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Jack-Off Lantern
Mar 2, 2012

Kemix posted:

I didn't know these existed and I want one. God that's adorable.

A friend of mine has one, he's a good doggo. Expensive but good

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Zagglezig
Oct 16, 2012
Every now and then, something out of Japan includes someone in a butterfly mask and they're almost always campy and fantastic to see. :allears:


The Dark Id posted:

Also, I'm little caught up what the hell is a "submarine"?

I'd be pretty into seeing Blanca done a big think fur coat

Having the whole party gain it and having the option to flee the battle we'd have to REALLY be loving up to get in that situation does exactly sound worthy of an accessory slot.

an assort of what can only be referred to as cartoonishly shady goons walk down

Guessing, the first should be "caught up on" and second is "don". Third seems like it should be "doesn't", though the whole sentence is a bit awkward, as is. Might work better as "We'd have to REALLY be loving up to get in a situation where the whole party gains it and having the option to flee that battle doesn't exactly sound worthy of an accessory slot."

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?
Yeah I honestly couldn't parse that third sentence.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



The Dark Id posted:

Episode XVI : The Bandit of Le Harve



Just a sec here, gotta hoist up this full coffin left earlier on the scene.


Are you sure that's a coffin? It looks like a couple of wooden beams tied and stapled together.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
it's the pauper special

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Kurtofan posted:

it's the pauper special
crushing somebody flat to fit between to large pieces of wood seems liked it'd be more expensive than just getting a normal coffin, though.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer
They just tie them up in whatever industrial accident killed them

DiggleWrath
Aug 30, 2018

O O
>

Zereth posted:

crushing somebody flat to fit between to large pieces of wood seems liked it'd be more expensive than just getting a normal coffin, though.

You're just not motivated enough (or possibly not unmotivated enough) if you think you can't stuff a dead body in a coffin that small.

Req.Martyr
May 4, 2016

I don't go by my caste, creed, or religion. My works speak for me.

DiggleWrath posted:

You're just not motivated enough (or possibly not unmotivated enough) if you think you can't stuff a dead body in a coffin that small.

There's a reason you measure volume in litres

The Dark Id
Aug 13, 2005

Why
you
know
I
LOVE
THIS SHIT !!!!
[citation needed]
Episode XVII: Grand Papillon - Friend of All Children!



Yuri and the gang... aren't quite sure to make of all this new nonsense. But they aren't given too long to dwell on it, because...




Music: Vicious 1915 ~ Battle in Europe




It's immediately time to take on Grand Papillon!! I'm contractually obligated by NJPW to add the two exclamation marks when addressing Grand Papillon!! This burly goofball is a 355 HP packing Earth elemental enemy.



Related: "Papillon" just means "butterfly." Hence the mask he is wearing and all... But while double checking because my French is atrocious at best, I found it is ALSO a French breed of toy spaniels having a long, silky coat and large, erect ears held so they resemble the wings of a butterfly. So that's fun to learn.





To counter this Earth class wrestler, we'll have Yuri give the Malakia Fusion a trial run.





From there, we'll have him use Howling a 7-hit Wind elemental spell that... is making donuts. That's like a fifth of his health gone in one turn.



While we're there, we'll have Karin use her Sword Arts...



...and Blanca with his Soul Comet. Both of those Combo with Howling pretty well if we want a bit of extra damage alongside Yuri's attacks.





Meanwhile, we can have Gepetto pitch in with support in buffing Yuri's Special Attack Power with Surge. Not that he really needs it, but hey. Buffs are fun!



You may have noticed Grand Papillon!! hasn't been mentioned much yet. That is because he is S-L-O-W as far as turns go. As in he got like three this entire fight... and the third turn was mostly from fluffing about to see his abilities. He DOES hit like a truck for this point in the game though, doing in excess of around 50 HP of damage in a combo which includes suplexing his coffin on someone's head. Poor Gepetto in this case.





But that's fine. Remember, we gave Gepetto a cure spell and that more or less instantly negates any damage the early portion of the game. We'll have him on heal support the rest of this brisk fight.





Grand Papillon's only other ability, after he takes a sufficient amount of damage, is Drain Touch which does a comparable amount of damage as his main combo. However this one...



...heals him for the same amount of damage. Thankfully, he only seems to utilize this once. It's worth noting that this was also the default ability of Shadow Hearts 1's bored vampire party member, Keith Valentine. Hmm...





I failed!

In any event, that's about all there is to the Grand Papillon battle. Those muscles are impressive but you are against a guy that punched out a god. And go completely de-leveled, but that's beside the point.


Music: Result ~ Victory




What a waste of time...



Yuri points to the Wrestlemania sign following his victory against Grand Papillon!!


NEW Music: Gathering God ~ Thrill
(Theme of This Game Might be Way More Goofy Than Its Predecessors.)



Following his defeat, Grand Papillon transforms into a... golden bat... Wait...



Huh...?



Hehehehe! You pack a pretty good punch! Time for me to go now, kids. We'll meet again!

The Golden Bat flies off into the night.



H-he turned into a bat...
Aw...roo...?



Well, he's certainly good at runnin' away.
...Hmm. I'm sure I've met him before...
I've GOT to stop spacing out during character sidequests...

The next day...


Music: Town of Twilight ~ European Town




...He changed into a bat?! What a very odd character, indeed! But you people must be awfully good to drive the great Grand Papillon off! I'm truly impressed with all of you!
.........
The multitude of ellipses truly shows your dedication, sir.
...

<turns to Cole> Okay, Cole. Show these people to the shop. Get this over with quickly.
Yes, Mayor.

Cole approaches Yuri and the others.



<nods> Fine.



The bandit changed into a bat? Sounds like some kind of magic trick.
The ref should have called that out.
All right, folks. Hurry up and catch that bandit, you hear? And you'll be handsomely rewarded!
We're talking a Money in the Bank match here.
Ehh... Any of you getting these references?
...They're making references?
Awroo! (You've not earned a hot tag from me.)
You're just imagining things.
OK...




As Cole the Vigilante Leader asked, we need to cross Le Havre again to the south end. Where...



What did you want us to come here for?
You gonna buy us a meal or something?
Joint was closed last time we were here. Who doesn't open for lunch...?
Shhh! Look at that.
Hmm?

The party looks toward the bar at the end of the area.



No. That's the name of the tavern! Not that. Look there!
How do you even read that from this angle?
Just because I'm wearing glasses doesn't mean my eyes are shot.
...I mean like physically.


A door opens.

Huh?!

A large, blonde dreadlocked man and a couple of children exit the tavern and converse.



Hmm. I just know I've seen that guy somewhere before...
For some reason the color blue is coming up in my head... I dunno. This is gonna bug me all day...



If you know where he is and who he is, why don't you guys catch him yourself?
.........
G-Gotta keep kayfabe...
It's what creative wants this storyline.

<turns away> ...Um, good luck, now!
Hey!
<turns back> We're counting on you! We know you can do it! Bye-bye!

Cole and the Mayor split the scene.



What do you wanna do? Wanna close in?
Hmm, something's odd... If he really was such a big, bad bandit, would little kids be hanging around with him?
Are... are we the baddies?
Awroo! (I cannot believe I signed up with the NWO.)

But we already took half the money.

Yuri starts walking toward Grand Papillon.



Let's at least try talking to him, anyway.
Worst that happens is we have another kinda easy mid-boss fight.
...I suppose.




Hi, there!

Music: ENDS. The party enters the tavern.



But Joachim isn't a thief!
Yeah, now get outta here!
<puts his hands forward to relax them> Okay, okay! Just relax! Don't get so worked up!
Let's just talk this through... did I meet you in like Prague once...? No, that's not right...



I don't know what the mayor told you, but...
<enters fighting stance> I'll never let you take us alive...
Whoa! Whoa... That seems like a big decision for you to make on your own, Joachim...
Huh... So, you're just... always like this, eh...?
My fighting spirit cannot be broken!




<concerned grunt> Tell me why you're stealing and causing so much trouble in the town.
...And why you turned into a bat. W-what was that about? Yuri, you can't do that, right?
Not recently. Used to be able to turn into a kind of bat... man. Does that count?
...Forget I asked.


The door opens behind Yuri and Karin.



Joachim is protecting the store and the children from the mayor and his cronies.

A short while later...


Music: Memories of Melodies ~ Peace




<laughter>
Hey!
The store?



It's my treasure, I'm afraid. The mayor wants to get his hands on it.
<exchange looks like they're getting into some bullshit>
Oh yeah? What is this treasure, anyway?
The deed to this store.



Three months ago, on his deathbed... the man who built this store told me about a treasure buried beneath here.
Treasure. ...Is it really true?
Well, I've been living here for 30 years, and that was the first I'd heard of it. But ever since, they've been bullying me to get me to give up the store.
But I've been getting sauced every day since noon for fifty years so... maybe?



<exchange a look>
So the vigilante group?
...We're the baddies, huh?



<nods> Yes, that's right.
<motions to Joachim> So that's why Grand Papillon?
Right again.
And you're always like this, huh?
<knowing smirk> You already know the answer.




...Huh...
......
Should we go and take back the money?
<shrugs> Ehh... Sure, why not.
...I don't want to be the baddies.
...What she said.



Music: Town of Twilight ~ European Town






We can take a brief look around the nicely detailed for a PS2 game Mouette de mer. But there's nothing to be done here other than a brief chat with Granny Lot. Also learning here name is Granny Lot, I suppose. :v:





Thus, we trek once more across the port city's three map screens to find the Mayor and his entire goon entourage hanging out in front of their mansion. That's probably not a great sign.





<steps forward and returns the Mayor's money>
What? What's the meaning of this?
<shakes head> We changed our minds. Sorry, but we quit the vigilante group.
Hey! Are you guys going back on your word?!
No, we just found out the truth, that's all. And you're the ones who are in the wrong here!
You're the baddies! Not us... except briefly. I've already deserted the German army I can't be involved with this!
<shakes fists> Arghhh! And I almost had my hands on that treasure too! Don't think you'll be leaving here alive! ...Cole!
...You're supposed to like deny you're a dirtbag and say there's been a misunderstanding. Y'all are bad at this.
Men, take care of 'em!




Music: Vicious 1915 ~ Battle in Europe




Time to take on two Fat Thugs and three standard addition Thugs. They have 38 HP and 41 HP respectively. Don't worry about their elements.







In theory, if left alone these thugs can form up for massive combos against a single target by... well, just kind of smacking them with a 2x4 piece of wood several times in a row. But they manage some crazy air combos doing it.





In practice, the party effortlessly curbstomps the lot of them before they can even act.


Music: Result ~ Victory




Keep your eyes where they belong.



Karin, this quote and your outfit... I'm just saying. You can't have it both ways. I'm barely scrubbing footage I recorded for screenshots and I already have it ingrained you also are wearing bright blue panties under the rest of that awful outfit because it's there every instant you animate. Why are you like this?


Music: Vicious 1915 ~ Battle in Europe




He he he... No...!
What do you mean "no"?!
...That broad jumped twenty feet in the air and blew up three of my men. You are not paying me enough for this.

You ready for some more?
No! We, uh...
Fine. We're leaving.
Yes, yes. Fine...

Gepetto, Karin, and Yuri leave the scene.



Blanca stays behind briefly to tell them what for!



Guy without a character portrait vows revenge. This will definitely go his way if he tries.





Now that we have left the Vigilante Group via acing like two-thirds of the local mafia thugs on the way out the door, everyone has another round of refreshed dialogue on our way back to Joachim and Granny Lot.



He was studying under that odd wrestling teacher that used to live here, but then the teacher left on some trip...
Geez... was it Rouen where that sidequest was with that bat...? No... No, that's not right either. This is still bugging the heck out of me.



Come to think of it, I haven't seen those hooligans around...
Yeah, they're dead...
...Oh.
...I got like eight Soul Energy. I'm pretty happy with the result.




Ah... right. There was a downside to morality...



Got the mayor to see things our way.
I don't think he'll bother you anymore. We gave him a good talking to.
Most of those vigilantes have... disbanded.
...That's one way to put it.

Really?! That's great! Come on in and rest, everybody.

A short while later. Granny Lot comes running up to the group.



What's the matter, Granny?! What happened?
The children!! Yuma and John!
Who now?
The children that were here!
...They had names?
Of course, you fools!

Calm down, Granny! What happened to the children?
The vigilante group... Those hooligans took them! They said if we wanted them back, we had to bring the deed to the wine cellar!
<stunned gasp>
Are you serious?!
Those scum...
We can't let them get away with this, now, can we? We should help.
Awroo, awroo!
You bet. Of course we'll help!



Also helping: Our newest party member -- Joachim!





Now that we have more than four party members, we need to start deciding who will be on the active party. It's none too useful right now but Shadow Hearts: Covenant actually lets the player assign up to three different teams of party members as the situation warrants that can be quickly swapped from the (between battle) menu. For now, both Joachim and Yuri and mandatory members of the party. Karin and Blanca will also be joining us for the next stretch of the game. Sorry, Gepetto. You're just too drat fragile HP wise right now. Blanca is going to be inheriting your support role duties.





By the way, our new large boy here is Joachim Valentine. Yes, he was the Golden Bat from the character sidequest of Shadow Hearts 1's endgame. Yes, he is also Keith Valentine's brother. One through-line of all three Shadow Hearts game is having a Valentine sibling party member. Also, by the way, he's a vampire. His sole MUSCLE ART at the moment is the Drain Touch we saw during the mid-boss fight against his Grand Papillon persona. It's a 20 MP HP drain. Joachythms another ability we yet to have access to at the moment.





Joachim also comes with some unique (at the moment) equipment. Like this giant piece of timber meant to look like a huge coffin as his melee weapon. Joachim has a... unique class of weapons that are itself its own sidequest. That's getting ahead of us...



Heavy Metal manifested way earlier in the Shadow Hearts timeline and Joachim is at the forefront annihilating people in mosh pits.



Also, a bracelet to prevent paralysis. Nobody likes to see a botched wrestling move except in Youtube compilations.





That all said, that concludes our time in the first visit to Le Havre. Tune in next time as our adventures continue to France's Wine Cellar. They just have one huge one in this universe. Don't ask... As Shadow Hearts: Covenant continues!



That was a short chapter but a LOT did happen, really. So...



Monsters:



The kid from ICO grew up rough.



Perhaps the darkest monster entry of all.

Characters:



Same.



To be fair, Yuri just stood and stared into the middle distance during that whole sidequest. Although, Keith WAS introduced with a greedy mayor trying to steal treasure from a widow lady...



Since that's what you want to see when you go to a bar. Orphans.



Wait... Is Grand Papillon her Stand...?



He lost both his parents and a character portrait in the war. Seriously, he's like one of the only Characters entries that doesn't get one. What an unloved cretin of an orphan.




Video: Episode 17 Highlight Reel
(You should watch Grand Papillon!! in action!)





Fat Thug Concept Art - What it says on the label...

The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Apr 20, 2019

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Everything about Joachim is good and nothing is bad.

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?
Once I was able to use Joachim, I ejected Gepetto from my party forever. Joachim is just too good and Gepetto is awful. Gepetto is the Zhouzen of Covenant.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord
Joachim was a party mainstay for me too.

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.
Joachim alternated with another character we'll meet eventually as my fourth (after Yuri/Blanca/Karin).

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?
This ended up being my main party for most of the game; all four characters are great. There is a fifth character I would use a lot of the time once I got them but the other characters are all garbage. And, to be frank, the whole deal with Cornelia and her dresses is just super creepy. Just one more reason Gepetto needs to go.

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

Leraika posted:

Joachim alternated with another character we'll meet eventually as my fourth (after Yuri/Blanca/Karin).

We're probably talking about the same fifth character. Although I'd sometimes swap them in for Blanca or Karin. All five characters are so good that it can be tough to make a decision.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
diabetus is one of the worst status effect you can have

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
You mean to tell me the thugs with the scar and mafia pinstripe suits were actually just bad guys?
I am shocked I say.
Shocked.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.



I was really hoping that someone would notice the fangs on his character model here, but I guess a WWI-era French luchador vigilante is weird enough on his own for people not to look too closely.

ultrafilter fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Apr 19, 2019

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

...! posted:

but the other characters are all garbage.

I disagree heavily. Everybody's quite good in SH2 though some take a bit more effort in their quests to reach full potential.

CmdrKing
Oct 14, 2012

Maybe if I called it 'Interpretive Stabbing'...
Ehhhhhhh I dunno. Gepetto can be made good with proper Crest juggling, but he doesn't really stand out enough from the rest and they take way less effort. 6th PC would be better in a harder game but as is it's just completely overkill to use their skillset. 7th PC's abilities are WAY too backloaded.

Flip side, Karin and Blanca are kinda mediocre overall IF you take the effort to really max out any of those three because they're balanced PCs and Joachim is easy to slot into any party but if you went all in on mage builds for combo shenanigans he'd obviously lose out. So they're more obviously useful than Gepetto or the PCs we don't have yet, but they also aren't as easy to get more power out of.

Yuri's the only one who is good no matter how you want to play the game.

OminousEdge
Apr 4, 2013
Joachim is the best. Especially his sidequests. ALL Of them are probably the most amazing in the entire game.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Really don't think the Mayor thought attacking Yuri and friends through: He and his gang weren't strong enough to beat Joachim, the new group WAS strong enough to beat Joachim, so of course that group is going to be strong enough to beat HIM.

Dude really should have just taken the money back and avoided an rear end whooping.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

It took me this long to realize a greedy mayor trying to steal a shopkeep's treasure is exactly how Keith was introduced to us. ...I wonder if that was intentional.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
no one's turned into a zombie dog yet, at least.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Everyone in Covenant is at least usable. For me, my final party was Yuri/Karin/Joachim/8th (who is a lot better than most people seem to give them credit for), but Blanca, 6, 7, and Gepetto were rotated in and out as I saw fit, and all of them got some good time to shine.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


It's just not that hard of a game. Playing with your favorite characters, or rotate them around, or pretty much anything else you want to do will work.

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Really don't think the Mayor thought attacking Yuri and friends through: He and his gang weren't strong enough to beat Joachim, the new group WAS strong enough to beat Joachim, so of course that group is going to be strong enough to beat HIM.

And now the mayor is going to war with the super-powers team up of the guy that kicked his rear end and the guys that kicked that guy's rear end and his rear end. He's just not very good at this tactics stuff.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

Junpei posted:

Everyone in Covenant is at least usable. For me, my final party was Yuri/Karin/Joachim/8th (who is a lot better than most people seem to give them credit for), but Blanca, 6, 7, and Gepetto were rotated in and out as I saw fit, and all of them got some good time to shine.

I used the next party member a lot as their skills were insanely good support wise.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



The Dark Id posted:


He lost both his characters and a character portrait in the war. S
Parents and character portrait.

DukeofCA
Aug 18, 2011

I am shocked and appalled.

Speedball posted:

It took me this long to realize a greedy mayor trying to steal a shopkeep's treasure is exactly how Keith was introduced to us. ...I wonder if that was intentional.

At least this mayor isn't also trying to bang the shopkeep.

Iceblocks
Jan 5, 2013
Taco Defender
People were talking about how Joachim/Grand Papillion's speech during his introduction was referencing something or other, but his laugh right before he showed up might have been a reference to Golden Bat(Ōgon Bat).

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I love how it's not even a wrestling mask but a hairclip. Perhaps when you have enough wrestle power, wrestling masks spontaneously arise from the environment?

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

Glazius posted:

I love how it's not even a wrestling mask but a hairclip. Perhaps when you have enough wrestle power, wrestling masks spontaneously arise from the environment?
For a true luchador the mask is not a physical mask but an extension of yourself. :haw:

Accordion Man fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Apr 20, 2019

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

This was my main party for most of the game until the 8th party member took over Karin's slot. I used everyone else here and there but this was the mainstay.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord
If I remember right I ditched Gepetto for Joachim and Blanca for the next party member and then dumped that person for the next party member after that and that was my final team.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


I had three separate parties that I rotated through on a regular basis. Yuri and Karin were in each of them, and each of the other characters showed up in one. I don't remember exactly how I split it.

Zagglezig
Oct 16, 2012
So, will the treasure these goons are after also be like the last time and they're misinterpreting something innocuous as some super valuable thing? My bet is there's a box of keepsakes and saved letters or something.
Also, now I wonder if old villages had something like a community cellar to age/keep booze in.


The Dark Id posted:

a guy that punched out a god. And go completely de-leveled

a brief chat with Granny Lot. Also learning here name is Granny Lot, I suppose. :v:

For now, both Joachim and Yuri and mandatory members of the party.

Third one looks like it should be "are".

Shitenshi
Mar 12, 2013
So is the fat thug what became of Halley? It's not like Koudelka had a serious connection to Edward beyond a post final boss one night stand, so it wouldn't be surprising if that plan of reuniting with him in America fell through and the kid absconded back to Europe to stuff his sorrows in food. Failed child JRPG party members are the new child murder.

Shitenshi fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Apr 21, 2019

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Materant
Jul 22, 2010

see, what you don't understand is he now has

THE MANLIEST MUSTACHE

it defies physics


Shitenshi posted:

So is the fat thug what became of Halley? It's not like Koudelka had a serious connection to Edward beyond a post final boss one night stand, so it wouldn't be surprising if that plan of reuniting with him in America fell through and the kid absconded back to Europe to stuff his sorrows in food. Failed child JRPG party members are the new child murder.

Kid would have gone back to Britain, not France. Also it's been less than a year since the last game.

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