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No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Crow Jane posted:

Dany and Daario. I'd also argue Cat/Ned, Talisa/Robb, Ygritte/Jon, maaaybe Shae/Tyrion in a way. Maybe even Cersei/Jaime in a sense.
I'm totally gonna count melisandre

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GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
We know that Gendry, a bird, and a dragon can make it from north of the wall to Dragonstone to Winterfell in under 8 hours, but we don't know the contributory speed of each of those 3 parties. NK on a dragon could do the Winterfell-KL trip in as little as 1 second or as much as 7hr:59m:59s

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Melisandre raped a teenaged boy onscreen, as a prelude to a planned horrific murder

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
Yeah but like

She didn't know him when he was 11 and she was 589

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
quick poll: how many people here have noticed a wide cultural trend of people being weirdly insecure about all the sex and tits and dicks in GoT

i'm getting in a bizarre argument in CineD where someone doesn't believe this exists, in spite of my experience telling me that people being weird about it is practically a cultural meme at this point, and... i'm willing to accept that i might be going crazy but i don't think i am

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
I wonder if the Night King and his White Walkers have to control the undead, so they're actually limited by the amount they can have at any one time. So they couldn't snowball one city at a time until they're unstoppable.

Crespolini
Mar 9, 2014

LadyPictureShow posted:

Wasn't it a rib cage with only one arm that popped out of the snow to stave Jojen to death?

E: it might have been the one Meera split in half still going.

there were harryhousen skeletons running around which made me go uuh for a second because up until then i though it was just zombies

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
You must construct additional pylons

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

quick poll: how many people here have noticed a wide cultural trend of people being weirdly insecure about all the sex and tits and dicks in GoT

i'm getting in a bizarre argument in CineD where someone doesn't believe this exists, in spite of my experience telling me that people being weird about it is practically a cultural meme at this point, and... i'm willing to accept that i might be going crazy but i don't think i am
This is the most popular show in the world right now, idk what you mean "weird about"

People I know who bounce off of the show find it slow and boring or arent into violent fantasy.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

quick poll: how many people here have noticed a wide cultural trend of people being weirdly insecure about all the sex and tits and dicks in GoT

i'm getting in a bizarre argument in CineD where someone doesn't believe this exists, in spite of my experience telling me that people being weird about it is practically a cultural meme at this point, and... i'm willing to accept that i might be going crazy but i don't think i am

Change 'GoT' to 'America' and you have solved your mystery

romanowski
Nov 10, 2012

can’t wait to watch all of our friends fighting a bunch of kick rear end skeletons next week

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

No Wave posted:

This is the most popular show in the world right now, idk what you mean "weird about"

people pretending they like it except for when there's dicks and tits everywhere, and that they actually extremely hate those parts/consider them worthy of constant mockery (despite religiously tuning into the show every Sunday)

like nobody seems to want to admit they're cool with the sexual content in the show outside SA and... like, with the rape obviously i loving get it, i agree that GoT would be better without that, but the sexposition scenes unironically own and achieve what they're supposed to (make boring dry :words: less boring and dry by having them delivered while someone's balls deep in someone else) for example

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

quick poll: how many people here have noticed a wide cultural trend of people being weirdly insecure about all the sex and tits and dicks in GoT

i'm getting in a bizarre argument in CineD where someone doesn't believe this exists, in spite of my experience telling me that people being weird about it is practically a cultural meme at this point, and... i'm willing to accept that i might be going crazy but i don't think i am

Lmao

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




CornHolio posted:

I wonder if the Night King and his White Walkers have to control the undead, so they're actually limited by the amount they can have at any one time. So they couldn't snowball one city at a time until they're unstoppable.

That's probably how it will end, tbh. Kill NK somehow and all the raised dead instantly collapse, so it won't matter if they're absurdly outnumbered at the time.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

No offense but aren't you the weirdo who asked for advice on which timestamp to shut your eyes so you didn't have to see a 22 year old woman's naked torso?

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

No offense but aren't you the weirdo who asked for advice on which timestamp to shut your eyes so you didn't have to see a 22 year old woman's naked torso?

also the guy I'm having a bizarre argument in CineD with about this, side note :v:

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

people constantly pretending they like it except for when there's dicks and tits everywhere and that they actually extremely hate those parts/consider them worthy of constant mockery (despite religiously tuning into the show every Sunday)

What if I don’t mind the nudity but think most of it is gratuitous?

Also it’s real dumb that HBO feels the need to cram in tits and the occasional swinging dong in this day and age. Maybe people liked premium channels for jerkin’ it 20 years ago but there is a hilarious amount of free porn available nowadays. No one is watching this show for that.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Hobo Clown posted:

Night King would also be way OP if that were the case. He and one dragon can take out an entire city, and then that city joins him, and then he does this dozens of times all across Westeros, and also anyone that has ever died anywhere in Westeros also joins his army, and that army can travel thousands of miles in a day completely undetected. It props him up to such a degree that whatever method the good guys use to stop him will have to be out of left field and unlike anything that's been shown to be within their power before.

I mean, yeah it's bad if he does that, that's why it's a big deal to stop him from doing that.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room
I'll go on record as saying I like looking at boobs and dicks sometimes

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

Heavy Shit
Grimey Drawer

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

people pretending they like it except for when there's dicks and tits everywhere, and that they actually extremely hate those parts/consider them worthy of constant mockery (despite religiously tuning into the show every Sunday)

like nobody seems to want to admit they're cool with the sexual content in the show outside SA and... like, with the rape obviously i loving get it, i agree that GoT would be better without that, but the sexposition scenes unironically own and achieve what they're supposed to (make boring dry :words: less boring and dry by having them delivered while someone's balls deep in someone else) for example

I refuse to believe an adult wrote this.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

No offense but aren't you the weirdo who asked for advice on which timestamp to shut your eyes so you didn't have to see a 22 year old woman's naked torso?

Point taken but there is a pretty big difference between "I am not here for this specific instance of nudity" vs "all nudity/sexuality makes me uncomfortable."

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

Crow Jane posted:

I'll go on record as saying I like looking at boobs and dicks sometimes



It's totally fine if you don't like it either. But the people who are going on outright crusade against arya sideboob are (literally I am accusing them of this) pearl clutchers, repressed pedophiles, or both

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

also the guy I'm having a bizarre argument in CineD with about this, side note :v:

For it to be an argument I think you need a point, but far be it for me to disagree with the LORD OF BOOTY

Leon Sumbitches
Mar 27, 2010

Dr. Leon Adoso Sumbitches (prounounced soom-'beh-cheh) (born January 21, 1935) is heir to the legendary Adoso family oil fortune.





Crow Jane posted:

I'll go on record as saying I like looking at boobs and dicks sometimes

That's very brave of you.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Crow Jane posted:

I'll go on record as saying I like looking at boobs and dicks sometimes

Get a load of this pervert

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
"Premium cable is for nudity" has been an accepted truth for a while, I don't think got is even all that gratuitous anymore beyond one obligatory scene per season (like Bron's in ep 1). I don't think there's any cultural movement you're boldly standing against by watching game of thrones.

BlackStar
Aug 21, 2004

I lost a lot of my zeal for GoT nudity the day Margaery Tyrell died. RIP.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Hobo Clown posted:

Night King would also be way OP if that were the case. He and one dragon can take out an entire city, and then that city joins him, and then he does this dozens of times all across Westeros, and also anyone that has ever died anywhere in Westeros also joins his army, and that army can travel thousands of miles in a day completely undetected. It props him up to such a degree that whatever method the good guys use to stop him will have to be out of left field and unlike anything that's been shown to be within their power before.

He doesn't even need the dragon for anything but transport. All 5 valyrian steel weapons are at winterfell, and no one in the golden company would have dragonglass weapons. He can just land and walk on up to the golden company and start murdering + raising them with no issue.

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



Crow Jane posted:

I'll go on record as saying I like looking at boobs and dicks sometimes

I share this kink

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

BlackStar posted:

I lost a lot of my zeal for GoT nudity the day Margaery Tyrell died. RIP.

Melisandre's are pretty nice, imo. By which, of course, I mean ancient Melisandre.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


BlackStar posted:

I lost a lot of my zeal for GoT nudity the day Margaery Tyrell died. RIP.

ros.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

I know it doesn't matter because we're pressed for time but no one in this show is acting rationally. The decision to stand at Winterfell only makes sense if you know the finale is coming.

1. Use your army while you have an army.

Showing up to stab the bad guys all together is maybe half of what you do with an army. They could and should be sending outriders to track the White Walkers, to say nothing of using dragon and Magic Bran recon. The Dothraki are basically the Mongols and they should be harrowing the dead’s flanks from the moment they arrived. If nothing else, confirm that your fancy dragonglass poo poo actually works before you're committed.

The corrolary to this is that Daenarys majorly hosed up by not taking Cersei off the board. She lost her fleet last season, so if she was able to get her army off Dragonstone she did it by ferrying them off piece by piece. From Dragonstone, she'd know that Euron's fleet left King's Landing, but wouldn't know where they went. Rook's Rest is a day’s row away and incredibly close to the capital. Her Dothraki would have had to ride around King's Landing to get to the Flaming Fields in the first place. If Dany knew that Cersei was going to gently caress her over, which she did, then the peace conference was bullshit from the stat and they should have burned her on the spot and taken the city by surprise.

2. Winterfell is a dumb place for a last stand.

Winterfell is defenseable against traditional armies but this isn't a regular army that they can outlast through a seige. They can't fit everyone into the city, can't feed everyone if they could and the bulk of the Targaryan troops would be useless. They recognize this and are planning on a set-piece battle beneath the walls, but that's dumb too. If they lose, the castle is hosed because the enemy has a dragon and icicle javelin anti-air.

Further, why are they hiding people in the crypts at all? The grim fatalism makes for good t.v. but they weren't beseiged until just now. You hide women and children in the crypts for a traditional assault because they aren't the actual targets and they might get killed accidentally. A normal conquering army probably isn't going to slaughter them, but this one will turn them into reinforcements. Anyone in the city who can't actively fight is a drain on resources and a potential enemy recruit.

3. Tyrion, Varys, Davos, Sam, Gendry, Jaime, Sansa and Bran (especially Bran) have other poo poo they should be doing. The rainbow coalition in the North should be fanning out to thier respective homes and gathering armies.

Dornish forces are unbloodied and sworn to Dany. If Winterfell falls Dany could still bug out and have a power base for if and when the dead chew through King's Landing. Someone who can't fight but can handle politics and organization (Varys or Tyrion) should be headed to Dorne to get them marching north or at least keep them in the fold.

Samwell Tarley is the head of a major House in the Reach and technically Cersei’s Warden of the South. He should be headed there with either Varys or Tyrion to organize troops and supplies in Dany's name and to put the Citadel to work on more anti White-Walker tech.

Jaime Lannister is the true heir to his house, beloved among his people, and Lannister troops will absolutely follow his orders over Cersei's. The Lannister armies are comparably depleted but if the North can still field troops then Westerlands can too. He and Sansa should be on the way to Casterly Rock yesterday.

I get why Sansa would want to stay in Winterfell, but Jaime should drop her and Davos off in the Riverlands on his way South because she would be more useful there than she is Mean Girlsing Kelly C. If Edmure isn't dead, she could help him get his poo poo together. If he is dead, she might have the strongest claim to House Tully. Either way, the Riverlands have had a few years to recover from the war, the Frey’s are dead and ain't nobody speaking for Circee. It's another source of men and materials that you might want if you're dealing with Armegeddon.

Same deal with Gendry. The last living Baratheon, even a bastard, is going to have more sway with the Stormlords than Cersi Lannister. Especially if his claim to Storm's End is supported by House Dondarian and House Tarth.

loving Bran. If he's right and is what the Night King is actually chasi ng then the war is over you won. Use him as bait, but don't be dumb about it. Put him on a boat to Skagos and see if the dead follow. Send him on a world tour of sparsely populated islands while you recover your strength.

Super agree. And the early show would have done those things. But its cliche hollywood tropes now.

I bet you we're gonna get a "HOOOLD!" scene in the battle because Braveheart.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Anyone know who this is?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


lady karstark.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

Vintersorg posted:

Anyone know who this is?



Alys Karstark

trickybiscuits
Jan 13, 2008

yospos

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

We know that Gendry, a bird, and a dragon can make it from north of the wall to Dragonstone to Winterfell in under 8 hours, but we don't know the contributory speed of each of those 3 parties. NK on a dragon could do the Winterfell-KL trip in as little as 1 second or as much as 7hr:59m:59s
Quick, somebody write a fantasy series that does with this show's travel times what GRRM wanted to do with Tolkien's kings' tax policies

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Where the gently caress is Howland Reed

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

TheRat posted:

It does make a lot of sense to attack winterfell when the thing you want the most is in winterfell.

Bran being something that the Night King wants is established, but something he wants so bad he'd do otherwise stupid things is a huge stretch.

Seriously night king should march right past winterfell and then come back after sacking king's landing.

What's gonna happen? If Bran dies, he wins. If Bran doesn't die, he can still kill him. There's no rush, no time limit. Its too vague.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

trickybiscuits posted:

Quick, somebody write a fantasy series that does with this show's travel times what GRRM wanted to do with Tolkien's kings' tax policies

Travel times are literally why GRRM quit writing. He couldn't figure it out and lost his mojo, Austin Powers-style

We're only getting resolution because the showrunners are willing to say "eh gently caress it, just have 'em show up where and when they're needed"

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wilderthanmild
Jun 21, 2010

Posting shit




Grimey Drawer
Edit: beaten way before I noticed I was replying to an older post

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