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This just in 6 jezails vs Vampire Counts is just hilarious. I should see if I can get a 1 kill, 0 deaths, 100% enemy loss fight
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Does the AI actually know how to deal with Undercities? I had a bit of panic when the High Elves found my base under Lothern that was almost single handedly fuellng my early war machine, but it's been nearly 30 turns later and they're just kinda cool with it.
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Apr 18, 2019 23:38
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T-MINUS 10, MOTHERFUCKERS
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Apr 18, 2019 23:43
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How are people using undercity in the early game? I'm 8 turns in on my ikitclaw campaign (played last night after getting it updated) and have just made an undercity in telai(?the big city to the right of skavenblight?). Are people just sending agents across the map to rich cities and making under cities unconnected to your empire?
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Apr 18, 2019 23:46
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ughhhh posted:How are people using undercity in the early game? I'm 8 turns in on my ikitclaw campaign (played last night after getting it updated) and have just made an undercity in telai(?the big city to the right of skavenblight?). Are people just sending agents across the map to rich cities and making under cities unconnected to your empire?
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Apr 18, 2019 23:49
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ughhhh posted:How are people using undercity in the early game? I'm 8 turns in on my ikitclaw campaign (played last night after getting it updated) and have just made an undercity in telai(?the big city to the right of skavenblight?). Are people just sending agents across the map to rich cities and making under cities unconnected to your empire? After about 60 turns in for me, it seems the strat is to use the doom engineer ritual and build undercities using those on the biggest cities like lothern because those give you a special workshop in the undercity which would be better to have permanently, and when that is on cooldown yeah spread some undercities out where you plan on conquering eventually to soften them up.
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Apr 18, 2019 23:49
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In my experience, you'll want to pretty much immediately prepare a nuke under Itza(vortex) and Miriblablabla(ME), especially the latter because there's no way you're going to break Tilea's full stack+giant garrison with the units you have available by turn 12.
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Apr 18, 2019 23:58
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Asehujiko posted:In my experience, you'll want to pretty much immediately prepare a nuke under Itza(vortex) and Miriblablabla(ME), especially the latter because there's no way you're going to break Tilea's full stack+giant garrison with the units you have available by turn 12. in other news: BEEP BEEP BEEP 
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Apr 19, 2019 00:06
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loving hell it was even more satisfying than I thought it was gonna be. 
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Apr 19, 2019 00:15
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I just ignored miragliano untuil I conquered estalia. They're not gonna win against skavenblight if they declare war on you.
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Apr 19, 2019 00:16
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I do like how the unit card for the clan rat spears looks pretty much like the mascot for the university of Minnesota
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Apr 19, 2019 00:18
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Naw it's pretty easy if you use a doomrocket. You can pop a gate and take out everything on top of it in one hit. If you've brought a backup stack of slaves then that first city is a pushover.
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Apr 19, 2019 00:20
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You don't need to make them come out, if you besiege the city they'll probably sally. And you can fight them on much better terms that way.
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Apr 19, 2019 00:22
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Yeah, Magritta's army came at me and I knocked like half of it out with a single doom rocket. You have the tools to take it pretty early.
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Apr 19, 2019 00:25
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I would still suggest not going for miragliano first because yeah their starting army is strong and it's only a two city province. Estalia is much better, four cities all of which have ports, massive economic base for you there with the port/warp reactor synergy. But you can definitely go for it after estalia and it doesn't pose much of a threat to you while you do because skavenblight has a good garrison, which you'll want to enhance anyway because it tends to have public order problems for a while and will see regular revolts.
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Apr 19, 2019 00:28
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Asehujiko posted:Are you referring to Magritta, capital of Estalia? Because Miragliano starts with 22 units in it at the start of the game between the army and garrison and as of writing on turn 12, that's now 34 and I've had no luck baiting the army into an ambush outside the city. .
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Apr 19, 2019 00:28
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Two-city provinces are actually pretty decent for the rats because of the food commandment actually making them net-even as far as food goes, which is almost always my limiting resource as Skaven.
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Apr 19, 2019 00:33
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That's what your under empire is for, you can get food income from each under city.
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Apr 19, 2019 00:33
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How is Ikit in melee? Also, with the nukes I'm gathering that they take ten turns to build and then they just go off automatically? Or can you set them up and then trigger them?
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Apr 19, 2019 00:36
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Asehujiko posted:In my experience, you'll want to pretty much immediately prepare a nuke under Itza(vortex) and Miriblablabla(ME), especially the latter because there's no way you're going to break Tilea's full stack+giant garrison with the units you have available by turn 12. Itza's easy as hell to take with Ikit. A heavy weapons team build with slave/clanrat screen doesn't register all that high on the combat balance scale, which means the garrison will generally sally, at which point you shatter them - they had a 17 stack defending against me with 4 ratling guns, 3 jezzails and a single warpfire thrower, and they were utterly wrecked (I MIGHT have tossed a doomrocket too, don't recall). Then just autoresolve the siege battle against the shattered remnants.
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Apr 19, 2019 00:45
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Giggle Goose posted:How is Ikit in melee? Also, with the nukes I'm gathering that they take ten turns to build and then they just go off automatically? Or can you set them up and then trigger them? Pretty good if you stick him on a doom flayer. Pretty meh if not.
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Apr 19, 2019 00:46
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OwlFancier posted:That's what your under empire is for, you can get food income from each under city. Actually, all around there are a lot more ways to get food as Skaven so I may be overreacting compared to earlier patches.
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Apr 19, 2019 00:47
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Is there a reason to play warhammer TW1? do these games have a story?
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Apr 19, 2019 00:48
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I have currently placed a doomsphere under every city in Athel Loren, totally invisible, primed to blow simultaneously. I did this. The resulting explosions are GLORIOUS.
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Apr 19, 2019 00:50
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Dpulex posted:Is there a reason to play warhammer TW1? do these games have a story? There's an argument that the old world campaign map is better for TW1 races than the Mortal Empires map due to the climate stuff introduced in TW2. Plus ME turn times are bad. But some TW1 races have been revamped and have much more stuff in 2 (mainly vampire counts, but Bretonnia just got a rework). I will summarise the plot of TW1: Fight race appropriate enemy. CHAOS INVASION. Archaon dead, invasion over. Fight everyone. Vortex in TW2 has a bit more of a story, but ME doesn't.
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Apr 19, 2019 01:10
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Ravenfood posted:True, that's a huge help, but it takes a bit to get rolling from them. Early two-city provinces are actually totally fine for Skaven even if they're a bit suboptimal for other races. 4-city provinces are also really nice thanks to the stacking economic bonuses, but you'll have to have some farms for them. I would suggest that specifically for your first provice, estalia and its conquest gives you ample room to start building up and the food to suport it as well as the economic base you need. Miragliano is more easily conquered second and comes with a food deposit to keep you going longer term. But as skaven really like to just be fighting a lot, estalia is the better first shot.
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hardest part about playing skaven now is that your defense maps are insanely dark and sometimes you accidentally have all of your ranged units get obstructed by hills that you can't see
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i am positive that at least two of my three current mods are working, but i had to fiddle around to make that happen and i'm not sure exactly what did the trick edit: holy poo poo, now i'm sad i NAPed the greenskins that managed to take that province 
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Apr 19, 2019 01:44
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Most of the inner ring of Ulthuan has been taken over by a rogue army which seems to have mega-garrisons.  
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Apr 19, 2019 02:02
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i'm really undecided about whether to stick ikit claw in a doomwheel pro: doomwheel con: his shootyhand owns and he'd be a bigger missile target
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Apr 19, 2019 02:19
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good ol vashnaar the stampede
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Apr 19, 2019 02:26
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Ghost of Babyhead posted:Most of the inner ring of Ulthuan has been taken over by a rogue army which seems to have mega-garrisons. Lmao he's back, baby!!!!!! His garrisons are indeed retarded. Is his behavior consistent with other Rogue Armies? Do they all garrison in the form of their original stack?
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Apr 19, 2019 02:27
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New Bretonnia confederation is pretty nuts. You can have the whole thing united in 50 turns pretty easily. I snapped it up in 36.
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Apr 19, 2019 02:44
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Oh wow, launching the War of Skaven Annihilation loving skyrockets your friendship with all other lizardmen. Which is exactly meaningless, because 200 friendship isn't enough to get me a fuckin' *access treaty* with a one-city faction.
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Apr 19, 2019 03:07
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Nuking a bunch of cities at once is fun but I kind of prefer having stacks of skaven spawn everywhere at once and totally loving up a province
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Asehujiko posted:In my experience, you'll want to pretty much immediately prepare a nuke under Itza(vortex) and Miriblablabla(ME), especially the latter because there's no way you're going to break Tilea's fyouull stack+giant garrison with the units you have available by turn 12. Tilea sent 2 full stacks at me when I was just outside reinforcement range of the barracks. Almost double my numbers, but it was an open field and my plague claws, jezzails, railings, and a doomrocket. I didnt lose a single unit
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GreyjoyBastard posted:i'm really undecided about whether to stick ikit claw in a doomwheel i put him in his doomwheel and he immediately died and it sucked rear end. his doom flayer seems much better, and him unmounted is maybe even better than that
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I killed literally 1000 lizards with a single doomrocket at the gates of Itza (and about 120 ratriots, whose names will live forever). I think the rats, especially Ikit, need a bit of a nerf, but I'm going to enjoy it while it lasts.
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