entry I don't think there's a real reason to go back?... I almost always do the Oubliette level because the goo boss is really easy and it's a quick way to gain at least 1 free weapon without taking any damage (hopefully).
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Apr 17, 2019 20:47
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It's actually an extra level entirely, you don't skip floor 3. For players of average skill (like myself) the route that most consistently makes you strongest is 1->oubliette (fireplace floor)->2->3->4->5. Very skilled players will consistently get stronger going through the abbey as they'll get more out of the items they find then they'll lose from getting hit. There are two other secret floors, not sure if you want to be spoiled about those. One of them is super hard but makes your run broken OP if you beat it, the other isnt very hard but is only ever likely to make you stronger on rainbow runs.
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Apr 17, 2019 20:47
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precision posted:My last run I had the Crown of Guns The crown of guns can be really good, depending on what other items you have. Even the Robot's standard passive item, the battery bullets, makes it much, much better because the bullets actually concentrate to where you're shooting. It can melt bosses down and clear rooms very quickly. Remote Bullets also makes it good.
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Apr 17, 2019 21:07
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Ah alright, thanks! I actually wouldn't mind knowing about the other secret floors. I've killed all the pasts of the main 4 characters and I know there's bullet hell. So I'm sure I've missed other secrets that I wouldn't mind hitting before I eventually beat the Lich.
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Apr 17, 2019 21:10
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Polo-Rican posted:Yeah that area kinda sucks and you're not missing anything. the boss is really difficult and it's definitely not worth doing in most playthroughs. Once you beat the Old King once and unlock the encyclopedia entry I don't think there's a real reason to go back?... If I'm just going for a Dragun / past kill run, I'll usually skip the secret floors, but if I want to take out the Rat or do for a Lich run, I almost always will do Oubliette and the Abby. Old King is a really tough fight at first, particularly because of his high HP, but like anything with this game, as you learn the patterns and get better at the mechanics, the fight becomes easier. The resources you accumulate from the extra floors pays off in Bullet Hell. Rather than limp into the Lich fight with no ammo, getting 4+ extra chests from the first two floors plus a bunch of extra money should put you in good shape. Killing the Rat almost always becomes an auto Lich win, because you get so much good poo poo, and all of his rat chest items are OP as gently caress. But the rat fight is really hard if you don't have some decent items, and his key is so expensive you generally need to get some extra cash if you can't steal it. On another note...did Mine Flayer get nerfed in the recent patch? I didn't remember his arena having pillars you can get behind for cover. Some of his bullet patterns were tricky to time and dodge, but you can just kind of camp behind the pillar and not worry about getting hit because he doesn't move around much.
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Apr 17, 2019 21:17
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The mine flayer pillars are random like the gatling gun arena and have been around for a while. They sure make the fight easy.
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Apr 17, 2019 21:19
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I really wish there were more bullet modifiers and fewer overall guns. It's a blast to have bouncing shock bullets, not so great to get the sawn off again and again.
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Apr 17, 2019 21:23
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Inzombiac posted:I really wish there were more bullet modifiers and fewer overall guns. Keep grinding those credits and unlocking guns!
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