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LordSloth
Mar 7, 2008

Disgruntled (IT) Employee
Fire, Water, Earth ritual of Sodden Misery.

A combination of global warming and shifts of the tectonic plates causes the every province to become a shallow sea. Too shallow to drown in, too deep to move more than a province a turn. Can only cast underwater rituals in caves and former deep seas, and land rituals in former mountains and highlands.

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Lando131
Jul 27, 2006

This is one way to find scum...
Since ramc keeps talking about it, how about a pure water global that gives your dudes extra movement underwater?

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company
a Blood+Astral global that does one thing and one thing only: every turn, every player receives an event saying "Look, the game has progressed to the point where people are throwing Astral and Blood Globals around. Are you winning? If not, consider going AI. Save yourself the tedium of late-game Dominions."

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
I was kinda thinking something like:
Astral+Air+Land: All land provinces are adjacent.
Astral+Air+Water: All water provinces are adjacent.

LordSloth
Mar 7, 2008

Disgruntled (IT) Employee

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I was kinda thinking something like:
Astral+Air+Land: All land provinces are adjacent.
Astral+Air+Water: All water provinces are adjacent.

:lol: imagine what that does to cap-only production

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
Oh man I'd kill for poo poo like that in a game.

Natty Ninefingers
Feb 17, 2011

LordSloth posted:

:lol: imagine what that does to cap-only production

Probably something involving an overglow error

Teledahn
May 14, 2009

What is that bear doing there?


That underwater troops are all move 1 really doesn't make any sense. They're all fish fishpeople! They should be just fine at moving underwater or heck, even better. What if aquatic nations and troops were exceptionally mobile in their element, wouldn't that be something. Perhaps then UW nations might be closer to an even field.

LordSloth
Mar 7, 2008

Disgruntled (IT) Employee

Teledahn posted:

That underwater troops are all move 1 really doesn't make any sense. They're all fish fishpeople! They should be just fine at moving underwater or heck, even better. What if aquatic nations and troops were exceptionally mobile in their element, wouldn't that be something. Perhaps then UW nations might be closer to an even field.

I don’t care if most UW troops move 1 as long as shark riders get to move multiple provinces and Atlantis gets kraken mounts to replace the lovely pillars

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=

Ramc posted:

About halfway through this game an update went in that made it so Soul Slay for-real kills immortals no-reviving which is nice.

Water and UW in general needs some huge mobility buffs for aquatic nations. Unless you are undead or a ghost apparently moving more than one space at a time underwater is some sort of unfathomable dream even if you are like a shark or a horse or something man I don't know.

"Ramc just put boots of quickness on your commanders" don't worry the devs thought of that too- like 95% of UW commanders do not have feet. Ariel was right: Flippin' your fins you don't get too far.

Copper feet

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
All amphibious troops keep their poo poo move, aquatic troops move two or three. Make some items that allow N size of amphib troops to count as aquatic. Cast the gloop global to slow everything down by thickening the ocean. Fill the deep ocean with undersea volcanoes and aquatic horrors.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
But an ocean full of volcanoes and deep sea horrors is an ocean. What has changed :confused:

Ramc
May 4, 2008

Bringing your thread to a screeching halt, guaranteed.

quote:

Kremath
I'm beginning to feel sorry for marginon

what the

Anyway it is Turn 29



This looks pretty unremarkable on the face of it.



The classic double vent as the kids say. Each of these is +1 pearl a turn.



Another +1 pearl site. Pearls galore.




We dive back into the sea on the other side of those amber clan in the Jotun zone and yeah they had no chance.



Jotun is attempting a breakout and this looks really one sided. I almost just kind of fast forward through it but I wonder what the stick guy has for paths and...



:siren: OH HOLD UP WE GOT OURSELVES A THUG HERE :siren:

Haha ok and he's the prophet too but then why give him a shroud when he should be auto-blessed anyway? Well anyway is he a GOOD THUG let's see. It's time to be judgmental.



A heart finder sword is sort of cool but probably not ideal for killing 1000 chaff. When you hit for like 35 damage they gonna die no matter what
like so-



The sword is more of a counter for thugs like Phelegra's Tyrants.



This is better than nothing! The counter curse probably does not matter because, again, an increased affliction chance doesn't really matter to someone who is dead in one hit regardless.



Ok the fear hat is actually good as he will want to break the morale of the cowardly slaves for the rout.



This is sort of pointless for a prophet and depending on their natural armor possibly worse. It has 0 encumbrance I guess. In case you are unfamiliar, the shroud makes it so the unit always carries the bless of their Pretender God, even if they are not sacred themselves. A prophet is innately always blessed though.



Reinvigoration is good as you don't want to get too tired killing one troop at a time.

My thug verdict- He is OKAY but... uh without fire resistance he is probably hosed because...



The flaming arrows(javelins) caster is still there.



About this time I notice that uh hey why are some helote warriors all purple is that decay?


:a second thug appears in the bushes to my flank: clever girl



haha oh my god check out the flavor text on this thing i love it


CURSED FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. BUT THOSE LIVES MAY BE VERY SHORT BECAUSE

The Doom Glaive is my new favorite thug weapon.



Anyway, uh, things don't go so hot. Doom Glaive guy goes down in a hail of flaming javelins. The prophet thug WHO DOES NOT HAVE A COOL NAME BY THE WAY catches a chest wound and his morale breaks. The dude flees back into the fort



YOU CAN TURN INTO A WEREWOLF??? GET BACK INTO THE FRAY YOU INCREDIBLE COWARD.


i cant even



The capital remains seiged but not breached for now. The thugs killed like 6 dudes between them which is not a good look.




I clear more indies in the phaecia zone.

On to events!




Um... ok challenge accepted.



Being a slob continues to pay incredible dividends.



I love trade now.



RIP he caught a disease of old age last winter I think. Diseased units lose 10% of their hit points every turn and do not recover lost hit points at the end of every month like (most) normal units do.



Overview.



I am moving down this way now also hey it is Vanheim.



This is the site in the province I just took. Resources are nice for me and water gems are always useful.



Behold Vanheim who is AI apparently now but apparently it used to be Cryle BreadBread. Vanheim is one of those glamour elf nations that makes them hard to see on the strategic map and also have the benefit of sailing which can make them even more irritating to deal with if there is a sea. Vanheim, and most elf nations, are considered pretty strong. They tend to have good sacreds and good wizards and a lot of mobility. This Vanheim clearly wasn't able to leverage these things as well as they hoped. The good van troops tend to be a bit spendy too if I remember right.



I am about to make a fort here when I notice my mermage is diseased... but he isn't an old man. Then I notice the death scales on the province. WELL OF PESTILENCE I guess. I move my dude SE to make the fort there instead because nnnnope. The Well of Pestilence is a site that gives +1 death gems when found but also spreads diseases and increases the death scale in the province it is in. If you see a weird high death rating in a province it is probably because of a Well, but there are other less fatal sites that can add death (Dying Forest, a nature site, comes to mind).



Going into this new sea area here. Gonna stretch out. So luxurious. Forevereal expansion. Going to get eyes on the throne and probably set up a fort here too.



Orders overview. I am going to start massing some troops in the south ocean too. Maybe I can lunge the Zeus throne there, or lunge whoever does.

Ramc fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Apr 22, 2019

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
bread bread went ai because i owned him with the secret magic of lots and lots of skeletons. ctis is power

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=
Is that really a death explosion bless without fire res?

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous

I love this so much :allears:

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

my dad posted:

I love this so much :allears:

We're trying to get a goon game running where everyone is forced to take the Death Explosion bless. Sadly, there are still a lot of open slots. We need more players!

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
i've settled on urd because the best use of expensive berserkering giant sacreds is having them suicide bomb the enemy, right

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Kitfox88 posted:

i've settled on urd because the best use of expensive berserkering giant sacreds is having them suicide bomb the enemy, right

The explosions scale with size now so a big explodes aren't terrible.

It's still a bless that requires you die so it's going to pretty much always be bad overall.

Rockopolis
Dec 21, 2012

I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird
Too bad you can't stack it with Undying and regeneration so you end up with units that explode, regen to positive hp, and then explode some more.

Ramc
May 4, 2008

Bringing your thread to a screeching halt, guaranteed.

gonadic io posted:

Is that really a death explosion bless without fire res?

search your heart my friend

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
I really enjoy the fire elemental appearing and walking through afterward. "WASN'T ME GUYS!" :allears:

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
Is there a way to make skele spam explode.

Ramc
May 4, 2008

Bringing your thread to a screeching halt, guaranteed.

Telsa Cola posted:

Is there a way to make skele spam explode.

Kind of if by skelespam you mean sacred Chinese ancestor ghost spam

Ramc
May 4, 2008

Bringing your thread to a screeching halt, guaranteed.

Sage Grimm posted:

I really enjoy the fire elemental appearing and walking through afterward. "WASN'T ME GUYS!" :allears:

"Well well well..."

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Telsa Cola posted:

Is there a way to make skele spam explode.

Not skeletons exactly, but you could chain-cast Wrath of the Ancestors, which spits out 20+ sacred ghosts per spell. If you have the explode on death bless and a divine caster to keep blessing those ghosts, well things will certainly get interesting on the battlefield. (Only valid for the like 3 nations that can use this spell.)



Ramc posted:

Kind of if by skelespam you mean sacred Chinese ancestor ghost spam

Death 1 and 1 death gem for 20+ ghosts. That's kind of hilariously effective. :v:

ousire
Dec 11, 2013

Now, Red! Seal the deal with a catchy one-liner!
Is it possible the shroud on the prophet is there to make sure he stays blessed in werewolf form? Because of all the wacky coding in Dominions I could believe that when he transforms into werewolf form, he might be considered a new/different unit and not the prophet or blessed anymore.

Or maybe his old prophet died and he just decided to prophetize some big thug he had laying around and it was stuck with the shroud on? :shrug:

Xerophyte
Mar 17, 2008

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ousire posted:

Is it possible the shroud on the prophet is there to make sure he stays blessed in werewolf form? Because of all the wacky coding in Dominions I could believe that when he transforms into werewolf form, he might be considered a new/different unit and not the prophet or blessed anymore.

Or maybe his old prophet died and he just decided to prophetize some big thug he had laying around and it was stuck with the shroud on? :shrug:

Pretty sure blesses carry over to second forms, or there would be a lot of angry Mictlans since Jaguar Warriors would stop being absurdly good.

Suicide explosion tactics are dear to me after I got my second Dom3 goongame victory on the back of the Phoenix pretender having innate immortality + autocasting the explode and revive buff every combat in whatever mod that was. I used him as a feathery cruise missile to clear out most of the PD in a province on his own without needing any major investment. He racked up something like 30 deaths by the end of year 1; I suspect people might've cottoned on to my cunning plan even though I cleverly named him Totally Not a Phoenix to throw them off the scent.

LordSloth
Mar 7, 2008

Disgruntled (IT) Employee
For what it's worth, I tried an explosion bless with Machakan Black Hunter Spiders, and I was very sad. The rider dying doesn't get you a free kaboom.

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Please remember to put FR on your C4 ghosts or they will absolutely chain explode like our flagellant friends.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Nuclearmonkee posted:

The explosions scale with size now so a big explodes aren't terrible.

It's still a bless that requires you die so it's going to pretty much always be bad overall.

its okay i stacked it with regen for the most effect out of them

edit: maybe i should play caelum or something instead, i hate waiting for games to start im so indecisive

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous
The ultimate suicide bless is air 4 for charged bodies, fire 5 for kaboom, blood 8 for blood vengeance, astral 7 for fateweaving (reducing enemy magic and elemental resistance rolls for a few turns when they attack you), and optional earth 5 for basic chain explosion aversion and giving your sacreds a 50% chance of not getting zapped by their own bless, add 1 extra air to make it closer to 90%.

LA Marignon would be able to potentially get this with only moderately trashed scales, and playing LA Marignon is pretty much suicide anyway.

my dad fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Apr 22, 2019

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

my dad posted:


LA Marignon would be able to potentially get this with only moderately trashed scales, and playing LA Marignon is pretty much suicide anyway.

Presumably due to them being a blood/astral nation that's somewhat weak at the beginning (moreso than several other LA blood nations, at least), and thus tend to get dogpiled by their neighbors? Or is it something else?

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Kitfox88 posted:

its okay i stacked it with regen for the most effect out of them

edit: maybe i should play caelum or something instead, i hate waiting for games to start im so indecisive

Too late, Mr. Indecisive! Someone else already grabbed LA Caelum in Boom

But I think you could still join another game with Caelum and still take a deathsplosion bless to be with us in spirit

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Libluini posted:

Too late, Mr. Indecisive! Someone else already grabbed LA Caelum in Boom

But I think you could still join another game with Caelum and still take a deathsplosion bless to be with us in spirit

someone forgot about ragha :devil: just need some of those cold scales and then I can get on my charged body booms

Ramc
May 4, 2008

Bringing your thread to a screeching halt, guaranteed.

Explode on death EA Caelum?



hmmm... i mean maybe it could work...




maybe...

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Libluini posted:

We're trying to get a goon game running where everyone is forced to take the Death Explosion bless. Sadly, there are still a lot of open slots. We need more players!

Is there a link to this game? Tempted to get back into this...

I ride bikes all day
Sep 10, 2007

I shitposted in the same thread for 2 years and all I got was this red text av. Ask me about my autism!



College Slice

ousire posted:

Is it possible the shroud on the prophet is there to make sure he stays blessed in werewolf form? Because of all the wacky coding in Dominions I could believe that when he transforms into werewolf form, he might be considered a new/different unit and not the prophet or blessed anymore.

Or maybe his old prophet died and he just decided to prophetize some big thug he had laying around and it was stuck with the shroud on? :shrug:

Snuggie for Dogs posted:

I'm Jotunheim in this. This is my first game of dominions so if it looks like I'm failing to understand basic game mechanics, I probably am! I copied the in-game tutorial to choose my nation and make my pretender.

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

Ramc posted:

Explode on death EA Caelum?



hmmm... i mean maybe it could work...




maybe...



I wish I knew enough to know what this means, it looks funny

not "Rainbow Dash The Archangel Getting Killed By A Mage Who Turned Into A Turkey" funny, but funny

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senrath
Nov 4, 2009

Look Professor, a destruct switch!


It means he won a game playing as EA Caelum with a focus on the explode on death bless.

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