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Flopsy posted:Vikings are a possibility or like Mr. Buddy's video guessed possibly Roman invaders. Or it could just be straight up pokemon "War of the Roses" so who knows. I'm there with you about team Flare though. I remember everyone laughing their rear end off at the game trying to play down Lysandre like he wasn't the big villain with his ridiculous rear end hair and weird philosophizing. It was a lot funnier back when the idea of a weird old guy's vaguely fascist rants being lauded by the academic community as 'so passionate!' was something you couldn't imagine happening in real life. Needs to get his rear end kicked by Pokemon Slavoj Zizek.
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The gyms have already been shown to be football stadiums, and I’m pretty sure that there will be less than eight because iirc only around five where on the world map
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thetoughestbean posted:The gyms have already been shown to be football stadiums, and I’m pretty sure that there will be less than eight because iirc only around five where on the world map Well, there's one more "stadium" in the far northern "London analogue" city. It could be the Elite Four location, but it could also be another gym(probably the last one you visit). Assuming that the two other big cities in the middle of the map have gyms as well (which don't show up as well on the map due to the cities' size), that would come out to around the traditional eight gyms. The concept of the gyms as sporting arenas is an interesting one, though. There are quite a few ways they could go with the concept. Maybe you'll have your own gym, and the pokemon league is essentially your gym challenging the others for the right to move on to the playoffs/Elite Four. It could be interesting if you challenge the gym as a team with your "friendly rivals", while the antagonistic rival is also a gym leader with his own "Opposing Sports Team". Maybe it would be a way for double/triple battles to see more relevance in actual gameplay, since Nintendo seems to be pushing them in official tournaments. Of course, the gym would probably end with you going one-on-one with the gym leader, as per tradition. There's also potential plot implications to be had with the idea of fighting your Pokemon battles in front of a live audience. For instance, one idea for the token villain team could be football hooligans that support the rival gym, and stoop to any means to ensure that they win. This time, the villains aren't after the box legendary for the purposes of world domination or destruction or whatever. They've got the same goals as you; become the champion. Only they're willing to do anything to be the champ, no matter how unethical or potentially world-ending.
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Could be some secret underground stadiums or something. Maybe they'll mix it up and one will be a cricket ground while another is a golf course. I dunno if there's really any guesses to be made for the plot; as said, Game Freak's villain teams tend not to have much obvious relation to the area's theme, nor the overall plot and legendaries for that matter. We just had a game in Hawaii where the antagonists are partly a goth street gang and partly the overzealous employees of a charitable nonprofit with a shady underbelly who think you're an intruder, and the main plot involves extradimensional monsters even weirder than the superpowered monsters that already live there. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Apr 21, 2019 |
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Zuzie posted:I think she was supposed to have a bigger role in that Relic Castle plot that got cancelled due to that Earthquake? But yeah, she was kind of useless until the Necrozma arc where she's now in the same role as Cassidy. Heck she wasn't even named anything in the English dub until the Necrozma arc some 9 years after her introduction. https://bulbapedia.bulbs garden.net/wiki/Wendy_(EP231) Are you thinking of this character? She only showed up once and was more middle management than Giovanni’s secretary
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It’s me, the member of the mafia who was relegated to middle management. This mafia paperwork isn’t going to file itself!
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Could be some secret underground stadiums or something. Maybe they'll mix it up and one will be a cricket ground while another is a golf course. Team rocket is just the Yakuza in 2 gens very focused on Japan city life, rse is a very nature focused series so magma and aqua are eco-terrorists, 4 is about history so Cyrus is trying to end it, flare is obsessed with beauty in Paris, and team skull is disaffected youths in a highly unequal society. I'd say most of the villain teams have very obvious ties to the themes of the games
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thetoughestbean posted:The gyms have already been shown to be football stadiums, and I’m pretty sure that there will be less than eight because iirc only around five where on the world map The steam city in the middle has a stadium in the trailer that isn't obvious in the map, so we might get the full 8 anyway.
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Spend all the time and effort whittling down and setting up a capture on Necrozma, and then get a critical capture on the first Beast Ball: 
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Dan Didio posted:Spend all the time and effort whittling down and setting up a capture on Necrozma, and then get a critical capture on the first Beast Ball: I just threw a quick ball
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Apr 21, 2019 16:11
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I gotta teach too many drat moves to my Pokemon just to be able to get around the world. I've already taught my Swampert surf and dive, I don't want to have to teach him waterfall too. That's three of his four move slots taken up just for stuff to get around the world! And my Latias has fly and my Exploud has strength and rock break, I have to load up all my favorites with this crap!
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Apr 21, 2019 16:20
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fly becomes redundant eventually gen 4 was worse with i think 8 hms, including rock climb and defog 🤢
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Apr 21, 2019 16:41
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Best thing SM did was finally getting rid of HMs.
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The earlier gens were usually better with the HM stuff in that along with the Route 1 bird and bugs, there was usually a generic boring often normal type at the start of the game that seemingly existed to be your HM slave. Hoenn was nice enough to give you one with Pickup as an ability and Sinnoh gave you Bidoof.
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Apr 21, 2019 16:57
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Gen 7 was the best with HMs because it removed them entirely, but before that BW did a pretty good job in making them completely optional for side areas (except the forced use of Cut once and it seemed to be there entirely as a HM tutorial in the first place). Too bad B2W2 then took a step backwards on that (between other things).
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Apr 21, 2019 18:15
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oddium posted:fly becomes redundant eventually It doesn’t, Soar takes too long and quickly becomes repetitive so Fly remains superior.
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Apr 21, 2019 18:28
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I was somewhat confused when the game sent me to the final fight when I'd only beat 7 of the 8 gyms. But then I beat the ancient god destroying the word and the credits didn't roll. And people were like, you did a great job, but you still have a gym left, and then four more dudes to fight! And I realized that the whole story with the terrorists unleashing a legendary monster to destroy the world was a subplot. The actual plot of the game is me being the best at Pokemon fighting.
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Apr 21, 2019 18:29
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It can be really fiddly to land at specific spots with Soar. I put my secret base next to the Safari Zone so it has easy access to a PC, and Soaring there is a bitch.
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I just realized I expect the Switch game to be more expansive and probably longer since it’s moving up a weight class in terms of platform. I hope that’s the case
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drat secret bases were cool
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I always thought gen 3 was kinda lame but hearing it through your words makes me think that maybe it is me that's lame
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Apr 21, 2019 18:55
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Gripweed posted:I was somewhat confused when the game sent me to the final fight when I'd only beat 7 of the 8 gyms. But then I beat the ancient god destroying the word and the credits didn't roll. And people were like, you did a great job, but you still have a gym left, and then four more dudes to fight!
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Apr 21, 2019 18:58
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In BW, on top of being mostly optional, 2 hms (waterfall and dive) are post-game.
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Paul.Power posted:I think that's pretty true of all the games except Black/White. Gen 5 did the best job at integrating the "become the champion" and "defeat the villain team" plots. It sort of worked in the original game, too, since Team Rocket wasn't really played up as anything other than a distraction, and the surprise twist of Giovanni being the last gym leader helped to put a proper climax on the subplot and lead into the Indigo Plateau finale. But as the villain team's goals have escalated into world-threatening territory with each gen, and the stakes have gotten higher, actually beating the Elite Four and the champion feels anticlimatic when compared to saving the world after seven gyms. Hopefully Gen 8 does something similar to Black/White and meshes the two plots together more - like having the villain team's plan come to fruition after you become the champ. Then the plot works well in explaining why some kid is expected to save the world - you're the goddamn champion and the strongest trainer in the region; of course you'd be expected to protect it. Or maybe the champion is the leader of the villain team. I don't think they've done that yet.
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Apr 21, 2019 19:45
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N was technically the Champion when you fought him.
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Considering the gym fights seem to be soccer-inspired and the game is based on England, I'm expecting none of the relevant trainers to be British and people moaning about how it's been 50 years since they had a local champion in their league.
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Dias posted:Considering the gym fights seem to be soccer-inspired and the game is based on England, I'm expecting none of the relevant trainers to be British and people moaning about how it's been 50 years since they had a local champion in their league. I remember the time the Kalos champion head butted the Unovan Champion, it was crazy
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Gripweed posted:I was somewhat confused when the game sent me to the final fight when I'd only beat 7 of the 8 gyms. But then I beat the ancient god destroying the word and the credits didn't roll. And people were like, you did a great job, but you still have a gym left, and then four more dudes to fight! I always figured they were like "Listen, we can't change the rules just because you defeated the mafia, saved the world, and captured literal God in a Premiere Ball. You still gotta get that eighth badge, kid."
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Detective No. 27 posted:I always figured they were like "Listen, we can't change the rules just because you defeated the mafia, saved the world, and captured literal God in a Premiere Ball. You still gotta get that eighth badge, kid." Frankly, I appreciate their commitment to the rules
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Detective No. 27 posted:I always figured they were like "Listen, we can't change the rules just because you defeated the mafia, saved the world, and captured literal God in a Premiere Ball. You still gotta get that eighth badge, kid." Not only do they not consider bending the rules to declare you a master trainer early or something, it never occurs to anyone that maybe what you did should change the course of your Pokemon journey and your entire life. They're thankful that you saved the world, but they don't really treat the situation with the gravity you'd expect from people who saw the world almost get destroyed by a biblical deluge I'm just imaging the Alpha Sapphire protagonist in middle school, talking with his classmates about what they did in their gap year (gap years in the Pokemon universe being between elementary school and middle school and entirely dedicated to Pokemon, of course). One says "I met this boy and we traveled together and he gave me my first kiss!" another says "I got part time jobs at the Pokemon Centers and that's why I want to be a vet!" and the AS guy says "I killed a god and saved the world. Remember that horrible storm that devastated the world a few weeks ago? I stopped it" and they're all treated with equal weight and importance
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It was a lot funnier back when the idea of a weird old guy's vaguely fascist rants being lauded by the academic community as 'so passionate!' was something you couldn't imagine happening in real life. Oh God dude now you've made me sad. 
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less laughter posted:It doesn’t, Soar takes too long and quickly becomes repetitive so Fly remains superior. if you use fly after getting soar they put you down in the pokedex as Clownce, the Clown Dunce pokemon
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oddium posted:if you use fly after getting soar they put you down in the pokedex as Clownce, the Clown Dunce pokemon
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Gripweed posted:I'm just imaging the Alpha Sapphire protagonist in middle school, talking with his classmates about what they did in their gap year (gap years in the Pokemon universe being between elementary school and middle school and entirely dedicated to Pokemon, of course). One says "I met this boy and we traveled together and he gave me my first kiss!" another says "I got part time jobs at the Pokemon Centers and that's why I want to be a vet!" and the AS guy says "I killed a god and saved the world. Remember that horrible storm that devastated the world a few weeks ago? I stopped it" and they're all treated with equal weight and importance “Also I’m now the best trainer in the country.” The next kid speaks up. “I caught a Shiny Zigzagoon. His name is Shigshagoon.” The AS Protagonist hangs his head in shame, for his story has been topped
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Super No Vacancy posted:drat secret bases were cool it's true
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oddium posted:if you use fly after getting soar they put you down in the pokedex as Clownce, the Clown Dunce pokemon it's true
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Apr 21, 2019 22:23
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Most of the time when you save the world you do it quickly enough that nobody even realizes it was in danger.
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I did it, I beat Pokemon Alpha Sapphire. That elite four/champion sequence was awesome, and I really liked the final little fight with May. That was a nice way to end the game. I wasn't crazy about the weird sequel tease at the end. Watching the meteor shower with May was such a nice moment to end on, but they kinda ruined it by reminding you of your dysfunctional home life just to get you interested in the next game. Also, why do you need to buy tickets to see a meteor shower? That quibble aside, I really liked the game. As I said, I hadn't played a Pokemon since I was a small child with Pokemon Blue on the Gameboy, but I am back on the Pokemon train now
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Gripweed posted:I did it, I beat Pokemon Alpha Sapphire. That elite four/champion sequence was awesome, and I really liked the final little fight with May. That was a nice way to end the game. No, it's not a tease for the next game, it's a tease for the post-game story
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mandatory lesbian posted:I can't believe you murder Pokemon Boris Johnson in the new game The bad guys wanna separate from the rest of the Pokemon world by scapegoating Alolan form Pokemon
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