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Istvun
Apr 20, 2007


A better world is just $69.69 away.

Soiled Meat

mycomancy posted:

Let's hear it! :munch:

it was created by beverage makers who were under immense public pressure to move away from single-use containers in order to shift the blame for the problem from themselves to 'litterbugs' who viciously went around dropping their stuff everywhere because they hated america

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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

spacetoaster posted:

Was that the actual program? I just used those words to mean everyone started to harass each other to stop throwing their trash out car windows.

*edit* Nope, that's Keep America Beautiful

Oh yeah it's Beautiful, not Clean, gently caress :v:

mycomancy posted:

Let's hear it! :munch:

HP Hovercraft already basically said it but it was created by the makers and sellers of disposable single-use junk specifically with the goal of offsetting responsibility for litter onto consumers and showing it as an example of "look look we're doing something!!!" whenever anyone suggested some kind of regulation.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Also while I'm at it I should mention that the famous Crying Indian was played by an Italian dude

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Shame Boy posted:

(and conversely you shouldn't feel superior to everyone else if you are a perfect carbon monk)

I wholeheartedly agree with you, but its this part and the associated bullshit that is irritating and generating the yelling.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Shame Boy posted:

Also while I'm at it I should mention that the famous Crying Indian was played by an Italian dude
well turnabout is fair play

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Feeling a profound sense of shame whenever you do something that's needlessly wasteful is a good start.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
jUsT bUy A tEsLa ThAt WiLl FiX cLiMaTe ChAnGe

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
used to be you could take glass bottles back to the store and get a small percentage of the money back (they still do this in some states)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_deposit_legislation_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_bottle_recycling_in_the_United_States

big corps stopped doing it as soon as it stop being mandated

Peanut President has issued a correction as of 19:04 on Apr 17, 2019

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
this twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/AwesomeBioTA/status/1114263149803216897
https://twitter.com/AwesomeBioTA/status/1114265259265544192
https://twitter.com/AwesomeBioTA/status/1114266091860054016
https://twitter.com/AwesomeBioTA/status/1114268052000870400

tino
Jun 4, 2018

by Smythe

gey muckle mowser posted:

I wish I could take mass transit to work. It's a 15 minute drive to work for me or 90+ minutes taking the bus, 20 of which is walking on a route where there are zero sidewalks and in a city where it's either raining or there is 2+ feet of snow 9 months out of the year.

You probably can bike to work. I bike commute (13 mile each way) to Manhattan on an ebike. The energy consumption is minimal. It works out to half a cent of electricity per mile for me,

edit: and if I go by actual owner reported number, its about 14 times less energy per mile usage than a Tesla 3.

tino has issued a correction as of 19:16 on Apr 17, 2019

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
i used to bike to work, but i moved and traffic patterns make it impossible :smith:

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Lambert posted:

Yes, and corporations don't produce because consumers consume. Glad we cleared that one up.

Acting like there's no personal responsibility is an easy cop-out to still feel like a good person while doing nothing. Also, individual change leads to greater societal change and political action.

do the world and this thread a favor and eat a shotgun

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
I'm not saying kill yourself I'm simply saying that the difficult process of eating a hard piece of metal and wood would save us from having to read your posting and also not eating meat would help the environment :angel:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

I don't know where else this fits so I'm just going to post it here: Right now NPR is doing some round-table show that's usually pretty serious, and the topic is... fanfiction, specifically fanfiction about real people.

Things I heard:

- The first question the host asks was just "Why....... I guess just Why"
- One of the guests was a professor whose credentials were that she was the editor (in chief?) of the academic "Journal of Fandom"
- One of the guests (possibly the same person) wrote a book called "Fangasm: Supernatural Fangirls"
- The host then went into "I guess we should define some terms for our listeners, can you tell me what 'slash' fiction is?" which they defined without mentioning gayness at all which was weird, followed by "And what does it mean to 'ship' people?"
- Apparently people used to write pornographic fiction about Marie Antoinette and trade them?

I had to turn the radio off because it was too surreal and uncomfortable and I was getting this peculiar feeling of dread welling up inside me.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
lol listening to npr

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

Shame Boy posted:

I don't know where else this fits so I'm just going to post it here: Right now NPR is doing some round-table show that's usually pretty serious, and the topic is... fanfiction, specifically fanfiction about real people.

Things I heard:

- The first question the host asks was just "Why....... I guess just Why"
- One of the guests was a professor whose credentials were that she was the editor (in chief?) of the academic "Journal of Fandom"
- One of the guests (possibly the same person) wrote a book called "Fangasm: Supernatural Fangirls"
- The host then went into "I guess we should define some terms for our listeners, can you tell me what 'slash' fiction is?" which they defined without mentioning gayness at all which was weird, followed by "And what does it mean to 'ship' people?"
- Apparently people used to write pornographic fiction about Marie Antoinette and trade them?

I had to turn the radio off because it was too surreal and uncomfortable and I was getting this peculiar feeling of dread welling up inside me.

...what show ? :psyduck:

im gonna guess Here and Now

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Eat This Glob posted:

...what show ? :psyduck:

im gonna guess Here and Now

1A, which in the past was reasonable enough driving bullshit radio but looking at their website apparently a recent episode was "Reddit: Downvoting Conspiracy, Upvoting Community?" so lmao nevermind

Phi230 posted:

lol listening to npr

Yeah yeah I know

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
I miss Diane Rhem

snoo
Jul 5, 2007





christ

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I'm not sure if I'm entirely understanding this but the conclusion I came to is that when I order sushi it's not actually the fish they say it is? Or am I just getting a random fish every time?

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Taintrunner posted:

I'm not sure if I'm entirely understanding this but the conclusion I came to is that when I order sushi it's not actually the fish they say it is? Or am I just getting a random fish every time?

not just random fish but random organisms

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
it's a pretty believable outcome -- how much of the customer base for seafood in general can really tell the difference

snoo
Jul 5, 2007




Phi230 posted:

not just random fish but random organisms

'random organisms' is such a concerning phrase in ANY context

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

I don't know about the rest of those but

quote:

This wasn't a piece of garbage from a market. This was from a "salmon fillet" that someone paid good money for, cut some off before they cooked it, put it in saran wrap & brought it in.

BODY LOUSE.

Think about how much there must be in that sample to override fish DNA!

sounds like one of your students has lice and one hopped into the sample tube.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Phi230 posted:

not just random fish but random organisms

Fun Fact: fried calamari is indistinguishable from fried pork bung

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Shame Boy posted:

Fun Fact: fried calamari is indistinguishable from fried pork bung

:barf: squid

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
Enjoy your body lice sushi!

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Iron Crowned posted:

Enjoy your body lice sushi!

i am a man who eats bug! !!!

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003


isnt this fraud?

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

Shame Boy posted:

1A, which in the past was reasonable enough driving bullshit radio but looking at their website apparently a recent episode was "Reddit: Downvoting Conspiracy, Upvoting Community?" so lmao nevermind

yikes. that's real bad

Iron Crowned posted:

I miss Diane Rhem

my grandma has the same vocal inflection :3:

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


Jel Shaker posted:

isnt this fraud?

don't worry, the market will correct it

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Jel Shaker posted:

isnt this fraud?

Only if done intentionally. The guys on the boat or the distributor are the most likely sources of fraud.

I've gotten very ill a few times I've eaten "fancy" sushi in the US and not gotten ill when eating cheap sushi in the US. I wonder if I just react severely to escolar because those were the symptoms...

hobbesmaster has issued a correction as of 19:59 on Apr 17, 2019

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
can confirm that escolar will give you nightmare shits

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Taintrunner posted:

I'm not sure if I'm entirely understanding this but the conclusion I came to is that when I order sushi it's not actually the fish they say it is? Or am I just getting a random fish every time?

Yeah they DNA tested 9 samples of fish from stores and restaurants, and only 2 actually were the fish they were labelled as.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Jel Shaker posted:

isnt this fraud?

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

i just read a mother jones article on escolar. sounds exactly like every piece of white tuna I've ever had, but I've never had more than two portions in a night, so, thankfully, i didnt have stuff leaking out of my butt

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Jel Shaker posted:

isnt this fraud?

who do you charge?

Mokelumne Trekka
Nov 22, 2015

Soon.

ekuNNN posted:

Yeah they DNA tested 9 samples of fish from stores and restaurants, and only 2 actually were the fish they were labelled as.

No biggie let the masses delude themselves with their false fish, as long as Martha's Vineyard and other advanced, more intelligent groups of diners get the correct plate all is well

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug

Jel Shaker posted:

isnt this fraud?
if it was intentional

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ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Duke Energy Fined $102 million for Polluting Rivers with Coal Ash

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