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I tried to think of anything in North Korean political history analogous to the rise of Trump, but came up short.
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sexpig by night posted:I mean to be fair finding out the leader of one of your biggest enemies is suddenly a senile dipshit is probably kinda jarring. It's like Luke found out Palpatine was actually a confused old man in a bathrobe, you're gonna spend some time all 'wait is he loving with me?' I think the DPRK has experience with senile dipship leaders. Not necessarily dealing with them on the other side of the table, though. Halloween Jack posted:I tried to think of anything in North Korean political history analogous to the rise of Trump, but came up short. Mao.
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Warbadger posted:I think the DPRK has experience with senile dipship leaders. Not necessarily dealing with them on the other side of the table, though. yea I think the Kim regime may not be used to being on this side of things
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Apr 18, 2019 23:53
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LOL @ Kim playing 5 dimensional chess against Trump seriously.
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Apr 19, 2019 00:13
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Lum_ posted:North Koreans have approached reporters in the US trying to understand Trump, so, no, probably not
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sexpig by night posted:https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1118632394561605632 OhFunny posted:I wonder what's behind the resumption of tough talk. I'd have thought Kim would want to cruise quietly along since Trump hasn't been paying attention.
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Apr 19, 2019 04:39
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OneEightHundred posted:
if that gets pompeo and bolton fired my feelings about it will require an exceptionally German word to describe
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Apr 19, 2019 04:45
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sexpig by night posted:I mean to be fair finding out the leader of one of your biggest enemies is suddenly a senile dipshit is probably kinda jarring. It's like Luke found out Palpatine was actually a confused old man in a bathrobe, you're gonna spend some time all 'wait is he loving with me?' The Last Jedi was so bad people keep writing better versions of it by accident.
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Apr 19, 2019 05:04
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I had a question regarding potential missile launches in 2020. Lately, many experts on Twitter believe that if sanctions aren't lifted by the end, North Korea will go back to test launching missiles Why would they do that and risk provoking Trump, especially when he has loving dementia and is a certified psychopath? Because everyone I mention this, no one ever explains the reasoning
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Apr 19, 2019 19:51
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You can't invade NK. NK and Iran, their terrain are very difficult to invade. And America has lost all land wars in Asia.
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Apr 19, 2019 20:06
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Trump is crazy but also a coward who's afraid of consequences. They had to hold his hand and kiss his rear end over a weekend to get him to launch missiles at an empty base in the desert. The idea of invading anywhere would probably cause him to lock himself in a bathroom for a while. Way more likely is him petulantly throwing a fit about Bolton being mean to him and ordering all the international bases closed. He has apparently tried to do this already and he's shown zero interest in anything like a war.OneEightHundred posted:They're sending Trump gushing letters while blasting Pompeo and Bolton because they want Trump to blame them for talks going sour and cut them out of the picture. That would be pretty brilliant if so.
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Apr 19, 2019 20:54
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tino posted:You can't invade NK. NK and Iran, their terrain are very difficult to invade. Like, are we sticking to the continent here and excluding the islands, or what?
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Apr 19, 2019 22:32
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tino posted:You can't invade NK. NK and Iran, their terrain are very difficult to invade. It would be extremely easy for a force the size of the US military to invade and conquer North Korea even without South Korean aid.
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Apr 20, 2019 01:01
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chitoryu12 posted:It would be extremely easy for a force the size of the US military to invade and conquer North Korea even without South Korean aid. As long as China didn't get involved it would be doable with South Korean aid if you were willing to get some cities nuked. So not desirable in any case.
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Apr 20, 2019 01:23
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Charlz Guybon posted:A ridiculous statement. That would be logistically impossible. Have you ever heard of cruise missiles or jets? Because im pretty sure a bombing campaign of North Korean infrastructure would create mass exodus to china (chinsa would hate this by the way) so it is highly doubtful we will go past poo poo talking political back and forth, so while I agree with you on the china portion it is doubtful we couldnt bankroll an occupation/invasion of a mostly ill armed police state.
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Apr 20, 2019 05:51
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Kind of the whole thing is that while NK would be easy for the US to topple, the resulting humanitarian crisis would cripple pretty much every neighbouring country and leave the US a pariah in the region forever. The Kims know this.
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Apr 20, 2019 09:27
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Depending on a war went, especially if the Seoul metro area was not targeted heavily, would the big corporations in the Republic of Korea really be hurt that much? They would benefit greatly from government money in rebuilding, since they are the only ones with realistically the resources to do it quickly and then in the long term you have a large population to pay relatively little to help build electronics and other exports without having to worry about intellectual property theft.
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Apr 20, 2019 09:39
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Kind of the whole thing is that while NK would be easy for the US to topple, the resulting humanitarian crisis would cripple pretty much every neighbouring country and leave the US a pariah in the region forever. The Kims know this. You mean they would be ( which I am doubtful) if they weren’t backed but backed by China and had a bunch of increasingly high yield nuclear weapons.
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Apr 20, 2019 15:22
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Ardennes posted:You mean they would be ( which I am doubtful) if they weren’t backed but backed by China and had a bunch of increasingly high yield nuclear weapons. The China backing is doubtful when push comes to shove (but again that's probably more because of the abovementioned thread of a refugee crisis that China does not want to deal with) but the latter is fair, and entirely sensible on NK's part given that it's clear even under a supposedly peaceful President the USA has no qualms about sending a nation into chaos based on petty grudges or political whims.
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Apr 20, 2019 15:24
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The China backing is doubtful when push comes to shove (but again that's probably more because of the abovementioned thread of a refugee crisis that China does not want to deal with) but the latter is fair, and entirely sensible on NK's part given that it's clear even under a supposedly peaceful President the USA has no qualms about sending a nation into chaos based on petty grudges or political whims. There is really no reason for China not to get involved especially if the US tries to encroach on their borders, and honestly China would probably win a conventional war (considering the proximity to China and the advances they have made). Also, there is the whole Seoul issue and that SK population wants to go completely in the opposite direction. Generally, it seems to be a assessment based on around the situation of the mid-late 1990s.
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Apr 20, 2019 15:33
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All right, I get that Trump is a coward, but they take North Korean propaganda way too seriously Plus, comments like these don't help their credibility https://twitter.com/NarangVipin/status/1119628017624653825 https://twitter.com/NarangVipin/status/1119629373341085696 Yeah dipshit, compare the Democrats to loving JOHN BOLTON of all people
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Apr 25, 2019 01:23
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https://twitter.com/NuclearAnthro/status/1121211052283191296 Yeah, gently caress these people
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Apr 25, 2019 01:47
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tino posted:You can't invade NK. NK and Iran, their terrain are very difficult to invade.
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Apr 25, 2019 03:37
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North Korea is too difficult to invade, which is why China intervened in the Korean War for the hell of it instead of because of UN troops dangerously close to the Chinese border... oh wait it turns out invasions of the North were indeed quite possible.
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Apr 25, 2019 03:50
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https://twitter.com/tictoc/status/1121448801946959872?s=19 Art of the Deal baby!
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Apr 25, 2019 18:46
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Trump paying bills. 
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Apr 25, 2019 20:20
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fishmech posted:North Korea is too difficult to invade, which is why China intervened in the Korean War for the hell of it instead of because of UN troops dangerously close to the Chinese border... oh wait it turns out invasions of the North were indeed quite possible. The United States military circa 1950 was actually designed around invading places and there was a draft in place to insure we didn't run out of warm bodies. I have comparably little confidence that today's military, which is designed mostly around facilitating graft, could accomplish a similar feat.
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Apr 26, 2019 04:40
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Some Guy TT posted:The United States military circa 1950 was actually designed around invading places and there was a draft in place to insure we didn't run out of warm bodies. Yes in the year 2019 we have those too: they're called "Republic of Korea Army".
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Apr 26, 2019 04:49
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Some Guy TT posted:The United States military circa 1950 was actually designed around invading places and there was a draft in place to insure we didn't run out of warm bodies. I have comparably little confidence that today's military, which is designed mostly around facilitating graft, could accomplish a similar feat. Americans are addicted to the idea of land wars in east Asia. One of my coworkers unironically believes that Americans would be greeted as liberators if they stormed ashore in Shanghai.
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Remind me again what your logic is for South Korea not being under American occupation. I'm curious how that squares with your flippant reference to their being our vassal state.
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Apr 26, 2019 04:56
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There is a factor that there are over a million Chinese citizens in the Republic of Korea. If the US and Republic of Korea agree to help evacuate those civilians in exchange for something fron China, things could be drastically different.
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Apr 26, 2019 05:04
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Some Guy TT posted:Remind me again what your logic is for South Korea not being under American occupation. They're not under occupation. Some Guy TT posted:I'm curious how that squares with your flippant reference to their being our vassal state. Weird strawman.
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Apr 26, 2019 05:19
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Nice low effort post.
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Apr 26, 2019 06:19
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Some Guy TT posted:Remind me again what your logic is for South Korea not being under American occupation. "South Korea is under American occupation" makes as much sense as saying that the gold fringe on the flag makes it an admiralty court.
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Apr 26, 2019 12:22
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It's adorable to consider the US presence in SK an "occupation", you could even refer to no official end to the Korean War if you wanted - but SK has come a long way from the vassal state it arguably was during the 50s.
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Apr 26, 2019 12:32
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South Korea is not under occupation, which is why their military defers to US command and why you can get arrested for criticizing either the South Korean or American governments under the National Security Law.
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My comment was directed at fishmech referring to South Korean soldiers as if they were a functionally unlimited source of cannon fodder for American foreign policy whims. In case you want to, you know, try reading things in context.
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I don’t know who you are, but you’re always a boiling, white hot sphere of outrage. Chill out and come to Mapo-gu man, there’s some good rear end beer and pizza here. You know most Koreans are not like, this pissed off about their country right? Also the national security law is bullshit and mostly used to make google maps work and I think censor my porn
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Also the reason why American troops got so far North was because North Korea's frontline and military basically disintegrated after the landings on Incheon and American forces were basically unopposed. Mountains aren't a big deal if no one is properly defending it. Contrast American advances after Incheon to the stalemate after recapturing Seoul; American and UN forces couldn't budge the Chinese and North Koreans from that very same terrain once it was defended in depth no matter how many calories in energy expenditure from overwhelming firepower was thrown at them. Pedantic rebuttals is bad enough but wrong pedantic rebuttals are even more odious.
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Heer98 posted:You know most Koreans are not like, this pissed off about their country right? They might be if they met more Americans that talked like fishmech. Thankfully most of the Americans around here find chiller things to discuss over pizza and beer. Were you talking about Big Boy or is there another pizza place I should know about?
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