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Gunthen posted:Yah, I hosed that up badly. I don't even know if I should edit it at this point, or just accept it. Don't worry, it's obvious what you meant even though it's hilariously misphrased  BlackStar posted:GoT bringing out all the weird incest and pedo people. Because for as much as I know Maisie Williams is 22, I also know Nicolaj Coster-Waldau and Leana Headey aren't actually brother and sister. Doesn't make it any less cringey. You do understand the difference between "they are brother and sister in the story" and "she is an adult in the story and in real life" though right? When I realised that she was an adult in the show, my primary reaction was wow, the writers did a really lovely job of showing her growing up, I had literally no idea how old she was meant to be and assumed she was still a kid. Once you understand that she's an adult the scene is just as cringey as all the other pointless sex scenes. It would have been good if the costume department had updated her wardrobe from "young girl pretending to be a boy" but part of me thinks they probably left it like that in order to ensure people made a fuss about the scene. The writers are probably paid by the tweet these days.
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People are really falling over themselves to be creeped out by Maisie Williams sex scene. Yes, she was young at the beginning of the show. Please remind yourself that: a) she is not the same age as she was in 2011 or whatever b) she got a lot of control from the showrunners over how she did this scene (what did she even show? some sideboob?) c) it could be argued that watching her grow up made this more impactful. it fits with the theme of transformation and growth of her character on the show. not just into a killer but into an adult. it also further humanizes her from all the horrible poo poo she's done. notice that bran isn't getting a sex scene because he is a three eyed weirdo. If you don't like it, fine, but god drat there doesn't need to be a million thinkpieces about how a woman shooting a very mild sex scene that she had significant creative control over is a sign of moral depravity and patriarchy
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:quick poll: how many people here have noticed a wide cultural trend of people being weirdly insecure about all the sex and tits and dicks in GoT It’s 100% true, and no more obvious than the threads on these forums. It also seems to almost always be dudes. Anyone who still sees Arya as a kid and was “uncomfortable with that scene” after the scene where she brutally slits cuts out the guys eyes and slits his throat, well they’re far too ingrained and unaware of our culture norms are violence is fine but sex is bad and don’t seem to be aware of it. The jokes about checking her age were bad from the start. Checking Twitter, almost every female writer I say thought the sex scene was dope and was more along the lines of “you go girl”. But then, most professional writers I follow also are aware of how strong the show is and would roll their eyes at everyone in here being edge lord try hard bots who couldn’t write their way out of a paper bag story wise.
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Apr 22, 2019 21:02
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Someone you know as a kid having sex is a normal part of their development. You being invested in seeing someone you knew as a kid having sex is an abnormal part of yours. Agreed! But I don't know Maisie Williams and neither do you. Seriously give this a read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction
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Apr 22, 2019 21:02
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A lovely two second sex scene is the least of this show's problems.
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Apr 22, 2019 21:02
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[two characters converse warmly, genuinely enjoying each other's company] goon: what is this. whats going on here. this is dead air man
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DrNutt posted:- a character who was eaten by his own dogs in a very cathartic moment for Sansa Stark I swear to god that she cut his dick off and threw it to the dogs while walking away, but then I rewatched it and that didn’t happen. Am I going senile?
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Apr 22, 2019 21:03
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I think that last week's Bronn scene was a bigger offender than Arya's scene this week in that it did humanize her a bit from the worldly murder-hobo she's been for years. This would only be true if she didn't act the scene out as robotically as possible, which she did. It didn't humanize her at all. Might as well film a sex scene with Mitt Romney.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah but usually actually showing tits is meant to titillate, where other shows cut to black for sex, HBO is known for basically being pornography. Again, because our cultural norms are insane about sex versus violence. And no, it’s not close to pornography
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Midgetskydiver posted:This would only be true if she didn't act the scene out as robotically as possible, which she did. It didn't humanize her at all. Might as well film a sex scene with Mitt Romney. (she is not a very good actor IMHO)
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Luvcow posted:pull up thread pull up, the ground is getting really loving close Far too late. Thread is now being sequestered in the crypts for safety.
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LionArcher posted:It’s 100% true, and no more obvious than the threads on these forums. It also seems to almost always be dudes. Anyone who still sees Arya as a kid and was “uncomfortable with that scene” after the scene where she brutally slits cuts out the guys eyes and slits his throat, well they’re far too ingrained and unaware of our culture norms are violence is fine but sex is bad and don’t seem to be aware of it. The jokes about checking her age were bad from the start. HAHAHA this is very true That DICK! posted:[two characters converse warmly, genuinely enjoying each other's company] also lol. What made this show / makes this show great has always been the dope dialogue scenes. Battle of the Bastards was cool but I'd hate this show if it was just battles every episode
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Apr 22, 2019 21:05
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Gee, I wonder why everyone makes fun of TVIV, let me go check it out...
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Apr 22, 2019 21:06
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Chalks posted:Don't worry, it's obvious what you meant even though it's hilariously misphrased There was no indication she was an adult in the story however. And that is why it's troubling.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Yeah but I don't want to watch it happen. If I value someone as a person I respect their privacy in using their autonomy. Understandable. I don't have any kids, might be a big part of why some people feel uncomfortable about it, I completely understand the reality of parenthood is way outside my scope of understanding or experience. I can respect the idea of privacy and respect. Just not understanding the context here bud, Game of Thrones is a show that has always had a tremendous amount of sex, some of it very graphic and unhealthy. In a show that portrays rape and incest as regular onscreen events. It seems healthy to me to show a normal sexual encounter. And it does not seem out of character for the show or the couple.
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BlackStar posted:There was no indication she was an adult in the story however. And that is why it's troubling. Genuine question, what makes you say that? What would have hit home that the character is an adult? I think people are getting absolutely demolished by her child-like facial features and short stature with very few secondary sex characteristics.
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it was both fine for Arya's character and Maisie is an adult, and also there are 10s of thousands of redditors/HBO execs that have been counting down the days til they could jerk off to the child actress guilt free
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Agreed! Read up, I didn't have a problem with the scene. Gunthen posted:Understandable. I don't have any kids, might be a big part of why some people feel uncomfortable about it, I completely understand the reality of parenthood is way outside my scope of understanding or experience. I agree with all that. Jon and Sansa having a private conversation about grain production targets shouldn't be on screen if it doesn't advance the plot or tell us something about the character. Sex scenes are the same thing, only it's less awkward watching a superfluous grain target conversation with my parents in the room. Chef Boyardeez Nuts fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Apr 22, 2019 |
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Again, did we see Pod's driver's license proving he was 18 when he went to the brothel?
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Apr 22, 2019 21:08
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This is all the puritans fault
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ZorajitZorajit posted:Far too late. Thread is now being sequestered in the crypts for safety. lol That DICK! posted:[two characters converse warmly, genuinely enjoying each other's company] an skeleton posted:also lol. What made this show / makes this show great has always been the dope dialogue scenes. Battle of the Bastards was cool but I'd hate this show if it was just battles every episode  i've liked the last two episodes. most of these people haven't seen each other in years and they're whats left of the people who've survived the story so far and most of them have good reason to think they're going to die very soon.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Read up, I didn't have a problem with the scene. Honestly I got the impression you were literally the only one talking about a non-Maisie Williams child becoming an adult. I didn't think anyone else was trying to talk about real life acquaintances becoming sexually active. And I hope no one continues to because it's completely irrelevant to watching an actor's work.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Genuine question, what makes you say that? What would have hit home that the character is an adult? She's been a child the entire series. Am I just to assume that since HBO has written a sex scene for her that the character is 18?
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A general question. What prophecies in the show or book do you think will be followed up on in the last four episodes of the show? I ask because I have a friend who is incredibly confident about how the series will end and always talks about this prophecy or that. He thinks Daario is going to show up out of no where to betray Danny to fulfill the “betrayed for blood, gold and love” or whatever it was prophecy. I guess it’s kind of possible he shows up with the Goldcloaks but I have a feeling they don’t give a poo poo about closing the loop on things like that.
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BlackStar posted:She's been a child the entire series. Am I just to assume that since HBO has written a sex scene for her that the character is 18? One year = one season has been established for a while now
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BlackStar posted:She's been a child the entire series. Am I just to assume that since HBO has written a sex scene for her that the character is 18? How much time do you feel like has passed in-universe? I personally get the impression (based on real-world schedule of seasons, the number of events and the physical changes in the characters) that it's been about 7-9 years. If for some reason somebody felt like it'd been 0-3 years I guess I could see them being confused by a child sex scene, but I would also accuse them of watching the show with boy eyes closed and earplugs in.
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I'd gently caress Arya.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:One year = one season has been established for a while now Wasn't baby Sam an infant for like three seasons though? I'm just gonna chalk it up to time being hosed up and broken in this particular fantasy world.
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Arya? Buddy, I already did!
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BlackStar posted:She's been a child the entire series. Am I just to assume that since HBO has written a sex scene for her that the character is 18? What a sweet, precocious child she always was! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4O9IWLoABU
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jfood posted:I'd gently caress Arya. Same, but I wouldn't be shocked if a character like Gendry found it weird since he knew her as a child. Not surprising that he never made a move on her, tbh
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Admit it, you don't watch the show and just want to hand-wring itt.
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BlackStar posted:There was no indication she was an adult in the story however. And that is why it's troubling. Yeah, I see what you're saying - it would have been really easy for them to update her wardrobe and have Jon make a comment about how she's grown into a woman since he last saw her, and suddenly nobody would really be talking about the scene at all. But poo poo, who are we kidding expecting the writers to put something in to make a scene less talked about. It's lovely story telling that her age was so vague, but it's pretty clear now I guess and honestly if I rewatch the episode the scene will seem far more mundane.
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That DICK! posted:A general question. What prophecies in the show or book do you think will be followed up on in the last four episodes of the show? The only prophecy on the show is Mel’s vision of somebody being the fire god’s hero/incarnation, I think. But it’s true that the second sons are the only army in the show left unaccounted for, and they are the golden company’s prime competition.
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"Character turned 18, better show her tits and rear end right now!" "Uhh, the timing on that is a little questionable, don't you think?" "CLOSET PEDOPHILE!"
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Arya's weapon is a projectile thing right? I swear her little scroll she gave him had some sort of (hilariously simple and not in a good way) rudimentary drawing we got a glimpse of and it shot the tip of the spear out or something.
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DrNutt posted:Wasn't baby Sam an infant for like three seasons though? I'm just gonna chalk it up to time being hosed up and broken in this particular fantasy world. There a massive difference between when baby Sam is born in the books, and when he is in the show. Its a continuity error, because they changed the pacing of the story from the books, and have moved past them significantly.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:The only prophecy on the show is Mel’s vision of somebody being the fire god’s hero/incarnation, I think. But it’s true that the second sons are the only army in the show left unaccounted for, and they are the golden company’s prime competition. Cersei's thing too
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Midgetskydiver posted:"Character turned 18, better show her tits and rear end right now!" Do you think Maisie Williams was coerced into it or something?
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:How much time do you feel like has passed in-universe? I personally get the impression (based on real-world schedule of seasons, the number of events and the physical changes in the characters) that it's been about 7-9 years. Characters being able to seemingly teleport around Westeros make it extremely difficult to get a feel for how space/time really works in this fantasy world.
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