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Alhazred posted:The Night King kicks Theon in the crotch while Theon is all The night king is like "huuuuuhhh??" then theon pulls his mask off to reveal arya! Of course then shes like "girls dont have testicles" and the night king is like "oh that explains it".
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WHY BONER NOW posted:The night king is like "huuuuuhhh??" then theon pulls his mask off to reveal arya! Of course then shes like "girls dont have testicles" and the night king is like "oh that explains it". I am no man!
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Apr 22, 2019 18:21
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No Wave posted:I thought she was just a little larpey and odd, I didnt think it meant she had a big dream. Maybe "dream" isn't the right word. She's been a knight since the beginning of the show, at least in her actions. She represents all the same things that knights do, she's ferociously loyal to whoever she serves, has honor, all that stuff. But because she's a woman she was never allowed to officially have the title. So for the first time she's being properly acknowledged as the thing she's actually been all these years, and by someone she loves and respects.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:21
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Honestly I think it would be a pretty awesome twist if somehow the attack was on King's Landing but the only way I can see that working would be if it was just the Night King and his dragon. You can't sail the white walkers there so there's no other way to get an army that far down. And I don't think the Night King would take that kind of a risk.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:22
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WHY BONER NOW posted:The night king is like "huuuuuhhh??" then theon pulls his mask off to reveal arya! Of course then shes like "girls dont have testicles" and the night king is like "oh that explains it". Night's king kicks him in the crotch and theon grins, then Night's King talks for the first time! And says "Fool, it hurts like hell to get kicked in the groin whether you have balls or not!!" And theon crumples over.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:23
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Rhaegar posted:Honestly I think it would be a pretty awesome twist if somehow the attack was on King's Landing but the only way I can see that working would be if it was just the Night King and his dragon. You can't sail the white walkers there so there's no other way to get an army that far down. And I don't think the Night King would take that kind of a risk. Maybe he just sent the zombie dragon down there to raze it to the ground.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:23
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We will know based on how far down the ice tiles have been flipped in the opening credits. The episode preview for 3 didn't show a single enemy combatant, right? Just winterfell defenders getting pumped?
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Apr 22, 2019 18:24
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CornHolio posted:Maybe he just sent the zombie dragon down there to raze it to the ground. This would be a real disappointing way to deal with kings landing imo. That city needs to be properly sacked. The dragon is the cherry on top.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:24
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Zaphod42 posted:Same though. Humans being wicked to each other for believable reasons is so much more interesting than THE EVIL PEOPLE ARE COMING I remember GRRM saying his inspiration was “what is Aragorn’s tax policy?” and I like that. I like that this universe has always been a more human, relatable take on an epic euro fantasy universe. It wouldn’t be the same if it was just “medieval drama, but fake.” The mix of high and low fantasy makes ASOIAF ASOIAF. Plus the zomboys have been around since day one and “this Game of Thrones poo poo doesn’t matter” has been a running theme since then too. Idk what some of y’all were expecting. Thread challenge: what’s the best possible small council for maximum good dialogue and sick dunks? I vote: Queen Dany, Hand Tywin, Tormund, Varys, Olenna, S2 Tyrion, Hound. Really I’d love to see Tywin commenting on Jon and Dany in any capacity
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Apr 22, 2019 18:26
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I know it doesn't matter because we're pressed for time but no one in this show is acting rationally. The decision to stand at Winterfell only makes sense if you know the finale is coming. 1. Use your army while you have an army. Showing up to stab the bad guys all together is maybe half of what you do with an army. They could and should be sending outriders to track the White Walkers, to say nothing of using dragon and Magic Bran recon. The Dothraki are basically the Mongols and they should be harrowing the dead’s flanks from the moment they arrived. If nothing else, confirm that your fancy dragonglass poo poo actually works before you're committed. The corrolary to this is that Daenarys majorly hosed up by not taking Cersei off the board. She lost her fleet last season, so if she was able to get her army off Dragonstone she did it by ferrying them off piece by piece. From Dragonstone, she'd know that Euron's fleet left King's Landing, but wouldn't know where they went. Rook's Rest is a day’s row away and incredibly close to the capital. Her Dothraki would have had to ride around King's Landing to get to the Flaming Fields in the first place. If Dany knew that Cersei was going to gently caress her over, which she did, then the peace conference was bullshit from the stat and they should have burned her on the spot and taken the city by surprise. 2. Winterfell is a dumb place for a last stand. Winterfell is defenseable against traditional armies but this isn't a regular army that they can outlast through a seige. They can't fit everyone into the city, can't feed everyone if they could and the bulk of the Targaryan troops would be useless. They recognize this and are planning on a set-piece battle beneath the walls, but that's dumb too. If they lose, the castle is hosed because the enemy has a dragon and icicle javelin anti-air. Further, why are they hiding people in the crypts at all? The grim fatalism makes for good t.v. but they weren't beseiged until just now. You hide women and children in the crypts for a traditional assault because they aren't the actual targets and they might get killed accidentally. A normal conquering army probably isn't going to slaughter them, but this one will turn them into reinforcements. Anyone in the city who can't actively fight is a drain on resources and a potential enemy recruit. 3. Tyrion, Varys, Davos, Sam, Gendry, Jaime, Sansa and Bran (especially Bran) have other poo poo they should be doing. The rainbow coalition in the North should be fanning out to thier respective homes and gathering armies. Dornish forces are unbloodied and sworn to Dany. If Winterfell falls Dany could still bug out and have a power base for if and when the dead chew through King's Landing. Someone who can't fight but can handle politics and organization (Varys or Tyrion) should be headed to Dorne to get them marching north or at least keep them in the fold. Samwell Tarley is the head of a major House in the Reach and technically Cersei’s Warden of the South. He should be headed there with either Varys or Tyrion to organize troops and supplies in Dany's name and to put the Citadel to work on more anti White-Walker tech. Jaime Lannister is the true heir to his house, beloved among his people, and Lannister troops will absolutely follow his orders over Cersei's. The Lannister armies are comparably depleted but if the North can still field troops then Westerlands can too. He and Sansa should be on the way to Casterly Rock yesterday. I get why Sansa would want to stay in Winterfell, but Jaime should drop her and Davos off in the Riverlands on his way South because she would be more useful there than she is Mean Girlsing Kelly C. If Edmure isn't dead, she could help him get his poo poo together. If he is dead, she might have the strongest claim to House Tully. Either way, the Riverlands have had a few years to recover from the war, the Frey’s are dead and ain't nobody speaking for Circee. It's another source of men and materials that you might want if you're dealing with Armegeddon. Same deal with Gendry. The last living Baratheon, even a bastard, is going to have more sway with the Stormlords than Cersi Lannister. Especially if his claim to Storm's End is supported by House Dondarian and House Tarth. loving Bran. If he's right and is what the Night King is actually chasing then the war is over you won. Use him as bait, but don't be dumb about it. Put him on a boat to Skagos and see if the dead follow. Send him on a world tour of sparsely populated islands while you recover your strength.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:26
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teagone posted:But if they write Jon to want his rightful claim to the Iron Throne, then gently caress that, that'll be bullshit. I think this is the absolute worst possible writing decision they could make and I am so worried that they sort of have him heading in that direction. Rhaegar posted:Honestly I think it would be a pretty awesome twist if somehow the attack was on King's Landing but the only way I can see that working would be if it was just the Night King and his dragon. You can't sail the white walkers there so there's no other way to get an army that far down. And I don't think the Night King would take that kind of a risk. I do like the idea of this twist but there's absolutely no reason for them to attack King's Landing first. The Night King wants Bran, not Cersei. He probably also knows that the dragons and Jon are a threat.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:26
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It don't make sense for the Night King to attack winterfell. A real army need to attack winterfell, because a real army need ammo and food and that is moved in trucks that can be attacked by the enemy, you can't leave a enemy behind you burning your wood and ammo trucks. But the army of the death don't need that, can just move forward like a snowball, making his army bigger and bigger and bigger.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:30
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Tei posted:It don't make sense for the Night King to attack winterfell. He wants Bran and knows he's in Winterfell.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:31
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Tei posted:It don't make sense for the Night King to attack winterfell. It does make a lot of sense to attack winterfell when the thing you want the most is in winterfell.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:32
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Alec Eiffel posted:It was a great episode! i agree
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Apr 22, 2019 18:33
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:2. Winterfell is a dumb place for a last stand. Ned Stark once said 500 men could hold Winterfell against 10,000. But Ned also got his head chopped off for being too honorable and not playing the game right, so maybe he's wrong. Still though. His words have to mean something.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:34
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The Twenty Good Men could easily hold Winterfell against the undead hordes
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Apr 22, 2019 18:39
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Ramsay's corpse is going to rise and Theon will finally get his chance at payback
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Apr 22, 2019 18:42
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teagone posted:Ned Stark once said 500 men could hold Winterfell against 10,000. But Ned also got his head chopped off for being too honorable and not playing the game right, so maybe he's wrong. Still though. His words have to mean something. The Starks know that kind of stuff. You can trust them on that. Just the whole politic games stuff they can't do
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Apr 22, 2019 18:42
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Everything is at Winterfell because it's Winter and the North has been struck by massive snowstorms and if you aren't literally an army of men at peak physical fitness then you aren't going anywhere. You don't want to get into an endurance race in a blizzard with an army of zombies, it will end badly for you. This is fine. What they should really be regretting as a missed opportunity is having someone dumb say to Theon "what use is a guy without a cock in a fight" and have Grey Worm and a dozen unsullied turn round with a 'the gently caress you say?' line. Theon's redemption arc is good and complete as is, but it would have been nice to have that last piece of his self-worth put back in place by someone who can credibly say to him 'what's happened to you doesn't mean you can't be a fighter, the secret is will' or something like that.
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lezard_valeth posted:Ramsay's corpse is going to rise and Theon will finally get his chance at payback Gonna be kinda weird to see an undead made out of literal dog poo poo.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:44
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For all that I think this show has gotten dumb I'm genuinly excited to see what they've cooked up with all that time & money for the next episode
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Apr 22, 2019 18:45
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Dragons can still be killed so flying alone to King's Landing is pretty much a guaranteed suicide mission even if he manages to cause some damage first. It would be a real bonehead move for the Night King to split his forces just so he can swerve us, the audience.
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Rosalind posted:Gonna be kinda weird to see an undead made out of literal dog poo poo. We are getting centuries old spoopy skeletons next episode. don't rule anything out except elephants and giant spiders those shits are never gonna happen
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Apr 22, 2019 18:46
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Apr 22, 2019 18:47
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Crimpolioni posted:For all that I think this show has gotten dumb I'm genuinly excited to see what they've cooked up with all that time & money for the next episode All the political intrigue, backstabbing, and drama have culminated into a big-rear end fanservice-as-gently caress spectacle, and yeah, I'm excited for it.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:47
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Zaphod42 posted:Can someone explain the logic of having Bran stand out in the open? This is actually something I was thinking. Like yeah, Bran knows the NK wants him, that tracks, but then "not too close or he won't come" as if they're playing Warcraft and they know his exact behavior was really hacky writing.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:47
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Fellatio del Toro posted:they should burn another kid burn arya
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teagone posted:Ned Stark once said 500 men could hold Winterfell against 10,000. But Ned also got his head chopped off for being too honorable and not playing the game right, so maybe he's wrong. Still though. His words have to mean something. Yeah but how many undead dragons?
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Apr 22, 2019 18:49
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The Night King is not as good of a villain as Joffrey but drat, the end of Hardhome was badass when he outright undoes everything Jon et al just accomplished (killing some wights) and then some (raised mother loving Wun-Wun and that one Wildling woman up). Then he just stands on the shore and glowers. Good stuff.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:49
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Further, why are they hiding people in the crypts at all? The grim fatalism makes for good t.v. but lol maybe just stop the thought process here next time
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Apr 22, 2019 18:51
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Hobo Clown posted:Dragons can still be killed so flying alone to King's Landing is pretty much a guaranteed suicide mission even if he manages to cause some damage first. It would be a real bonehead move for the Night King to split his forces just so he can swerve us, the audience. What's the drawback of leaving a skeleton(ha ha) crew at Winterfell? What are they gonna do build a new wall and seal them to the south? Cersei is pretty ill-prepared for all this and isn't armed to the teeth with dragonglass weapons. Plus they got that whole iron fleet and Golden Company for extra manpower for the dead. If they wanna get real stupid with it they can have undead Cersei be part of the attack on winterfell! hah Also what rules apply to the dragon I can't remember--is he an undead wight type or is he a proper Other/WW. It might yet be hard to kill that thing.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:52
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Hobo Clown posted:Dragons can still be killed so flying alone to King's Landing is pretty much a guaranteed suicide mission even if he manages to cause some damage first. It would be a real bonehead move for the Night King to split his forces just so he can swerve us, the audience. the dragon IS dead. the only way cersei could kill it if the NK really did try to zerg rush KL is with either dragonglass scorpion arrows (rare) or valyrian steel arrows (super rare). Then again, she has Qyburn on his side. Dude probably halfway developing wyldfire nukes for all we know
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WampaLord posted:lol I really think that this is one reason that GRRM couldn't finish the series. Dumping all the characters into the same place for the climax to an epic doesn't fit how he's written the series. It would be like switching from The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Volume 1 to the screenplay of Pompeii. Also, he lazy.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:56
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Rewatching Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead the other day, goddamn Iain Glen looked young and handsome as hell playing Hamlet
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Apr 22, 2019 18:57
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Kawalimus posted:What's the drawback of leaving a skeleton(ha ha) crew at Winterfell? What are they gonna do build a new wall and seal them to the south? Cersei is pretty ill-prepared for all this and isn't armed to the teeth with dragonglass weapons. Plus they got that whole iron fleet and Golden Company for extra manpower for the dead. Skeleton crew burned by dragons
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Apr 22, 2019 18:58
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Night King split his army and is about to take out an ill prepared Kings Landing.
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Apr 22, 2019 18:59
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Skeleton crew burned by dragons Which won't make a difference when the dead golden company comes a marching up north. Beating the skeleton crew is a hollow victory if KL is sacked. It won't take much to win there as Cersei is ill-prepared. Cersei's whole master plan here is that the dead and the coalition will wipe each other out when that's what she's effectively been doing for the dead army this whole series. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Apr 22, 2019 |
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Chalks posted:*child character kills dozens of people* Yeah, that scene was probably some of the most agency Ayra has had in years and one of the most normal things she’s done in the same time period. That said it was still weird for the aforementioned reason of we watched Williams grow up on the show and she’s like a sister to a lot of viewers.
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Kawalimus posted:What's the drawback of leaving a skeleton(ha ha) crew at Winterfell? What are they gonna do build a new wall and seal them to the south? Cersei is pretty ill-prepared for all this and isn't armed to the teeth with dragonglass weapons. Plus they got that whole iron fleet and Golden Company for extra manpower for the dead. If one dude on one dragon ends up being OP enough to take out the entire south on its own then it will be incredibly silly if/when the plucky folks at Winterfell are still able to manage some kind of victory by the end. Also how would Night King know how prepared Cersei is or isn't?
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