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Professor Funk posted:Have we had Sean Bunting chat here yet? I can't figure out if draft pundits are watching the same player. Draft Network has him as their 20th ranked CB prospect with a late round grade, while Brugler has him as his 4th ranked CB prospect with a 1st-2nd round grade. Lonnie Johnson Jr is another CB making a enormous jump, probably due to his size and 40 time
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I might as well explain why I like him and hope for the best. EDIT: And he's at Arrowhead visiting the Chiefs today so they're already on him. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/4/16/18310910/athletic-testing-and-cornerback-success-in-the-nfl quote:So what does this mean for the 2019 draft class? We don’t yet know who will be drafted from the group that participated in the NFL Scouting Combine this year to identify all of the players from this group of data, but looking at the combine numbers shows seven players that are identified as Tier 1 athletic testers in this draft class. Only 2017’s draft class contained more players that hit the mark with eight. quote:4. SEAN BUNTING | Central Michigan 6003 | 195 lbs. | JR. Macomb, Mich. (Chippewa Valley) 6/19/1997 (age 21.86) #3 I think this guy could be a good attitude, tougher Marcus Peters in the second round. My friend who went to Central Michigan said teams avoided running and throwing his direction most of last year. Numbers are encouraging on him and stats are misleading. kiimo fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Apr 17, 2019 |
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Professor Funk posted:Have we had Sean Bunting chat here yet? I can't figure out if draft pundits are watching the same player. Draft Network has him as their 20th ranked CB prospect with a late round grade, while Brugler has him as his 4th ranked CB prospect with a 1st-2nd round grade. The Draft Network updates their big board tied in to https://thedraftnetwork.com/mock-draft-machine fairly often, Bunting is #56 overall there
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I just did their mock to try and take Bunting with the Chiefs 2nd 2nd and ended up with this and I'll take it. 
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kiimo posted:I just did their mock to try and take Bunting with the Chiefs 2nd 2nd and ended up with this and I'll take it. I used that tool and got Rock Ya-Sin with the Niners third and my eyes nearly bugged out of my head
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Apr 17, 2019 22:15
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No way an all-name teamer like that falls to the third.
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Their mock draft tool is awesome, but it seems like there are always insane/unrealistic falls in the ones I've run. I did one today that had AJ Brown and Deebo Samuel available for the Jets at 68. Though if it's consistent about one thing, it's that the other teams snap up every decent o-line prospect early.
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Professor Funk posted:Their mock draft tool is awesome, but it seems like there are always insane/unrealistic falls in the ones I've run. I did one today that had AJ Brown and Deebo Samuel available for the Jets at 68. Though if it's consistent about one thing, it's that the other teams snap up every decent o-line prospect early. I just did a couple and in one Daniel Jones went in the top 15 and the next he was available at like 60.
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I keep seeing Andre Dilard mocked to the Panthers. Can someone tell me stuff about him?
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wandler20 posted:I just did a couple and in one Daniel Jones went in the top 15 and the next he was available at like 60. 60 is probably about the highest that Daniel Jones **should** go tbqh
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Apr 18, 2019 00:01
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Yeah I just had a draft where San Francisco chose DK Metcalf at 2. This site owns.
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Professor Funk posted:60 is probably about the highest that Daniel Jones **should** go tbqh And it's going to be hilarious when someone takes him in the first.
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reminder Fanspeak has it's own draft tool and the premium version allows for trades https://fanspeak.com/toolbox/
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BlindSite posted:I keep seeing Andre Dilard mocked to the Panthers. Can someone tell me stuff about him? athletic LT, looks the part, was pretty decent in pass protection in college but has some pretty significant mechanical flaws. Probably needs at least a redshirt year to gain some functional strength and to work on his technique. Good ceiling, but could also end up being the next ereck flowers
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This morning on local radio Steve Smith straight up said the Panthers were drafting a QB. All the local beat writers have said the same thing, and Gantt came out and said it would be in the 2nd round. They've been all over will grier. so yeah. there's that.
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FizFashizzle posted:This morning on local radio Steve Smith straight up said the Panthers were drafting a QB. Grier in the second? Woof.
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poo poo that would give them 2 years to at least try to groom Grier. Cam should have enough to last that long without chants for Grier.
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Apr 18, 2019 17:53
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I can’t believe Cam is broken already.
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Grier is 100% acceptable in the 2nd
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Diva Cupcake posted:I can’t believe Cam is broken already. He's going into his 9th year and he has by far taken then most contact at the position both legally and illegally. Not that surprising.
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Apr 18, 2019 17:57
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I'm surprised that Jonah dropped to me.
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Apr 18, 2019 18:14
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Diva Cupcake posted:I can’t believe Cam is broken already. He hasn't even started throwing yet this year.
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Apr 18, 2019 18:32
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FizFashizzle posted:He hasn't even started jerking yet this year.
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Grier is 100% acceptable in the 2nd Yeah, he's better than Jones, who will probably be drafted #6 overall.
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Sad King Billy posted:I'm surprised that Jonah dropped to me. Taylor Rapp is a steal here, I don't care what his 40 time was
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Apr 18, 2019 18:50
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Grier has a noodle tho
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Amy Pole Her posted:Grier has a noodle tho He's Derek Carr, essentially
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Amy Pole Her posted:Grier has a noodle tho So do Jimmy G and Brady. It doesn't matter for some offenses.
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Grier is 100% acceptable in the 2nd I know 0 about this man, please tell me more.
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So, I generally don't love giving bad draft takes credence, but man does Matt Miller have some incredible bullshit this year: - Argues Dwayne Haskins has ideal technique and subpar arm strength. That is literally the opposite of Dwayne Haskins, considering he has a loving howitzer but frequently just doesn't do poo poo with his feet that would make things easier. Like, his arm motion grades out fine-ish. He's not going to gently caress up in the short game, but he'll get loopy and weird 12+ yards downfield at times. The biggest issue is that he's just never had to get good with his feet because of the way Day built that passing game to abuse the fact that Haskins can drop it on a dime anywhere within like 10 yards from any angle. Like, your project with Haskins is fixing his feet, and he's probably about a league average QB at that point, considering he gets coverages and protections but occasionally trusts his arm too much. Pro Comparison of Carson Palmer, who had a loving howitzer for an arm and mediocre technique as well, which doesn't actually match the scouting report he wrote for Haskins as swell - Compares Daniel Jones to Ryan Tannehill. Jones, if it weren't for Haskins, is the worst mover in the draft and has a bad bad bad arm outside of about 5 yards. Tannehill is physically talented but had no loving ability to work within an offense at all. Jones is literally going to get drafted for football smarts, which is the one thing Tannehill has never had. - Stidtham over Grier or even Finley is some galaxy brain poo poo. Dude literally could not run the most basic offense in the world consistently and openly hosed up his pre-snap reads in like half of the passing downs. Miller explains that away as not trusting his O-line, but that doesn't hold water when you consider he's only being asked to call one of about 4-5 protections in that offense, and Lindsay's changes to the system openly put those responsibilities on the QB instead of the C. If you look at his tape from his freshman year at Baylor, you can see similar issues where he just completely fails to make a call in time and misses a huge opportunity as a result. Some NFL QB coach is going to have a field day with him. - Puts Tyree Jackson ahead of Grier despite Jackson being maybe the biggest project QB I've ever seen in a draft--like if you mashed Logan Thomas, Ryan Lindley, and Cardale in a blender. Like, you can take his top 10 QB profiles in there, and over half of those write-ups have no loving basis in reality.
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BlindSite posted:I know 0 about this man, please tell me more.
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I actually like Daniel Jones a lot and I don't think he's that bad on deep balls.
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Doltos posted:I actually like Daniel Jones a lot and I don't think he's that bad on deep balls. Every time his name comes up it screams career backup to me. That might have upside in that he comes in for a few games and looks ok and you swindle another team into trading for him.. I can't really put into words why I have this reaction, but I do.
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Grittybeard posted:Every time his name comes up it screams career backup to me. That might have upside in that he comes in for a few games and looks ok and you swindle another team into trading for him.. Because history has shown that obvious non-premier QBs that drop out of the top 10 turn into career backups. Problem with that is it creates a false narrative that you should only take top 10 QBs. Same arguments when people claim you shouldn't take WRs or HBs in the top ten because you can find them later on in the draft, ignoring the fact that you can also find every other position late in the draft. It also assumes that every batch of players are consistent to the previous years. Average combine numbers have gone up across the board every year since they started recording them. Kids are coming out every year better and stronger due to the advances in nutrition, exercise, and training. Daniel Jones throws a good ball. The best you can ask is for a player to look good fundamentally and hope that it transitions to the NFL. Otherwise you're hoping they all have that latent knack that separates the physical freaks from the people who are actually good at the game too.
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I don't understand why Dexter Lawrence isn't getting more buzz higher in the draft than he has. Haloti Ngata, BJ Raji, Dontari Poe, Star Lotulelei, Danny Shelton, and Vita Vea all went between #9 and #14. As prospects go, I think he's certainly better than the average on those guys. Maybe it's due to a glut on the DL and he's a bit of a specialized talent, but for team like the Dolphins who are going to want to two gap a guy almost every down and distance I think there's a good chance he's high on their list.
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Doltos posted:I actually like Daniel Jones a lot and I don't think he's that bad on deep balls. You'd better like him because lol https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/1119322733941272577
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Diva Cupcake posted:You'd better like him because lol petition to launch myself to mars
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corn on the cop posted:petition to launch myself to mars Start a QB jersey starting with Eli.
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Doltos posted:Because history has shown that obvious non-premier QBs that drop out of the top 10 turn into career backups. I thought he was literally talking about the name "Daniel Jones" screaming career backup, haha
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