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2DEG posted:Cross post from the pregnancy thread, AAP urges recall of Fisher Price rock n plays. zonohedron posted:The Consumer Reports report has a picture, in case anyone wasn't sure if they had one or not. Fuckkkkkkkkkkk that's how we got our daughter to sleep when she was an infant and we're thinking about starting #2 soon. Welp edit: gently caress new page adding quotes for context
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DaveSauce posted:Fuckkkkkkkkkkk that's how we got our daughter to sleep when she was an infant and we're thinking about starting #2 soon. Both our kids slept in one. It was the only thing they would sleep in.
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The issue with that is that parents tend to leave children in them for too long, without using the 3 point harness, and past the age when it is safe. If you don't follow the safety instructions given for a product and it results in injury or death, it isn't the product's fault. We used one as well until little man was maybe 4 months old and started trying to roll over, then we put it away.
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:The issue with that is that parents tend to leave children in them for too long, without using the 3 point harness, and past the age when it is safe. If you don't follow the safety instructions given for a product and it results in injury or death, it isn't the product's fault. We used one as well until little man was maybe 4 months old and started trying to roll over, then we put it away. It isn't just that parents are using it past the time kids roll over. Just having an infant sleep with their head in an elevated position increases the chances of accidental strangulation according to the American Association of Pediatrics. Naturally, Fischer-Price took steps to remedy the situation by https://www.consumerreports.org/recalls/fisher-price-rock-n-play-sleeper-should-be-recalled-consumer-reports-says/ Full disclosure: We also had the Rock n' Play and our kid is very much alive. But I did text the person we gave our bassinet to warn them of this. GamingHyena fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Apr 10, 2019 |
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I think what it comes down to is that the US really needs Finnish baby boxes.
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I dunno, this kind of encapsulates a lot of my issues with infant and child safety I obviously can't say with a straight face that 32 infant deaths is a small number - any infant death is tragic. But it's over the course of 10 years and most of the deaths were due to misuse or an existing medical issue. It's a device that millions of parents own and use Letting your kiddo nap in a car seat is a risk. Not sterilizing binkies on a daily basis is a risk. Parenthood is nothing but calculated risks. 22,000 infants died in 2017, and on average 3 of them were due to the Rock N Play. That comes out to 0.015%. Is the risk really outweighing the benefits so much that a recall is needed?
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Alterian posted:I think what it comes down to is that the US really needs Finnish baby boxes. Until some baby dies gnawing cardboard I guess.
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WarpDogs posted:Letting your kiddo nap in a car seat is a risk. There were a couple months where the only place mine would nap was in his car seat. To the point where we brought the car seat inside and set it down in his bed. quote:Not sterilizing binkies on a daily basis is a risk. Does dipping it whiskey while he is teething count? this is a joke and I did not actually do this
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I just think it's a bit silly that a couple dozen child deaths over a decade due in large part to misuse of a product is enough for people to panic and demand recalls in a country where children get murdered in school with disturbing regularity, and nothing gets done about that.
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:I just think it's a bit silly that a couple dozen child deaths over a decade due in large part to misuse of a product is enough for people to panic and demand recalls in a country where children get murdered in school with disturbing regularity, and nothing gets done about that.  It’s precisely because we can’t* do anything about one that we  over the other.
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Hoping someone can help me with this problem because it’s driving me crazy. My son is 2.5 and has always had problems eating. He’s tried a large variety of foods and like any toddler some days he likes one thing and the next he absolutely refused to eat, but we’ve always managed to get something in him. The past few days he has had full-on tantrums at every meal and snack time, sometimes lasting as long as half an hour after we’ve taken him away from the table. He also has cerebral palsy which has resulted in a speech delay, so while he can sign a few dozen words he can’t articulate why he’s getting so upset and we haven’t been able to figure it out. His molars came in a few months ago so I don’t think it’s an issue with his teeth. His therapists believe he may have sensory issues but he has never thrown tantrums so consistently and eaten so little as he has the past few days. I’ve tried researching online but most sites don’t cover our particular situation with regards to picky/no eating. Has anyone else dealt with this? Is it time to call his pediatrician? It’s been almost nonstop crying the past three days and between him and our four month old in the midst of a sleep regression I am seriously starting to lose it.
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Around that age my daughter realized she didn't have to eat what I was serving her and that other food still existed in the house. Honestly, I am pretty sure she survived mostly off of spite and goldfish for over a year.
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ElScorcho posted:Hoping someone can help me with this problem because it’s driving me crazy. My son is 2.5 and has always had problems eating. He’s tried a large variety of foods and like any toddler some days he likes one thing and the next he absolutely refused to eat, but we’ve always managed to get something in him. The past few days he has had full-on tantrums at every meal and snack time, sometimes lasting as long as half an hour after we’ve taken him away from the table. My wife is a speech-language pathologist who works with pediatric patients with CP/severe multiple disabilities. I asked for her input (hopefully this isn't account sharing): Sorry to hear you're going through such a difficult time -- feeding/sensory flare ups are so frustrating and so disruptive when they happen, so props to you for all the work you've put in so far to figure this out. To answer your main question, YES! Absolutely consult your pediatrician about this -- at the very least, they will be able to rule out any underlying issues (GI issues, allergies, etc) or refer you to specialists who can help if necessary. It's highly unlikely that that's what the cause is but it's worth checking just to be safe. Without knowing more about your little guy's medical history it's hard for me to pinpoint exactly what's going on, but here are the questions that I would ask myself looking at this case: -- Has this child ever had any prior sensory issues -- specifically, oral sensory issues -- that have interfered with eating before? If not, it would surprise me if he suddenly developed them, and I would look elsewhere for causes. If so, what are they and how have they been dealt with in the past? -- What is the etiology of his speech delay? Is it cognitive, or due to oral motor impairment? Does the oral motor impairment also impede his feeding/swallowing? --When the tantruming happens, how is it handled? Are there any specific de-escalation routines that you have in place? If not, there are pre-existing strategies that can help de-escalate the situation so even if your son is having food avoidance issues, at the very least you won't have as much disruption in your home. I suggest looking in to these! Your OT might be able to provide you with a sensory routine to help. -- What AAC system do you use, if any, and how might it be adapted to help with this issue? Your son is signing, but does he also use a system such as Proloquo2Go or TinyTap where he could indicate a wider variety of preference? Talk to your SLP about this. I would then go from there in pinpointing the issue. It sounds like you do have a team of therapists available to you. Are they specifically trained in feeding/swallowing/oral sensory issues? Many speech therapists are technically qualified to deal with these things but have little to no actual training or experience with it as it's kind of a specialty area. Keep in mind that many, many kids have issues with picky eating and pretty much no 2.5 year old can reliably answer questions about their inner feelings, they just don't have the cognitive ability for introspection yet. Not to negate your experience as a parent of a kid with CP, but just to normalize what you're going through a little bit. Beyond this general info, I can't really engage in the particulars of your son's case (ethics) but I would encourage you to use this info to engage with your existing providers. I hope it helps! Keep on fighting the good fight, you sound like a wonderful parent and it's great that you're so committed to figuring out what's up with your little guy. Best of luck!
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Thank you so much for all of that information! It's definitely something I'll be bringing up with his OT and SLP as both are working with him on his sensory and feeding/swallowing issues. As far as good news, as of last night he has been eating like crazy. I'm thinking his issue may have been related to constipation since he went a few days in between dirty diapers and then pooped twice today and he has been having hard poops. We're going to work on getting more water into him - he loves his milk and if he has the option he'll always choose it over water. We weren't too concerned since he's pretty skinny and we just wanted him to get in as many calories as he could, but if it's going to cause these types of issues we are going to have to get out of that mindset.
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I'm looking for advice to get our soon six month old boy to nap in any other places than our arms. He's hit 7 kg, so it's hell on our arms having to carry him around all the time. We'd like to get him to sleep in his stroller, pram, crib, anything that takes a load off of us, so we can relax for just a half hour. The problem is, that if we put him down in one of these, even if he's obviously tired, he'll cry until he cramps up and stops breathing, or until he throws up. I've got some easter vacation days coming up, so we'd like to spend them giving a good shot at sleep training him, but we really don't know where to start. We try following a schedule for the day, but his bad naps screw with his night sleep, so that screws with his naps, but we try.
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Boz0r posted:I'm looking for advice to get our soon six month old boy to nap in any other places than our arms. He's hit 7 kg, so it's hell on our arms having to carry him around all the time. Have you tried Merlin’s Magic Sleep Suit or Nested Bean yet?
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Sarah posted:Have you tried Merlin’s Magic Sleep Suit or Nested Bean yet? Are they swaddles? We've tried swaddling him, but he hates having his arms constricted.
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Boz0r posted:Are they swaddles? We've tried swaddling him, but he hates having his arms constricted. No, they are not swaddles. If rolling is started to happen or happened, the magic suit isn’t a good fit. But nested bean is fine for rollers: https://www.nestedbean.com/products/zen-sack-classic We’ve used it every night since 3.5 months. They have a no questions asked return policy if it doesn’t work. Basically the little weight mimics touch and helps soothe babies to sleep. Unfortunately we can’t use it for naps without jumping through a lot of hoops with the daycare so she’s a ridiculously lovely napper (1 to 3 naps a day usually no more than 15 minutes during the week) but an excellent night sleeper (bed at 7 pm, maybe one wake up at around 4:30 am for a snack then back to bed until 7 am). Some things that come to mind when you say the baby won’t sleep unless held: Temperature...Maybe likes to be super warm and setting down = warmth gone? Scent... at 6 weeks old when my husband went back to work our daughter would rage at 7 pm when he was gone. She wouldn’t sleep at all because she was used to the routine of him taking her at night. I would wrap her in the T-shirt he slept in that day to calm her down and she would finally nap. Maybe try something similar like having a used shirt nearby the head of the crib/bed in a safe place. Clothing... Are you changing into the same pajamas as part of a bedtime routine? Try different types of clothing and check tags/seams to see if any is agitating. It may be something that is super annoying alone but tolerable when being held and comforted. Noise... we always have a fan running in the bedroom for noise. Our cats are loud mouths! Having a large fan on low cuts down their hallway screaming getting to her and waking her up. Also when we lay her down we turn this on for her: https://infantino.com/products/2-in-1-musical-soother-night-light-projector as a nice little distraction for me to leave the room. It auto shuts off after 20 minutes. She will sleep through anything held but the tiniest noises wake her up when she’s in her crib. And distractions ... I have a little toy elephant she likes that I hand to her. She takes it and holds it up and stares at it and talks to it (as much as a 6 month old can) and after a few minutes when I know she’s asleep I come back in and take it out of the crib. It’s a toy that’s only given at bedtime and in bed. An extra bedtime signal I guess? I stumbled upon that idea when she was not happy about being laid down when she was sick and just handed it to her as a distraction and it stuck.
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The magic Merlin is good for rollers actually, it makes them feel swaddled and secure without swaddling them. We have three and used them to transition out of swaddle in those months.
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The magic Merlin saved my life. However it’s getting warmer now so I’m not sure how much longer we can use it for. It’s the cotton version so it’s as light as we can get.
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life is killing me posted:The magic Merlin is good for rollers actually, it makes them feel swaddled and secure without swaddling them. We have three and used them to transition out of swaddle in those months. Their website says when babies show signs of movement they should transition out of it, so I was going off of that information.
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Sarah posted:No, they are not swaddles. If rolling is started to happen or happened, the magic suit isn’t a good fit. But nested bean is fine for rollers: He's been an alright night sleeper until a couple of weeks ago. He eats most of his food at night, so he usually wakes for two bottles at night, but lately he's begun waking more often, without being hungry, wanting to be rocked to sleep. We have a Snooz white noise machine going all night. We also try getting him to sleep with a security blanket to associate that with sleep. He has a couple of different pajamas that we cycle through when they get too dirty, and I think they're comfortable enough. His crib is next to our bed, I don't know if that makes a huge difference. And my girlfriend isn't comfortable with him sleeping in his own room yet, especially with the noise going all night, potentially drowning out his cries. I'm usually home from work around 16:30, so it's probably not the scent thing. I'll look into those weighted sleeping suits. I don't know which kinds I can get here in Denmark. But it seems like the issue is, that he wants to get rocked to sleep. Boz0r fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Apr 15, 2019 |
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Tagichatn posted:So my parents were babysitting their grand nephew(?) and after he pooped, he got on all fours and stuck his butt in the air to be wiped. Apparently his daycare taught him that but it just sounds weird to me. Has anyone ever seen that wiping method before? They taught my son that. We ask him to do the ostrich and he basically goes in a downward dog. It’s amazing
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Boz0r posted:He's been an alright night sleeper until a couple of weeks ago. He eats most of his food at night, so he usually wakes for two bottles at night, but lately he's begun waking more often, without being hungry, wanting to be rocked to sleep. Crib next to bed may make a difference, at some point your rolling over, coughing, snoring, waking up to use bathroom, etc, may wake him up. It did with our son. It's possible to keep enough food in the fella that he COULD sleep through the night barring other things, unless he's just a bottomless pit of food intake. We started trying more food and stuff (pouches, Gerber, etc) to see if it would keep his stomach filled longer and at first it didn't, then for awhile he was sleeping through the night, maybe two months straight. Then he stopped, and we still aren't sure why. Not sure about security blanket or what that means to you, but health associations here in the US recommend no blankets or any objects whatsoever in crib with baby until 12mo. I can say that with white noise at a pretty high volume in our son's room, we can still hear him cry over that easily. But, it may not be the same because babies seem to cry at different volumes, and the camera/mic distance from baby and crib can play into it. The camera and mic in our son's room is positioned on wall above crib looking diagonally down into it, and the white noise is pretty near the crib as well, so the camera hears both white noise and crib pretty well--the white noise specifically I can hear in our bedroom over the monitor, and the sound amplifies when loud sounds are detected, like screaming baby. So it may at least be worth doing a trial "baby sleeps in his own room" night if your GF will agree to it, just to try and see if you'd hear him cry. But, I get your GF's sentiment! We were deathly afraid we wouldn't be able to hear our boy cry over the white noise or that we would be so tired we wouldn't wake up, but we did hear him and we did wake up (especially Mom, who, like most/ALL moms, seems to change sleep patterns and sleep lighter because hormones related to pushing kid out of vagina and the biological imperative to protect and keep child alive etc). If you can get Amazon in Denmark, you should be able to get those sleep suits, Sarah said one thing and I said another about them, but it doesn't really matter which one of us is right, check out their website if you didn't already (I haven't looked, Sarah is probably right, I just know the Magic Merlin worked for us and our kiddo still sleeps in them on cooler nights) and see if it's something you can see working. Otherwise, we also use nested bean and are transitioning our 11mo into nested bean some nights and no sleep suit or sack at all other nights just so he gets used to it. Nested bean is good, your kiddo is probably young enough he doesn't fight being put on his back to be zipped into a sack or suit, like ours does (violently). It feels like a blanket and reminds them of swaddle but their arms are free and they can move around at night if they need to, which for some kids is necessary as they naturally move into other sleep positions to find the most comfortable one. Also if no one has mentioned this and if you're not doing this already, make sure temperature is constant and level wherever he's sleeping, don't want him too hot or too cold especially at 6mo. Pajamas and sleep suits can play into this so of course just choose the most appropriate jammies and sleep apparatus for your kid's temperature preference I guess. Good luck! Sleep is the hardest thing we've dealt with, having a kid. It's just hard to get a handle on it (for us it is anyway) and when sleep training you never know if it's actually working or not. We didn't do it--we stopped trying to sleep when he started sleeping through the night, figuring we didn't need to do it because yay we could get a full night's sleep, and sleep training didn't seem like it was working anyway. I don't feel any of our attempts at sleep training led to sleeping through the night, he just started doing it out of nowhere. Then stopped out of nowhere. Then we wished we'd had more discipline in sleep training, because now it's a drat fight with him being older and smarter, and we're forced to make him cry it out some nights because he does everything he can to stay awake no matter how tired he is, and is nearly impossible to get him down to his crib even from a dead sleep without immediate wakeup and screaming that we're not holding him anymore. It's our fault, really. We don't want him to cry it out, but now he kinda needs to so he can learn to fall asleep on his own, and we've read that babies who can fall asleep on their own need less help at night and have fewer wakeups. He eventually does fall asleep, and each night there's less and less crying, and more of him just shifting around after standing at the edge of his crib, sitting down and then basically inwardly shrugging figuring we aren't rushing in this time and it's on him. Moral of the story? At least try and stick with sleep training early on, or it'll be Cry It Out City later on, something at least one of you will hate and have a hard time not going in there to comfort the poor fella. Wall of text, I know.
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Our smooth sailing of sleep is almost over... we bought a house and I’ve been working on it during the weekends and she would not take a nap in her new room. She isn’t a good napper to begin with, but she fought it hard. I had to sit and hold her hand while she cried for about 15 minutes. That’s totally not like her at all.  I ended up changing her dry diaper, clothes, and moving the pack n play and she finally fell asleep holding my finger. Moving is going to suck.
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Apr 15, 2019 19:23
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Awesome-we’re moving from Boston to Virginia at the end of May.
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Boz0r posted:I'm looking for advice to get our soon six month old boy to nap in any other places than our arms. He's hit 7 kg, so it's hell on our arms having to carry him around all the time. There are schedules online but what worked for us was to time the crying. If he's fed and changed, mum and dad are in the room or periodically responding, he has everything he needs. As parents we were breaking because it felt like an eternity listening to a screaming baby, but once we started keeping track we realised we would have been in there and rescuing him after like 5 minutes or not even! After we started timing it, we had two hard sessions where he took 20~ minutes of just absolute unholy screaming, coughing, dry heaving before he went to sleep. Gradually this time decreased over the course of a week. Now, as long as he's fed and tired, he follows a very set routine of boob bottle bed. When he is a screaming fit now, it's because we hosed up somewhere and he's overtired - however, unlike before, we can now repeat the routine anyway and he will always be asleep by the end and in his bed. I've posted this a couple of times but seriously, all the advice we got in real life and online was to pick them up, don't let them scream, it's no good for them etc. Maybe the other methods (and believe me, we tried everything) work for some but for us it didn't. Sleep training was the last resort and it absolutely worked. The other night he woke up around 4:30, and my wife went in to feed him, but he started whinging after coming off the boob. She fussed with him (as I would have done) rocking, bouncing, etc, and he looked like he was wide awake, so she put him in his bed and came back to our bed lamenting how he wasn't going to sleep. After maybe 20 seconds we realised we were talking in silence - he actually wanted to be put down! he still only sleeps for 2-3 hour stretches at night and 30 minutes in the day but it feels manageable - the first 4 months were like living in a nightmare.
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So our little (11mo) fella has been congested for over a month now, two doctor visits for that very thing in the middle of that. The first time, he had RSV and this second time he had strep, and we only found this out because I decided to call the triage nurse because of his congestion and they wanted me to bring him in, though I'm still not sure what made them test for strep (they tested him before even seeing his throat). Every morning he wakes up and there is literally wet and dry snot all over his face, and he's been throwing up his morning bottle as well though does fine at daycare and at home during the day with bottles. Oh, and diarrhea in the morning too, but we are pretty sure that's because of the ABs. Doc had said he's old enough for claritin, gave him AB for strep, and said we could give him benadryl at night and mucinex 3x a day, the latter two being special exceptions because they're not normally supposed to be given to infants, and she said give him very low doses. None of these have improved his congestion, so what we were hoping would work now seems overkill if it's not working, especially considering it's not normally supposed to be administered to infants. So I'm thinking we stick to the AB right now, but until then my wife called the doc and we will see what she wants to do. He also gave me strep and the same day I got a massive cold after a week of being home with him through strep and nearly losing my mind over that. Is it wrong that I'm questioning the doc's decisions at this point? I feel like she's missing something here and I am no longer as sure it's safe to give him mucinex and benadryl even at low doses--we are over-medicating him and it's not helping him. He is totally fine during the day but I'm still pretty worried. He eats food just fine and normally eats ALL his food at daycare, and at home he will only eat if we aren't watching him making sure he's eating. We hosed up with the AB because they were supposed to be refrigerated, and when I picked it up from pharmacy we both forgot to put it in fridge. So we had to get them to call the doc and have it sent to pharm again, only they sent it to our old pharmacy. Part of what makes me question the doc is that, the original ABs we forgot to put in fridge said 3ml dose on the bottle, and the new ABs we got at the other pharmacy said 5ml. I've been giving him the lower dose out of caution, but I'm not sure if that's a pharmacy fuckup or a doctor fuckup. abigserve posted:There are schedules online but what worked for us was to time the crying. If he's fed and changed, mum and dad are in the room or periodically responding, he has everything he needs. As parents we were breaking because it felt like an eternity listening to a screaming baby, but once we started keeping track we realised we would have been in there and rescuing him after like 5 minutes or not even! We've been through almost the exact thing. We used to hate listening to him cry and fight the urge to go in and rock him, but it ended up being only five minutes before one of us threw up our hands and went in. The longer this goes on the less reluctant we are to let him cry it out because he gives us so much poo poo at bedtime and naps now where he didn't used to. He slept through the night for awhile, stopped, and it has gotten worse since, to the point where I'm like, dude is 11 months old, we shouldn't be having these problems because he's already demonstrated he knows how to put himself back to sleep and knows how to sleep through the night. It's been hell in the middle of the night, and I have to take melatonin just to get any chance of deep sleep, only for him to wake up before or as soon as I fall asleep. He's even been doing the wide awake thing like yours, especially during naps where he will have this passive civil disobedience thing going on where he will rub his eyes but when we rock him he just lay in our arms blinking and looking around his room, getting mad when we block his eyes from seeing his toys (I think seeing his toys distracts him from falling asleep) and will close his eyes multiple times only to open them again each time. I don't even know how he manages this, I wish I could fight sleep that easily. Only difference is ours literally wants to be held, he's not fighting it to let us know he wants to be put down. At bedtime it's been slightly easier because he has a harder time keeping his eyes open. Moral is, some kids apparently just learn this sleep thing and do it, other kids gotta learn the hard way. A couple months ago I was an advocate of rocking if he needed it, but it's becoming more and more clear that he's figured out if he just cries long enough, one of us will eventually come in and rescue him and give him what he wants. Each night has yielded progressively less crying and more writhing around at least seeming like he is trying to find a way to go to sleep, so far we think it's working. Nothing else has, so this is the hail mary.
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Boz0r posted:We also try getting him to sleep with a security blanket to associate that with sleep. I would still keep his bed in your room, unless you know for sure he's being woken up by noises you make. In my experience, babies that wake up at night do it for internal reasons, not external ones... Him being able to hear you breathing and snoring might just as well act as a comforting factor. Swedish doctors recommend babies to sleep in the parents' room until at least 12 months old, since evidence suggests it lowers the risk of SIDS. Speaking of which, about the security blanket, are you making sure it is staying away from his face? Loose fabrics is a contributing risk factor for SIDS. (You probably know all about this, but I have to ask.) Tell us more about the problem situations. Sounds like the problem is mostly with his naps during daytime? He falls asleep OK at bedtime? Are you feeding him just before putting him down for naps? Burping? Pacifier? Boz0r posted:He eats most of his food at night, so he usually wakes for two bottles at night, but lately he's begun waking more often, without being hungry, wanting to be rocked to sleep. Hippie Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Apr 16, 2019 |
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Quick question: best hearing a protection for a 4.5 year old at a concert? We're taking her to her first concert at an outdoor venue.
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life is killing me posted:Crib next to bed may make a difference, at some point your rolling over, coughing, snoring, waking up to use bathroom, etc, may wake him up. It did with our son. He's never been good at eating in the day. He probably eats less in a whole day that he chugs in two bottles at night, beside the porridge and mashed vegetables. The security blanket something like this, but when he's asleep and we lay him down, we take it away from him again. life is killing me posted:I can say that with white noise at a pretty high volume in our son's room, we can still hear him cry over that easily. But, it may not be the same because babies seem to cry at different volumes, and the camera/mic distance from baby and crib can play into it. The camera and mic in our son's room is positioned on wall above crib looking diagonally down into it, and the white noise is pretty near the crib as well, so the camera hears both white noise and crib pretty well--the white noise specifically I can hear in our bedroom over the monitor, and the sound amplifies when loud sounds are detected, like screaming baby. So it may at least be worth doing a trial "baby sleeps in his own room" night if your GF will agree to it, just to try and see if you'd hear him cry. But, I get your GF's sentiment! We were deathly afraid we wouldn't be able to hear our boy cry over the white noise or that we would be so tired we wouldn't wake up, but we did hear him and we did wake up (especially Mom, who, like most/ALL moms, seems to change sleep patterns and sleep lighter because hormones related to pushing kid out of vagina and the biological imperative to protect and keep child alive etc). I sometimes sit in an adjoining room in the evening, and even with headphones on I can still hear him when he cries, so I leave it up to my GF when she's okay with it. life is killing me posted:If you can get Amazon in Denmark, you should be able to get those sleep suits, Sarah said one thing and I said another about them, but it doesn't really matter which one of us is right, check out their website if you didn't already (I haven't looked, Sarah is probably right, I just know the Magic Merlin worked for us and our kiddo still sleeps in them on cooler nights) and see if it's something you can see working. Otherwise, we also use nested bean and are transitioning our 11mo into nested bean some nights and no sleep suit or sack at all other nights just so he gets used to it. Nested bean is good, your kiddo is probably young enough he doesn't fight being put on his back to be zipped into a sack or suit, like ours does (violently). It feels like a blanket and reminds them of swaddle but their arms are free and they can move around at night if they need to, which for some kids is necessary as they naturally move into other sleep positions to find the most comfortable one. I'll try suggesting them. Though he also hates lying on his back, like when changing clothes. He sleeps on his back fine, though. life is killing me posted:Also if no one has mentioned this and if you're not doing this already, make sure temperature is constant and level wherever he's sleeping, don't want him too hot or too cold especially at 6mo. Pajamas and sleep suits can play into this so of course just choose the most appropriate jammies and sleep apparatus for your kid's temperature preference I guess. We try keeping the room a comfortable temperature. It gets down to around 4-5 degrees celcius at night here, so we can't have the window open, and I worry about getting him to sleep in the evenings in the summer, since the room is directly under an inclined roof heading west. life is killing me posted:Good luck! Sleep is the hardest thing we've dealt with, having a kid. It's just hard to get a handle on it (for us it is anyway) and when sleep training you never know if it's actually working or not. We didn't do it--we stopped trying to sleep when he started sleeping through the night, figuring we didn't need to do it because yay we could get a full night's sleep, and sleep training didn't seem like it was working anyway. I don't feel any of our attempts at sleep training led to sleeping through the night, he just started doing it out of nowhere. Then stopped out of nowhere. Then we wished we'd had more discipline in sleep training, because now it's a drat fight with him being older and smarter, and we're forced to make him cry it out some nights because he does everything he can to stay awake no matter how tired he is, and is nearly impossible to get him down to his crib even from a dead sleep without immediate wakeup and screaming that we're not holding him anymore. It's our fault, really. We don't want him to cry it out, but now he kinda needs to so he can learn to fall asleep on his own, and we've read that babies who can fall asleep on their own need less help at night and have fewer wakeups. He eventually does fall asleep, and each night there's less and less crying, and more of him just shifting around after standing at the edge of his crib, sitting down and then basically inwardly shrugging figuring we aren't rushing in this time and it's on him. Moral of the story? At least try and stick with sleep training early on, or it'll be Cry It Out City later on, something at least one of you will hate and have a hard time not going in there to comfort the poor fella. abigserve posted:There are schedules online but what worked for us was to time the crying. If he's fed and changed, mum and dad are in the room or periodically responding, he has everything he needs. As parents we were breaking because it felt like an eternity listening to a screaming baby, but once we started keeping track we realised we would have been in there and rescuing him after like 5 minutes or not even! I think our main worry about leaving him to cry is that when he gets completely hysterical he'll cramp up and stop breathing, and sometimes throw up, and we worry he's going to choke. Hippie Hedgehog posted:I would still keep his bed in your room, unless you know for sure he's being woken up by noises you make. In my experience, babies that wake up at night do it for internal reasons, not external ones... Him being able to hear you breathing and snoring might just as well act as a comforting factor. Hippie Hedgehog posted:Speaking of which, about the security blanket, are you making sure it is staying away from his face? Loose fabrics is a contributing risk factor for SIDS. (You probably know all about this, but I have to ask.) Hippie Hedgehog posted:Tell us more about the problem situations. Sounds like the problem is mostly with his naps during daytime? He falls asleep OK at bedtime? We don't feed him before naps, since he doesn't seem to have a sleep association with eating, but he does use a pacifier. He's hard to get to burp at night, and he probably wakes a bit because gas is troubling him.
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What's the next step up from a bouncer for our kid? He's 5 months old, 17 pounds, and maybe 25" tall and his legs are just starting to go over the end of the bouncer when we put him in it. Ours has a max weight of 20 pounds on it. We like the bouncer because we can put him in it and clip him in and let him hang out there while we're in the kitchen making dinner, etc. Any ideas for something similar we can put him in while we're doing things and can't hold him? Who knows-maybe at 6 months or whenever he starts crawling he's not going to want to sit anywhere and we'll have to do something else-just trying to think of new alternatives we can put him in for when it's in the morning and I'm making breakfast but I'm up with him at the same time, etc.
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for sure. When they are really going for it it's absolutely crazy. The way we got through it was to re-assure ourselves that a baby has never died from crying but it's small comfort when you're in the thick of it. Boz0r posted:Yeah, our main problem is that there's so many different ways of tackling the problem, and we don't know what to choose. We'll probably go with the crying it out method when my girlfriend gets desperate. Hopefully before she gets a depression. we tried; - pink noise/nice music - swaddles, wraps - bedtime routine (this one might have paid off in the long run) - putting him down awake/putting him down asleep - stuffing with food before bed/not feeding directly before bed - being more disciplined with daytime naps - messing with temperature/bedtime clothing - baby gas/colic remedies like infants friend and others - co-sleeping; when this stopped "working" that was what made us try crying methods
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Apr 17, 2019 12:45
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I found this guide. What do you do if the baby never stops crying? I assume he will, but I just can't image him stopping crying by himself.
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Apr 17, 2019 14:44
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Our five year old marched into our room this morning, naked as a jay, and he announced “Look at how beautiful I am”.
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nwin posted:What's the next step up from a bouncer for our kid? He's 5 months old, 17 pounds, and maybe 25" tall and his legs are just starting to go over the end of the bouncer when we put him in it. Ours has a max weight of 20 pounds on it. Not 100% certain what you mean by a bouncer, but if its one of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KHR7TPK/ref=psdc_166851011_t2_B00IVNEFCM Its not a big deal if their legs hang out. I still use it for my 8 month old if I need to take him outside in the yard with me. He now has an exersaucer that he spends a lot more time in now. Like one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Evenflo-Exer...147&sr=1-6&th=1
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Apr 17, 2019 15:19
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nwin posted:What's the next step up from a bouncer for our kid? He's 5 months old, 17 pounds, and maybe 25" tall and his legs are just starting to go over the end of the bouncer when we put him in it. Ours has a max weight of 20 pounds on it. We use the high chair with some of those suction-on toys for the tray if he's being cranky or anxious in the pack n play (even though we're like 10 feet away, you can see us dude).
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Boz0r posted:I found this guide. What do you do if the baby never stops crying? I assume he will, but I just can't image him stopping crying by himself. For what it’s worth, my oldest two were both abysmal sleepers as babies/toddlers (and abysmal in totally different ways). At ages seven and almost five, they put themselves to sleep and sleep all night. We didn’t do cry it out. In both cases, when they were done getting teeth, we did “sleep train” to help them figure out how to go to sleep (but it was a slow process of us lying with them, then starting to leave once in a while for short bursts — there were no tears) and they figured out the night time stuff on their own when it was appropriate (I’d say they were both done waking up at night by three). My youngest (23 m) is by far our best at going to sleep and by far our shittiest night time sleeper. Go figure.
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Alterian posted:Its not a big deal if their legs hang out. I still use it for my 8 month old if I need to take him outside in the yard with me. He now has an exersaucer that he spends a lot more time in now. Like one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Evenflo-Exer...147&sr=1-6&th=1 We started our daughter in one of these around 5-5.5 months. The first time in it I swear she bounced/jumped for 45 minutes straight. Now it's just an efficient way to get to her to poop if she hasn't in a few days. 
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Boz0r posted:I found this guide. What do you do if the baby never stops crying? I assume he will, but I just can't image him stopping crying by himself. Play it by ear but set a time limit on it when you'll pick them up regardless is what we did. For us this was 20 mins and that's almost exactly how long it took for him to go to sleep. In the first week he would sometimes make it all the way and in that case we picked him up, tried feeding which usually worked, put him back.
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