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As a life long smoker. No. What? Have you ever even seen someone smoking in a movie? What? I’m just adding to the pile of not making sense but gently caress that was so dumb.
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In fact here's a couple more shots from Zak's masterpiece 'We Eat Blood And All Our Friends Are Dead', regarding the trans vampire prostitute (named after a trans creator he's tried to harass out of the industry) who eats people for not being woke enough. and  text, so linked instead of previewed.https://imgur.com/Ne3hqi1 https://imgur.com/5yEiIi5
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Apr 17, 2019 07:04
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The per-word rate for that should be in something other than money.
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Apr 17, 2019 07:24
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Monokeros deAstris posted:Welp I guess The Fantasy Trip was the last SJG product I'll be backing/buying for a while. I mean, loving seriously? Well, it's not like I was a devoted customer of theirs anyway, I just like learning about the history of the hobby. I'm not in an y way up to date with what's going on. What's wrong with Steve Jackson Games?
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Comstar posted:I'm not in an y way up to date with what's going on. What's wrong with Steve Jackson Games? SJG announced they were partnering with Frog God Games to make adventures for The Fantasy Trip. The CEO of Frog God is Bill Webb, who's known for getting drunk and harassing women at conventions, with one incident going very public as a witness spoke about it, much as there was an attempt to cover it up. People called them (SJG) out for it on their kickstarter and they went from 'we know nothing about it' to 'well we read a forum thread on enworld and we don't care, you can have a partial refund if you want'. And now today Phil Reed, the CEO, is trying to say that the real offence is in even raising Webb's harassment up again, and that they're hiding behind the victim out of respect for her and other such bullshit. If they'd just handled it a little better at the time, it wouldn't have been an issue, instead they hosed up their communications on it, and are now doubling down.
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Apr 17, 2019 12:31
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Liquid Communism posted:In fact here's a couple more shots from Zak's masterpiece 'We Eat Blood And All Our Friends Are Dead', regarding the trans vampire prostitute (named after a trans creator he's tried to harass out of the industry) who eats people for not being woke enough. Why would a Kindred care about any of that. (I know, Zak's a terrible writer. We are all mere Tipper Gores for not understanding his Great Work)
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Apr 17, 2019 12:36
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Kurieg posted:Ericksson wants to run the company like he's Mark Rein*Hagen in the heyday of the 90's again. Where you could make a character that was a gay transsexual nazi murderer and people would clap and go "Wow, thank you for acknowledging that gays exist." despite the fact that the character was problematic as gently caress. There was a sort of overtone of "we're bringing back everything you loved* about the 90s!" *We mean everything we loved about 90s Vampire LARPs That Old Tree posted:The blog post itself was also just…not great? At best. It had a couple of things that were just flat-out wrong, like Zak being part of GamerGate, which then undermines its use as anything worthwhile concerning stuff that's actually true. It also kept waffling around with this weird "now I'm not specifically saying nWW is Nazis, they are probably just unfortunately out-of-touch edgelords, but here is something bad they did and they did it to specifically appeal to Nazis." That's true. It was full of just enough holes and logical fallacies that it was easy to dismiss as a deliberate smear or lies. The bad press from it did apparently make some people at Paradox or nuWW pay attention, but it was a mess altogether. Kai Tave posted:Let's please not forget Martin Ericsson's turn at fiction writing giving us the now classic turn of phrase "full rear end-rape stiffness." Thanks for reminding me of this: to show how much they were bringing the 90s back in style, they decided they really had to reprint a WoD fiction anthology book with an all new story from Martin Ericsson. The book in question had originally been edited by a convicted child molester, but they didn't feel the need to make any note of that while making changes to the book. (The rear end-rape stiffness is one of many memorable quotes from the new story.) They were also making really bad additions to Onyx Path books as part of revising the lore for the oWoD setting, like reportedly adding in a section to a Werewolf book about how sex reassignment surgery doesn't work on werewolves because everything goes back to the way it was pre-surgery the next time they shapeshift thanks to their healing factor. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Apr 17, 2019 |
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Apr 17, 2019 12:41
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Nuns with Guns posted:They were also making really bad additions to Onyx Path books as part of revising the lore for the oWoD setting, like reportedly adding in a section to a Werewolf book about how sex reassignment surgery doesn't work on werewolves because everything goes back to the way it was pre-surgery the next time they shapeshift thanks to their healing factor. According to the changes Paradox made: for a werewolf to actually transition you need powerful spirit magic, and it leaves you sterile. To most of the garou nation this means you're worse than a Metis because you couldn't just accept your "Gaia given gender." It's possible to transition *and* stay reproductively fit but it requires the power of a spirit one step below a tribal totem. Also Garou are unaffected by hormonal birth control and Garou sex is so vigorous it "Overcomes all physical forms of birth control." So yeah, male garou ejaculate so hard it cuts right through your vaginal diaphragm and vaporizes your IUD. Because Garou are demanded of to have babies. A woman who enters menopause without having at least one kid(or miscarriage) loses like, 70 renown. Male garou are..uh...(fart noise)
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Apr 17, 2019 13:52
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That's some reeaaal poo poo. And given the vague bastardisation of shamanic themes Werewolf generally uses, extremely off base. And what the gently caress in general. And if you'd think if you're putting that much effort into werewolf sex you're going to want to not piss off furries.
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Apr 17, 2019 14:24
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Kurieg posted:According to the changes Paradox made: for a werewolf to actually transition you need powerful spirit magic, and it leaves you sterile. To most of the garou nation this means you're worse than a Metis because you couldn't just accept your "Gaia given gender." It's possible to transition *and* stay reproductively fit but it requires the power of a spirit one step below a tribal totem. Way to go HAM at making the Black Furies the barefoot and pregnant tribe.
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Kurieg posted:According to the changes Paradox made: for a werewolf to actually transition you need powerful spirit magic, and it leaves you sterile. To most of the garou nation this means you're worse than a Metis because you couldn't just accept your "Gaia given gender." It's possible to transition *and* stay reproductively fit but it requires the power of a spirit one step below a tribal totem. Please tell me they didn't gently caress up WtF this bad, too.
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Apr 17, 2019 15:03
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Arivia posted:Please tell me they didn't gently caress up WtF this bad, too. Not as far as I know. Thankfully swedracula seems to believe that COFD is an inferior product to oWoD, and actual-factual-Paradox is even more hands off with OPP.
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Arivia posted:Please tell me they didn't gently caress up WtF this bad, too.
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Apr 17, 2019 15:18
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Kurieg posted:Not as far as I know. Thankfully swedracula seems to believe that COFD is an inferior product to oWoD, and actual-factual-Paradox is even more hands off with OPP. Is swedracula still at Paradox?
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Sion posted:Is swedracula still at Paradox? As far as we're aware, yes. But he doesn't have the level of editorial oversight that he used to have. I'm pretty sure he doesn't have any.
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Kurieg posted:As far as we're aware, yes. But he doesn't have the level of editorial oversight that he used to have. I'm pretty sure he doesn't have any. So he's a paperweight, basically?
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Apr 17, 2019 15:29
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I know for a fact he's still managing various things at White Wolf.
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Apr 17, 2019 15:31
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Rand Brittain posted:I know for a fact he's still managing various things at White Wolf. Things? I mean there's a big difference between managing the paper supplies, and continuing to have oversight over the licensed rpg and decision making/approval authority for it.
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PST posted:Things? I don't really know the details, unfortunately, but he's definitely still managing things and not just on retainer.
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Nuns with Guns posted:One of the sample PC vampires was also a coded child predator. Kurieg posted:Ericksson wants to run the company like he's Mark Rein*Hagen in the heyday of the 90's again. Where you could make a character that was a gay transsexual nazi murderer and people would clap and go "Wow, thank you for acknowledging that gays exist." despite the fact that the character was problematic as gently caress. That Old Tree posted:The blog post itself was also just…not great? At best. It had a couple of things that were just flat-out wrong, like Zak being part of GamerGate, which then undermines its use as anything worthwhile concerning stuff that's actually true. It also kept waffling around with this weird "now I'm not specifically saying nWW is Nazis, they are probably just unfortunately out-of-touch edgelords, but here is something bad they did and they did it to specifically appeal to Nazis."
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Rand Brittain posted:I don't really know the details, unfortunately, but he's definitely still managing things and not just on retainer. As far as labor laws go, he's protected insofar as he hasn't done anything actually fireable under Swedish law iirc. THey're welcome to move him around and relinquish some of his duties, but he can't be outright fired.
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Halloween Jack posted:I went back through all the Sample PCs from all the clanbooks I could find, and yeah, gross stuff was shockingly common in V:tM. Tarnowski is not a facist. He's a wizard. I am not making this up.
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Apr 17, 2019 18:27
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Tarnowski is not a facist. He's a wizard.
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Apr 17, 2019 18:32
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Hostile V posted:Yeah like wizards can't be fascists. Name 3 fascist wizards
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Apr 17, 2019 18:33
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Name 3 fascist wizards
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Apr 17, 2019 18:42
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Julius Evola, Alexander Dugin, Heinrich Himmler* *well, he had some occultist buddies. Their influence has generally been overstated. Nonetheless, gently caress all fascist wizards.
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Hostile V posted:Grindelwald, Lucius Malfoy and Blackwolf from Wizards. Joe Slowboat posted:Julius Evola, Alexander Dugin, Heinrich Himmler*  Alright, you win.
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Apr 17, 2019 18:48
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Liquid Communism posted:In fact here's a couple more shots from Zak's masterpiece 'We Eat Blood And All Our Friends Are Dead', regarding the trans vampire prostitute (named after a trans creator he's tried to harass out of the industry) who eats people for not being woke enough. To be accurate, because this game gets brought up a lot. Zak only co-wrote that and did the lovely, ugly art. It was also co-written by a trans woman, the trans woman in question writes lovely edgelord stuff and is an abuse enabler, but she claims she named the character and didn't know the other trans creator in question. Zak is still an awful, abusive, probable rapist shithead though.
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Catfishenfuego posted:To be accurate, because this game gets brought up a lot. Zak only co-wrote that and did the lovely, ugly art. It was also co-written by a trans woman, the trans woman in question writes lovely edgelord stuff and is an abuse enabler, but she claims she named the character and didn't know the other trans creator in question. To be clear: Zak almost certainly wrote at least the character’s name and told her to claim it.
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I feel like I've asked before and forgotten but who is the trans creator they're sniping at there?
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Avery Alder, the creator of Monsterhearts, who has gone on record as saying that the character probably isn't an attack. Too subtle.
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Tarnowski also doesn’t understand the Yi Jing. Of loving course he doesn’t.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Tarnowski also doesn’t understand
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"Gee was that supposed to be me?" is probably the safest public response to that, unfortunately.
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So here is how Phil Reed, the CEO of Steve Jackson Games, has handled the criticism of them partnering with Bill Webb, sexual harasser and all around drunken shithead. Firstly, here is a reminder of how Steve Jackson handled becoming aware that his business partner had sexually harassed a woman at a convention and assaulted someone trying to stop him: quote:David, Chris, Aaron - I have read in its entirety the 2017 EN thread that Chris pointed to, and I do understand that a number of posters there are incensed at Bill Webb. To me, that does not justify SJ Games boycotting a whole company. Some very good things are coming out of our work with Frog God – three different projects are underway, and I don’t expect them to be the last. If that makes you wish you had not supported our Adventures campaign, we’ll work with you to refund your pledge, minus the fees already charged by Kickstarter, Stripe, and BackerKit. Those requests should go to darryll@sjgames.com. –SJ So, unsurprisingly after a bunch of people had called this out as being at best centrist bullshit or more accurately defending the abuser over their victims, here's how SJ Games' CEO responded: quote:Yes. Out of respect for the victim -- and she absolutely was a victim of the situation -- we will not engage in a public discussion surrounding the matter. We've collected the information that we needed to make a decision and, after discussion with multiple individuals who were directly involved, we have a clear understanding of what happened. You may, if you wish, try to contrast this with his private comments on the subject below, which together with the above demonstrate what he actually cares about : quote:I am officially an idiot. I tried to be reasonable and explain that we investigated a situation, discussed the subject with multiple people, and made a decision based on information that we were provided. That was a mistake on my part, because those who are angry at the situation feel that my statement was insensitive and that I support those who abuse and harass others. This is what he's claiming personally, please do try and reconcile this with his previous statements. If this was the UK politics discussion i'd talk about centrist bullshit, but instead I think it's simply that he, and SJG just don't give a poo poo other than how dare anyone criticise them or make them look bad, even if it's just quoting their own responses or actions back to them. In short, personally he's playing the 'ohh woe is me' card and at best deceiving his commentators or more likely just using social currency to get them to support him. As far as his customers are concerned, well gently caress them, they deserve nothing but contempt and how dare they criticise the company they should be honoured to receive anything from. In short, Phil Reedis a deceitful self-opinionated wanker, steve jackson is clearly an out of touch old age prat who will say dumb things without anyone monitoring him, and they as a company should be told to gently caress off until and unless they have the slightest clue about giving a poo poo about anything other than their hopefully collapsing profit margins.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Tarnowski also doesn’t understand the Yi Jing. Of loving course he doesn’t. I almost want to listen to him read/explain the Bhagavad Gita but on the other hand I really don't.
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Dawgstar posted:I almost want to listen to him read/explain the Bhagavad Gita but on the other hand I really don't. didn't Tarnowski come out with that OSR clone nominally set in Indian mythology
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Dawgstar posted:I almost want to listen to him read/explain the Bhagavad Gita but on the other hand I really don't. "You see Krishna, being a time traveling psychic projection of SJW communist feminist ideology..."
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gradenko_2000 posted:didn't Tarnowski come out with that OSR clone nominally set in Indian mythology Yeah and it was really bad and a classic example of someone using wikipedia and a couple of other sources to write a 'comprehensive' mythological guide to one of the most complex theological belief structures in the world. Of course, he continues to claim how special he is for doing it and how random chad (37, Minnesota) has hailed it as the greatest work in archeological history, because of course he does.
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PST posted:Yeah and it was really bad and a classic example of someone using wikipedia and a couple of other sources to write a 'comprehensive' mythological guide to one of the most complex theological belief structures in the world. Also, gently caress SJG and that disingenuous bullshit. "Out of respect for the victim"? gently caress you gently caress you gently caress you. Reed throwing a pity party for himself and assuming the martyred status of The Real Victim Here was overdetermined, but still utterly appalling.
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