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Reallycoolname
Feb 26, 2008

Take a look! It's in a book!

paberu posted:

New Chitose is a pretty awesome airport, I'd recommend you stop at Ebisoba ramen before you leave. http://www.new-chitose-airport.jp/en/spend/shop/s146.html . Egg tarts (forget the name of store) are quite unreal too and would recommend you pick some up. I think they have a store in Sapporo maybe?

Are you able to do car rental? Hokkaido is very much a car place and I feel like you'll miss a lot without one.

Unfortunately I can't drive so no, it's public transport or nothing. :( I can bike for hours though.

Noted on the ramen / egg tarts, thanks!


Shibawanko posted:

There's a really good onigiri shop in shinchitose and have you considered eating genghiskhan mutton bbq in sapporo? I think one of the main ones is called Daruma.

Noted. Is there anything else in Shin Chitose by the way? Not that I mind heading over just to gorge myself. :v:

ntan1 posted:

Exactly when are you going? this is important.

Skip Maruyama Zoo. Where is your hometown? Using that, I can tell you if you should skip Asahikawa Zoo as well.

Go to the Hakodate morning market. It is infinitely better than Sapporo's nijo market, where you will be scammed.

The Hakodate ropeway is crowded as hell with Chinese people.

I hope that you are aware that Biei to Hakodate is 5 hours by car, like 7 hours by public transportation.

1) At the end of May, for a week.
2) Singapore.
3) I probably should note that I'm returning to my hotel in Sapporo at the end of each day...
4) I was hoping going off-season would remedy that but hahahahahaha :gibs:
5) See 3)

ntan1 posted:

Indeed,

PS: With the hakodate view, the serious photographers are going to be on a platform slightly down from the main platform, where it's not possible to take any photos. Basically follow the path downwards form the mountain, and you should be able to see it. Has even a better view and much more space/fewer people around that area.

You can even walk down instead of taking the gondola.

I'm not big on photos but gotcha.

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Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

eat everything in Sapporo and hokkaido. sapporo loving rules. I never ate better anywhere agh I wanna eat more things

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


mikeycp posted:

saving that money is fine by me. the minshuku looked more appealing anyway

e: any ryokan (that won't put me in the poorhouse) in shikoku worth it? p sure the gf would like to stay at one this trip at some point

Where in Shikoku? We like Nagoma, on Imabari Oshima.
https://www.gambo-ad.com/hotel/?ar=2Translate&id=42

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

peanut posted:

Where in Shikoku? We like Nagoma, on Imabari Oshima.
https://www.gambo-ad.com/hotel/?ar=2Translate&id=42

we haven't decided where all we're going, but this looks great since we're planning on doing shinanami now!

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Martytoof posted:

There's no way to create reservations from the Tabelog site, right? Or am I just missing a crucial link somewhere.

I know the app allows it, but it's also a little too Japanese for my ability right now.

You can do it from the Japanese Tabelog if the restaurant allows it, but not on the English site. However since you're on your computer you can use the googles to puzzle through, I was able to manage that way.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

I remember in 2004 or 2005 being in times square for new years and seeing groups of bewildered and terrified older Japanese on some kind of package tour with the matching hats etc. They were standing still all huddled together but had the look of people riding a particularly intense roller coaster or shroom trip

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Grand Fromage posted:

You can do it from the Japanese Tabelog if the restaurant allows it, but not on the English site. However since you're on your computer you can use the googles to puzzle through, I was able to manage that way.

This was pretty much what I thought.

Although interesting development -- Tabelog app integrates with Apple Maps, which in turn lets you create reservations right there. Going to try this in two weeks, may prevent me from needing to muck around in the JP app.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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Martytoof posted:

This was pretty much what I thought.

Although interesting development -- Tabelog app integrates with Apple Maps, which in turn lets you create reservations right there. Going to try this in two weeks, may prevent me from needing to muck around in the JP app.

Orly?

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


d0s posted:

I remember in 2004 or 2005 being in times square for new years and seeing groups of bewildered and terrified older Japanese on some kind of package tour with the matching hats etc. They were standing still all huddled together but had the look of people riding a particularly intense roller coaster or shroom trip

https://youtu.be/_CB7V26jyxc

Also Paris, lol.

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer
One of the cruise ship terminals in Stockholm has 4 lines reserved specifically for asian tourist groups (1 for Koreans, 1 for Chinese and 2 for Japanese), and we're nowhere near them. Last I was there, I think there were maybe 3 such groups of 15-20 people each, complete with guides. Apart from occasionally blocking the way, they were probably better behaved than the Swedes and Finns.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

as an american I will take any asian tourists over a particular type of sloppy drunk european tourist. though I'm sure europe gets an identical share of sloppy drunk american tourists

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

When we landed in Hiroshima, the people in the rows behind us, literally would not let me get out of my seat to get my bag and kept moving past me. I looked at my wife like "WTF" and she said, "Chinese tourists. Push into them." and so I did. Sure as poo poo, any time we ran into a group of rude asians that would cut in line, or bodily push past you, invariably they were Chinese.

There's my borderline racist story about my time in Japan.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Nah it's not racist, it's China. Learning to shove is a valuable life skill there. Just the way the place works and if you don't do it you'll be screwed.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Yah never mind, it dumps you back into tabelog to finish the reservation so I guess I could put in the effort to just understand tabelog in general rather than trying to find dumb workarounds.

Question Mark Mound
Jun 14, 2006

Tokyo Crystal Mew
Dancing Godzilla
Anyone ever been to that Yurei Izakaya horror restaurant place? https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g1060900-d1676913-Reviews-Kichijoji_Yurei-Musashino_Tokyo_Prefecture_Kanto.html

It looks like cool tacky fun and I was thinking it might be a neat place to take my friend for her 40th birthday this October. Just curious as to whether us only having pretty basic Japanese might make the whole experience a bit less fun by not always knowing what's going on.

Also, is it the kind of place you'd need to book in advance or could we just waltz up on the day?

DracoArgentum
May 29, 2011

Question Mark Mound posted:

Anyone ever been to that Yurei Izakaya horror restaurant place? https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g1060900-d1676913-Reviews-Kichijoji_Yurei-Musashino_Tokyo_Prefecture_Kanto.html

It looks like cool tacky fun and I was thinking it might be a neat place to take my friend for her 40th birthday this October. Just curious as to whether us only having pretty basic Japanese might make the whole experience a bit less fun by not always knowing what's going on.

Also, is it the kind of place you'd need to book in advance or could we just waltz up on the day?

I went just recently actually! It's pretty amusing. There's just a few themed foods but the atmosphere really makes it. The price is really good for the amount of food as well, unlike many themed places. For birthdays you need to reserve in advance. I think it said at least three days, but I don't recall exactly. If the birthday that was there when we visited is an accurate representation there is a jelly brain involved. Definitely get the course for a party. The russian roulette food includes a funeral for the loser.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




So how is the Tokyo Skytree for a touristy kind of attraction? Annnnnnd my friend mentioned an aquarium but I forget if it was in Tokyo or Kyoto..?

My trip is now in less than 2 weeks and holy hell can I not wait.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Now that I'm back in the US, do you guys want to hear my thoughts on being at Tokyo, or will I just come across as lame and annoying?

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Johnny Truant posted:

So how is the Tokyo Skytree for a touristy kind of attraction? Annnnnnd my friend mentioned an aquarium but I forget if it was in Tokyo or Kyoto..?

My trip is now in less than 2 weeks and holy hell can I not wait.

Skytree is...it's really tall. But nothing else is nearby, so if it's a cloudy day, you won't really have much for comparison. The Tokyo Metropolitan Building is in Shinjuku, so lots of other skyscrapers nearby, and has a good view of Fuji on a clear day. Oh, and it's also free, whereas Skytree is something like $25 to go up. There is an aquarium at Skytree (along with like four or five others in the general area) but it'd be a separate fee to get in, and the central attraction for it is a penguin pool, so judge whether that's of interest. Tokyo doesn't have the best of the aquariums in Japan (Churaumi in Okinawa is tops, and the one in Osaka is runner up) but there are a bunch of them.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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punk rebel ecks posted:

Now that I'm back in the US, do you guys want to hear my thoughts on being at Tokyo, or will I just come across as lame and annoying?

Go nuts.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
When I went to skytree last year there was a cool university robotics exhibition at the top floor of one (?) of the buildings attached, though I don’t know if it was permanent or just temporary. They had a really cool Macross cockpit mockup. I was super interested in it and the guys running the exhibit let me cross the crowd barrier and climb the ladder so I could look inside and take photos as long as I didn’t post them anywhere. That’s my cool skytree story, thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Johnny Truant posted:

So how is the Tokyo Skytree for a touristy kind of attraction? Annnnnnd my friend mentioned an aquarium but I forget if it was in Tokyo or Kyoto..?

My trip is now in less than 2 weeks and holy hell can I not wait.

Skytree is neat and I don’t regret going but as mentioned there are other places you could go as well. The line was 45 minutes which was pretty much the limit of our patience. You can get express tickets but they cost more and was starting to get to the not really worth it range unless you really want to go.

There are some other things and touristy shopping to see nearby so it’s probably worth a morning if you go when the weather is good.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

- The country, at least Tokyo, is super advanced. I heard of other nations being ahead of America but it has to be experienced to truly understand. A city designed solely around walkability. Public transportation with speed, pricing, and reliability that makes cars antique. Not an inch of building space not used for retail.

- Toilets are like from some a sci-fi movie. Heated seats. Butt bidets. Noise makers. Remote control lids. I'm not sure whether I should be impressed or baffled.

- While the Japanese people may initially seem cold, if you have a basic conversation, as in say a few Japanese words, they become extremely nice and friendly.

- The entire city is super clean, which is a bit odd as it is near impossible to find a trash can anywhere.

- It's also difficult to find a toilet and drinking fountains.

- The food is delicious. They say Tokyo outranks Paris as the best city for food and I can imagine. So many good restaurants and eats.

- I'm going to get eye rolls for this, but the women are absolutely gorgeous. I've never been to a city with so many beautiful women. It made me jealous. :(

- Arcades are everywhere. That said in terms of "new games", it's always the same dozen games or so. I didn't realize that such few companies made modern arcade games in Japan.

- There's almost an endless amount of things to do and see.

- A near cash only society sucks, I prefer using cards.

- It gets very lonely not being able to speak the language. Despite being surrounded by a sea of people I felt alone. There were at times I was sitting across from people and I would want to talk to them, and vice versa, but I knew I couldn't. Makes me really emphatic to non-English speaking immigrants in my country.

- Despite many obvious cultural differences, I didn't feel that day to day life in Japan was THAT removed from America. Maybe I would have to live there for a bit to see. But I really felt that "they were all people just like me, just from a different place".

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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punk rebel ecks posted:

- The country, at least Tokyo, is super advanced. I heard of other nations being ahead of America but it has to be experienced to truly understand. A city designed solely around walkability. Public transportation with speed, pricing, and reliability that makes cars antique. Not an inch of building space not used for retail.
Every nation is ahead of America.

punk rebel ecks posted:

- Toilets are like from some a sci-fi movie. Heated seats. Butt bidets. Noise makers. Remote control lids. I'm not sure whether I should be impressed or baffled.
Impressed.

punk rebel ecks posted:

- While the Japanese people may initially seem cold, if you have a basic conversation, as in say a few Japanese words, they become extremely nice and friendly.
They're still cold.

punk rebel ecks posted:

- The entire city is super clean, which is a bit odd as it is near impossible to find a trash can anywhere.
Don't check the rivers.

punk rebel ecks posted:

- It's also difficult to find a toilet and drinking fountains.
Agreed.

punk rebel ecks posted:

- The food is delicious. They say Tokyo outranks Paris as the best city for food and I can imagine. So many good restaurants and eats.
Agreed.

punk rebel ecks posted:

- I'm going to get eye rolls for this, but the women are absolutely gorgeous. I've never been to a city with so many beautiful women. It made me jealous. :(
It's a very sexist society so women have incentives to dress well and wear lots of makeup.

punk rebel ecks posted:

- Arcades are everywhere. That said in terms of "new games", it's always the same dozen games or so. I didn't realize that such few companies made modern arcade games in Japan.
Swap arcade with smartphone and subtract the resources needed and you have an answer I think?

punk rebel ecks posted:

- There's almost an endless amount of things to do and see.
Agreed.

punk rebel ecks posted:

- A near cash only society sucks, I prefer using cards.
I like using cash, but I hate ATM fees so agreed?

punk rebel ecks posted:

- It gets very lonely not being able to speak the language. Despite being surrounded by a sea of people I felt alone. There were at times I was sitting across from people and I would want to talk to them, and vice versa, but I knew I couldn't. Makes me really emphatic to non-English speaking immigrants in my country.
Being able to speak the language actually makes it worse.

punk rebel ecks posted:

- Despite many obvious cultural differences, I didn't feel that day to day life in Japan was THAT removed from America. Maybe I would have to live there for a bit to see. But I really felt that "they were all people just like me, just from a different place".
Agreed.

highme
May 25, 2001


I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


punk rebel ecks posted:

- I'm going to get eye rolls for this, but the women are absolutely gorgeous. I've never been to a city with so many beautiful women. It made me jealous. :(

Oh man, Japanese women snowboarders are my loving kryptonite.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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highme posted:

Oh man, Japanese women snowboarders are my loving kryptonite.

Oh, cool, you hate self-entitled bitches sitting in the absolute center of a piste for two hours straight too.

highme
May 25, 2001


I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


I've only been to Niseko & there was a solid crew of 8-10 girls that were killing it. Since I don't go to Japan to ride groomers I'm not terribly put out by this behavior, though I'm sure it's annoying as gently caress.

.Z.
Jan 12, 2008

Stringent posted:

Swap arcade with smartphone and subtract the resources needed and you have an answer I think?

Honestly I figured it was smartphone games (gachapon games) or gambling games (Be it the coin games for kids or pachinko for adults).

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Johnny Truant posted:

So how is the Tokyo Skytree for a touristy kind of attraction? Annnnnnd my friend mentioned an aquarium but I forget if it was in Tokyo or Kyoto..?

My trip is now in less than 2 weeks and holy hell can I not wait.

Unless you have a super hardon for penguins the aquarium by the sky tree is kinda small and boring especially for what it costs to get in.

The Kaiyukan one in Osaka however is the tits, it's gigantic and can easily kill most of a day all by itself.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Ah thanks everybody, it was the Osaka one I was recommended by a colleague, I just couldn't remember! And thanks for the Skytree tips, sounds like we'll kind of play it by ear depending on the weather.

I'll try one last time, but anybody got recs for a romantic restaurant somewhere in Tokyo? We scrapped the Ginza Steak idea and are in search of something else. Just wanna try to have a nice anniversary meal, no real specifics other than I guess preferably Japanese cuisine? :3:

I'll ask a question that will get me ridiculed: how do you, uh, use a bidet? Do you spray your bum then.. wipe afterwards? Is it like, a fuckin pressure washer jet right on your browneye? Or does it spray and then a little fan dries you off? I've never used one, and I think the last time I even saw one I was single digits in age. :ohdear:

QuasiQuack
Jun 13, 2010

Ducks hockey baybee
It's better to go in blind, trust me you'll be pleasantly surprised





Maybe in more ways than one :heysexy:

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
I also did not realize that Japan's Nigerian population was somewhat visible. I kind of wanted to ask them how their experiences with the country were.

Hargrimm
Sep 22, 2011

W A R R E N
I happened to visit Skytree by accident right as they were doing the holiday illumination ceremony, complete with a parade of some international beauty pageant contestants, so that was a neat experience. It was at night, so probably less crowded generally but I didn't have to wait in line more than 2 or 3 minutes before getting on the elevator. I think it's a really cool view, and was a nice capper after spending the day mostly in Asakusa.

Also, a pleasant walk away through an urban park area is the new (2015) Tobacco and Salt Museum. I'm a big fan of hyper-specific museums and this fits the bill. Very modern with nice exhibits, all with English available.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




QuasiQuack posted:

It's better to go in blind, trust me you'll be pleasantly surprised





Maybe in more ways than one :heysexy:

Wait the bidets will blind me!? Haha.

Alright, I withdraw my bidet information request, and will post a live update of my first experience on a Japanese toilet.

Hargrimm posted:

Also, a pleasant walk away through an urban park area is the new (2015) Tobacco and Salt Museum. I'm a big fan of hyper-specific museums and this fits the bill. Very modern with nice exhibits, all with English available.

I actually just found out about this place last night! I don't think we'll visit it, but I did a little perusing of their website and learned some interesting stuff.

Slow Graffiti
Feb 1, 2003

Born of Frustration

Hargrimm posted:

Also, a pleasant walk away through an urban park area is the new (2015) Tobacco and Salt Museum. I'm a big fan of hyper-specific museums and this fits the bill. Very modern with nice exhibits, all with English available.

As an addict of both substances, thank you for mentioning this museum. Granted my wife and I hope to quit smoking (again) before we visit in November, but I can sense a lapse when we get there based on the prevalence of smoking.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
japan is good and cool

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Johnny Truant posted:

Ah thanks everybody, it was the Osaka one I was recommended by a colleague, I just couldn't remember! And thanks for the Skytree tips, sounds like we'll kind of play it by ear depending on the weather.

I'll try one last time, but anybody got recs for a romantic restaurant somewhere in Tokyo? We scrapped the Ginza Steak idea and are in search of something else. Just wanna try to have a nice anniversary meal, no real specifics other than I guess preferably Japanese cuisine? :3:


The outdoor cafe at the Godzilla hotel (Gracery) in Shinjuku is great for that ‘dining right behind the head of a kaiju’ romantic feel. And the food was good.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Question Mark Mound posted:

Anyone ever been to that Yurei Izakaya horror restaurant place? https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g1060900-d1676913-Reviews-Kichijoji_Yurei-Musashino_Tokyo_Prefecture_Kanto.html

It looks like cool tacky fun and I was thinking it might be a neat place to take my friend for her 40th birthday this October. Just curious as to whether us only having pretty basic Japanese might make the whole experience a bit less fun by not always knowing what's going on.

Also, is it the kind of place you'd need to book in advance or could we just waltz up on the day?

the Yurei Izakaya is a ton of fun. definitely go.

Blackchamber
Jan 25, 2005

punk rebel ecks posted:

Public transportation with speed, pricing, and reliability that makes cars antique.

This is my biggest complaint about the good ol' US of A. Obviously some places do it better than others here, but the trains in Japan didn't smell like piss, nobody poo poo on the escalators, are pretty clean in addition to the already mentioned piss/poo poo -freeness, not full of loud idiots and pan handlers, on time, and people dont crowd the door so you can get off.

Did I mention the lack of piss and poo poo on every surface? Oh and the lack of murders at the train station, I'm looking at you BART (bay area rapid transit).

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Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Blackchamber posted:

This is my biggest complaint about the good ol' US of A. Obviously some places do it better than others here, but the trains in Japan didn't smell like piss, nobody poo poo on the escalators, are pretty clean in addition to the already mentioned piss/poo poo -freeness, not full of loud idiots and pan handlers, on time, and people dont crowd the door so you can get off.

Did I mention the lack of piss and poo poo on every surface? Oh and the lack of murders at the train station, I'm looking at you BART (bay area rapid transit).

Seattle didn't seem so bad when I was there a while back. Los Angeles and Kansas City were a lot less convenient.

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