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totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.

Pollyanna posted:

Dad took exactly one bath. Mom refused and was extremely confused with the non-western shower/bathtub room.

How hard can a bathroom be.

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d0s
Jun 28, 2004

the place we stayed at was not a luxury place (it was more that it was super old, family run) and was full of japanese, I think we were some of the only white folks there (e: and there were zero chinese :v:). It wasn't really near a lot of the tourist stuff. my friend picked it and is super into this stuff as you seem to be and talked about all that. I'm not saying everything in hakone is like that but not everything is what you're describing either

EDIT: Though yeah, I'm not sure that there was anything special about the water. neither of us really care about onsen too much so we didn't pick it on that basis. we picked it because it was a cool old place in a beautiful location with a reputation for legit good food and there was other stuff we wanted to see in hakone. I'm gonna get the name from my friend when I get the chance and post it

d0s fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Apr 20, 2019

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

actually found pics from there (from 2016)







mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!
i extremely don't understand what there is to be confused about wrt japanese bathrooms

mirror123
Jan 17, 2006
rice barrel

Is this the tv that Sadako crawled out of.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


ntan1 posted:

uh that part is you not knowing what is meant by a ryokan

Fair :downs:

mirror123 posted:

Is this the tv that Sadako crawled out of.

Jesus, it really kinda looks like it.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


mikeycp posted:

i extremely don't understand what there is to be confused about wrt japanese bathrooms

:downs: You need to be careful not to get water on the floor, first get in the bathtub, then take the shower head off the wall and wash yourself. They have a stool or something but I didn’t use it.

:v: That sounds incorrect mom.

And it was.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Get naked with mommy and wash her back

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


She will loathe me forever. Mom hates being naked. In fact, she brought a swimsuit for the onsen. When we corrected her she absolutely refused to go until dad managed to cajole her into it. Then refused again when she learned that dad wouldn’t be with her.

Why does everything be one about my parents? Oh right, cuz they’re nuts.

zmcnulty
Jul 26, 2003

If you asked your parents to rate the place you stayed, how many stars out of five would they give it? You recognize that a lot of what happened may have been self-inflicted, and a lot of blame falls to your parents for being what sounds like pretty typical older gaijin travelers. And yet right here in this thread you conclude that you didn't feel Hakone was worth it. How do you even find a ryokan that has a no-dinner option? Perhaps it was a minshuku. Or did you deliberately skip it?

This is why the restaurant scores and rankings on TripAdvisor are different from the scores on Tabelog.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


zmcnulty posted:

If you asked your parents to rate the place you stayed, how many stars out of five would they give it? You recognize that a lot of what happened may have been self-inflicted, and a lot of blame falls to your parents for being what sounds like pretty typical older gaijin travelers. And yet right here in this thread you conclude that you didn't feel Hakone was worth it. How do you even find a ryokan that has a no-dinner option? Perhaps it was a minshuku. Or did you deliberately skip it?

This is why the restaurant scores and rankings on TripAdvisor are different from the scores on Tabelog.

I unfortunately don’t know - I didn’t handle picking and reserving it. Suffice to say that we’re gaijin dumbasses including me :shrug:

Also I’m gonna stop posting about my parents, what I’m doing is kinda really hosed up.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


My dad has visited me in Japan 4 times and has still never used a washlet or public bath because ??? He's not quite as bad as those guys who don't wipe because touching (their own) man's butthole is gay, but… kinda…

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




I booked a ryokan without a dinner option cause we are unsure if we want to do it or not. :shrug:

BB2K
Oct 9, 2012
Onsens/public baths loving rock but I can get the reticence to try one for the first time, especially with older relatives who've never been to a non-western country

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




BB2K posted:

Onsens/public baths loving rock but I can get the reticence to try one for the first time, especially with older relatives who've never been to a non-western country

I'm seriously looking forward to this much more than I ever thought I would.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
e: nvm

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Apr 20, 2019

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

peanut posted:

My dad has visited me in Japan 4 times and has still never used a washlet or public bath because ??? He's not quite as bad as those guys who don't wipe because touching (their own) man's butthole is gay, but… kinda…

When we got back from Japan I ordered a washlet and installed it the next weekend because after two and a half weeks in Japan I just couldn't handle not having one anymore.

paberu
Jun 23, 2013

Doctor Zero posted:

When we got back from Japan I ordered a washlet and installed it the next weekend because after two and a half weeks in Japan I just couldn't handle not having one anymore.

I was pretty surprised that you can just order a US version Toto on Amazon that easily installs in place of the existing seat.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Washlets/bidet are amazing for 〜menstruation〜

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
I discussed installing a washlet in my bathroom with Dad and he said it would lower the property value of my house

America :rolleyes:

Shemp the Stooge
Feb 23, 2001

Pththya-lyi posted:

I discussed installing a washlet in my bathroom with Dad and he said it would lower the property value of my house

America :rolleyes:

It's just the seat, you can remove it.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Pththya-lyi posted:

I discussed installing a washlet in my bathroom with Dad and he said it would lower the property value of my house

America :rolleyes:

if this is true america really is a terrible country

ntan1
Apr 29, 2009

sempai noticed me

d0s posted:

the place we stayed at was not a luxury place (it was more that it was super old, family run) and was full of japanese, I think we were some of the only white folks there (e: and there were zero chinese :v:). It wasn't really near a lot of the tourist stuff. my friend picked it and is super into this stuff as you seem to be and talked about all that. I'm not saying everything in hakone is like that but not everything is what you're describing either

Oh sweet you got good advice :)

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

Shemp the Stooge posted:

It's just the seat, you can remove it.

Isn't there also an electrical hookup I - and the potential homebuyer - would have to worry about too? I know pretty much nothing about home improvement, so I'm just going by what Dad says. It may also be true that his Boomerness is influencing his judgment.

mikeycp posted:

if this is true america really is a terrible country

Land of the free, home of the dirty butthole

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008
Why are white people so incredibly brokebrained about being naked

paberu
Jun 23, 2013

Pththya-lyi posted:

Isn't there also an electrical hookup I - and the potential homebuyer - would have to worry about too? I know pretty much nothing about home improvement, so I'm just going by what Dad says. It may also be true that his Boomerness is influencing his judgment.

It has a normal wall plug, so depending where the nearest one is you'll have to run an extension cord and hide it/neatly pin it to skirting. Apart from that it just slides into the seat plug holes, clamps down and then you just run a splitting cable to your water hook up to the toilet tank. If you end up selling the house... you just remove it and stick the original seat back on.

For how germophobic americans are (everyone has that small purell bottle) it amazes me that washlets aren't a standard mcmansion feature.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

LimburgLimbo posted:

Why are white people so incredibly brokebrained about being naked

Jesus was never naked so we can't be either

Also yes washlets are just a wall plug

Xad
Jul 2, 2009

"Either Sonic is God, or could kill God, and I do not care if there is a difference!"

College Slice

LimburgLimbo posted:

Why are white people so incredibly brokebrained about being naked

Christianity probably?

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.

LimburgLimbo posted:

Why are white people so incredibly brokebrained about being naked

Puritans.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

I've been to Hakone 3 times and I enjoy it a lot. We went there with our dog to a ryokan that accepts them and which had a nice little private onsen outside that you could book and sit in together. The day we went there there was a horrible storm and we were completely soaked and cold when we arrived, onsen felt like heaven after that.

zmcnulty
Jul 26, 2003

I drunkenly bought my dad a regular JDM washlet for his house in the US, despite having no knowledge of how it might be impacted by things like differing standards in electricity or water connectors.
He managed to get it working -- added a new outlet near the toilet -- so it's not impossible. However he does regularly email me pictures of the remote asking for translations of the buttons

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!
buy a label maker and make labels to go over the japanese

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!
so looks like we're doing nov 8-13 in kansai (undecided if base camp will be kyoto or osaka), 14-16 on the kumano kodo, shink to onomichi on the 16th, shimanami kaido on the 17th, and shikoku until the 23rd when we have to get back to osaka to get to kix on the 24th

unless it would be easy to get from shikoku to kix by 530 pm on the day of our flight?

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


We have some interest in getting a hanko while we’re here. Anyone here who doesn’t live in Japan try getting one before? Is it an application or just buying it?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


There are tourist focused hanko shops that'll make you whatever while you wait, just google 'em.

Blackchamber
Jan 25, 2005

I didnt know what a Hanko was... so googled this. Says 3 days for a registered one with an option for payment on delivery... or yeah go to a shop that does em.

https://tokyocheapo.com/shopping-2/hanko-japanese-personal-seals/

EDIT: I might do this, but the cheap Donkey machine one as a souvenir.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!
there's literally no reason to get a registered one if you're not going to live in japan

ntan1
Apr 29, 2009

sempai noticed me
i went to the local remodeling sink/toilet store in the us and they had a bunch of toto toilets and I was trying to see which one I liked.

thanks for listening.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!
the main issue with buying us toto washlets that as far as i can tell they only have the expensive models here

it was still over $100 less to buy the cheapest toshiba one and have it shipped back than to buy the cheapest domestically available one

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Archer666
Dec 27, 2008
Lol I managed to both be completely embarassed by the group of airbnb guys I was drinking with in Shinjuku, and to completely embarass myself by having a small alcohol inspired mental breakdown.

Vacations are great.

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