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Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Humphreys posted:

He really is great with his content and research. Pretty much the same level of focus as 'My Life In Gaming' and their never ending obcession with RGB.

Turns out the Onkyo LD player I bought a few weeks ago is a rebranded Pioneer so I am a very happy camper and it plays PAL and NTSC. I would like to find an ISO of a CD-V though to burn and test. No not VCD.

CDV is physically the (analog) LaserDisc format on the outer portion of a (digital) audio CD. I don't think any standard CD burner could create the video portion of a CDV disc.

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Humphreys posted:

He really is great with his content and research.

poo poo youtubers have lowered the bar so much that "doing research" is the new "doing great research". I guess it's because research is actual work.

I'm assuming it's off-site money, i.e. Patreon, that makes it possible for guys like TechCon to actually produce content instead of "producing content" because they'll never make PewDiePie subscribers?

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Foone on Twitter is a quality follow; they spend a lot of time reverse-engineering old video game code.

https://twitter.com/ChartreuseK/status/1119314467823570944

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Jerry Cotton posted:

poo poo youtubers have lowered the bar so much that "doing research" is the new "doing great research". I guess it's because research is actual work.

I'm assuming it's off-site money, i.e. Patreon, that makes it possible for guys like TechCon to actually produce content instead of "producing content" because they'll never make PewDiePie subscribers?

Jesus dude why are you always just so loving negative, lovely and contrarian?

They literally say how they make their money in most of the video descriptions; it's usually Patreon.

These dudes do better research than your posting.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
While coarse, the poster is right that the great beast of attention requires a bunch if content always. It's not possible to take your time under the lovely model that PDP works under.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
That Sunbeam toaster... :stare:

Lazlo Nibble
Jan 9, 2004

It was Weasleby, by God! At last I had the miserable blighter precisely where I wanted him!

Mr.Radar posted:

CDV is physically the (analog) LaserDisc format on the outer portion of a (digital) audio CD. I don't think any standard CD burner could create the video portion of a CDV disc.
Yup, you’d need an actual pressed CD-V. If you just want one to test your player with and don’t care about the actual artist/music, you can probably find a cheap one on eBay with some digging. (They’ve definitely been discovered by the collector’s market though.)

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

OK so if you felt attacked by my "YouTube is shirt but this guy isnt" post you can literally go fuxj yourself.

We all can it's really nice.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Jerry Cotton posted:

OK so if you felt attacked by my "YouTube is shirt but this guy isnt" post you can literally go fuxj yourself.

We all can it's really nice.

Is this a #justfinnishthings... thing? At this point I'd believe any thing you'd say.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

madeintaipei posted:

Is this a #justfinnishthings... thing? At this point I'd believe any thing you'd say.

I'm just very old so I'm used to very very very different standards of communication on the Inetret.

Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy

Dick Trauma posted:

That Sunbeam toaster... :stare:

Right? It’s genius.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
The Radiant Control toaster is an engineering masterpiece.

That said, I think the drawbacks of the ordinary toaster are overstated.

Pushing the lever down is no hassle.

My toast never gets flung clear of the toaster.

I don’t have problems with consistency unless the darkness knob is adjusted, but that’s a problem the RCT shares. The potentiometer in a normal toaster is probably more consistent when returned to the same position than bimetallic‐strip‐tensioning system used in the RCT, too.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Jerry Cotton posted:

I'm just very old so I'm used to very very very different standards of communication on the Inetret.

Look I'm sorry. It sounded like a very cynical way of saying what you reinforced was your more positively stated point later.

I honestly haven't considered potential generational gaps either. I'm sorry.

Platystemon posted:

The Radiant Control toaster is an engineering masterpiece.

That said, I think the drawbacks of the ordinary toaster are overstated.

Pushing the lever down is no hassle.

My toast never gets flung clear of the toaster.

I don’t have problems with consistency unless the darkness knob is adjusted, but that’s a problem the RCT shares. The potentiometer in a normal toaster is probably more consistent when returned to the same position than bimetallic‐strip‐tensioning system used in the RCT, too.

I felt like the benefits of the automation are a little over stated while understating some of the drawbacks and dangers of the old model.

I was rather excited to research it more and I'm a huge fan of the thermostat design, but I'm hesitant in some of the potential work and drawbacks.

Wasabi the J has a new favorite as of 08:54 on Apr 22, 2019

Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy

Wasabi the J posted:

I felt like the benefits of the automation are a little over stated while understating some of the drawbacks and dangers of the old model.

I was rather excited to research it more and I'm a huge fan of the thermostat design, but I'm hesitant in some of the potential work and drawbacks.

It’s not the automation. I think most of us have the energy to push down the toast lever. It’s the cleverness in how that automation was achieved. Most of the flaws seem trivial to fix.

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

Johnny Aztec posted:

I have format that he hasn't done (that I didnt see after a search) that is also non-existent.

I forgot the manufacturer's name, but it's just "Video Disc". I have a player, more or less, brand new in the box.

It has very little info on it, because no media was EVER produced for it. Oh, there was some in-house stuff done, but it ended up so dead-in-the-water stillborn garbage that no one even looked at it.


Don't think it ever actually even got to the market, and they just dumped all their inventory of the machines.

They existed for a bit in the 80's and disappeared. For some reason, the Fargo library invested heavily in them and there were stacks of movies available to check out along with the player. They were read with a stylus like a record and you put them into a caddy to play them. If you ever let sun touch them, they would warp and be useless.

The parents of one of my best friends in high school decided to buy a player when it first came out in the '80s and a bunch of movies. It is unclear as to why they did this and they cannot explain it either. They made a special cabinet to keep them out of the sun so they stayed even temperature. The only one that survived by the time we played with it in the mid '90s was Top Gun. I think it was on something like 3 disks. You had to flip the disks like crazy and it was atrocious quality. It was kind of light fighting with an old school Nintendo cartridge. Lot's of blowing on it and re-trying.

It was better than VCD though. That was a real piece of poo poo format.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
You're thinking of CEDs, which are hilarious in their very existence.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

Platystemon posted:

The Radiant Control toaster is an engineering masterpiece.

That said, I think the drawbacks of the ordinary toaster are overstated.

Pushing the lever down is no hassle.

My toast never gets flung clear of the toaster.

I don’t have problems with consistency unless the darkness knob is adjusted, but that’s a problem the RCT shares. The potentiometer in a normal toaster is probably more consistent when returned to the same position than bimetallic‐strip‐tensioning system used in the RCT, too.

Technology Connections kind of does this a fair bit. He's well researched but he very much loves his hyperbole.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


A computer parts liquidator stocked a bunch of vcd movies that worked with my DVD player in the early 2000s. They looked to be officially pressed but they weren't regular cases, just plastic CD envelopes and they cost like $2. Looked about the same quality as VHS on our late-80s TV.

That is my vcd ramble thanks for reading

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Grand Prize Winner posted:

A computer parts liquidator stocked a bunch of vcd movies that worked with my DVD player in the early 2000s. They looked to be officially pressed but they weren't regular cases, just plastic CD envelopes and they cost like $2. Looked about the same quality as VHS on our late-80s TV.

That is my vcd ramble thanks for reading

I ripped Fellowship of the Rings down to single side VCD size and it was absolutely terrible quality.

Also thanks for those who answered my question about CDVs.

Exit Strategy
Dec 10, 2010

by sebmojo

ishikabibble posted:

Technology Connections kind of does this a fair bit. He's well researched but he very much loves his hyperbole.

To be fair the fully-automatic toaster and its hilarious ability to electrocute absolutely anyone stupid enough to insert a knife into it is a pretty cool thing. I respect and enjoy that the thing is only a melted bit of rubber away from being a complete deathtrap.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Humphreys posted:

I ripped Fellowship of the Rings down to single side VCD size and it was absolutely terrible quality.

Also thanks for those who answered my question about CDVs.

I recently went back and looked at some old movies I'd had on my hard drive since college... god drat, a 20" CRT smoothed over an awful lot of problems compared to a 42" LCD.

SubNat
Nov 27, 2008

Back when I lived in Mongolia, my parents bought a stereo system explicitly because it had VideoCD support, which was pretty much the only film format you could get over there in the late 90s.

It was pretty huge in Asia, I always found it kind of strange how europe stuck with VHS until DVD eventually took over.

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


SubNat posted:

Back when I lived in Mongolia, my parents bought a stereo system explicitly because it had VideoCD support, which was pretty much the only film format you could get over there in the late 90s.

It was pretty huge in Asia, I always found it kind of strange how europe the rest of the world stuck with VHS until DVD eventually took over.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

My first DVD player (from 2001) supported Video CD. When I figured out that there was a format I could play on my DVD player which I could burn using my boring old CD burner (didn't get a DVD burner for a long time) I burned some music videos I :filez:d with Gnutella onto a VCD. The videos were pretty poor quality so I don't think anything was lost by putting them onto VCD! If I'd been really cool I would have just had a PC hooked up to my TV via S-Video.

Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy
I remember downloading movies split into two 700mb chunks intended to be put onto VCD.

The last movie I saw this way was There Will Be Blood, surprisingly enough. I mean, I had a CRT, why would I spend the hard drive space on anything more? :v:

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I used to copy all my NetFlix DVD's using DVD Shrink. I tried to copy them as fast as possible so I could get the next movie from my queue, so I usually never watched the movies I paid to rent and spent hours duplicating. I'll still stumble across my rips and think to myself, I really should get around to watching this.

mystes
May 31, 2006

VCD was mpeg1 so even at two cds per movie it was terrible quality. I'm sure it was more convenient to bootleg than vhs tapes, but it's no surprise that the format didn't take off in places where bootleg vcds weren't commonly available.

mystes has a new favorite as of 14:57 on Apr 23, 2019

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Krispy Wafer posted:

I used to copy all my NetFlix DVD's using DVD Shrink. I tried to copy them as fast as possible so I could get the next movie from my queue, so I usually never watched the movies I paid to rent and spent hours duplicating. I'll still stumble across my rips and think to myself, I really should get around to watching this.

I would have my laptop rip overnight only movies in my car while getting my haircut or do shopping and return before an hour and swap for another movie. I'd also rent like 5 PS2 games and dump them to my PS-HDD

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
When I first got an iPod Video I ripped Blade Runner down to the appropriate screen size to watch it on there just because.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Dick Trauma posted:

When I first got an iPod Video I ripped Blade Runner down to the appropriate screen size to watch it on there just because.

I watched the entirety of Clone High on a fat iPod Nano. The entire time deluding myself that this was somehow a good experience.

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


mystes posted:

VCD was mpeg1 so even at two cds per movie it was terrible quality. I'm sure it was more convenient to bootleg than vhs tapes, but it's no surprise that the format didn't take off in places where bootleg vcds weren't commonly available.

Yeah, but it made grabbing them off of Hotline and Carracho that much easier.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
Obsolete: Watching tv or movies on a screen larger than your wrist.

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off

ryonguy posted:

Obsolete: Watching tv or movies on a screen larger than your wrist.

You have some fat wrists

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

SubNat posted:

I always found it kind of strange how europe stuck with VHS until DVD eventually took over.

Because VCD looked like dogshit and you had to swap discs in the middle of the film?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Maybe the VCR craze skipped Mongolia and they only jumped in around the time VCD's came out. In Western countries everyone had a VCR and a particle board shelf full crammed full of VHS tapes plus tens of thousands of retail locations dedicated to selling or renting us more tapes. No one was going to switch formats to a disc based system that was clunky and looked the same or worse. They already tried it with a disc based system that was clunky but looked better and no one wanted it.

I only ever saw VCD's at the local Electronics Boutique and even the official ones sold at mainstream stores looked like crummy bootlegs.

SubNat
Nov 27, 2008

Sweevo posted:

Because VCD looked like dogshit and you had to swap discs in the middle of the film?

The last time I looked at a VCD was probably in 2001-2002, so I have the barest rememberance of how the quality was.
They were fine enough in an age where I put up with anime the size of postage stamps, encoded in RealMedia video. :v:

How well did recorded VHS stack up against it?


Krispy Wafer posted:

Maybe the VCR craze skipped Mongolia and they only jumped in around the time VCD's came out.

Extremely possible, the modern, democratic Mongolia only really emerged at the start of the 90s, so it's not impossible that VHS just never got a foothold there due to economic or communist reasons before that.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

On a mid 90s CRT TV using composite video the quality difference between a VCD and recorded VHS wasn't that large and VCDs were far more convenient to make and play (except for disc swapping, admittedly). From 1999-2003ish I used VCDs a lot to play converted divx movies on my DVD player, once DVD burners and DVDRs started becoming affordable I switched to those. Even that was pretty short lived though, once I got an XBOX, modded it and installed XBMP/XBMC I only ever burned stuff for other people.

SCheeseman has a new favorite as of 21:06 on Apr 23, 2019

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
According to Wikipedia, VHS had a resolution of approximately 333x480 for NTSC and 335x576 for PAL (though, being an analog format, digital resolution equivalents depend a lot on the quality of the equipment and recording). VCD was 352x240 for NTSC and 352x288 for PAL. In practice, on period-appropriate displays, they do appear to be pretty close despite VCDs having half the vertical resolution.

Techmoan has a video where he compares VCD to UHD BluRay. Apparently they still make official VCDs for some markets in Asia, like Hong Kong where he imported his example VCD from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7PbQTlv5ig

Edit: for some reason that video reminded me of his 2017 April Fool's day video where he demonstrated the difference between standard HD and UHD... using a Fisher Price PXL-2000 as his camera:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_si3xAoTeM

Mr.Radar has a new favorite as of 21:29 on Apr 23, 2019

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
I legit was surprised when I saw that VCD was just a format, and not just what you called porn from Japan, because that was literally the only thing I ever saw on it.

Gaming Historian released a video today that made me think of this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvws5tOHsEE

Will the parade of failed NES addons ever end?

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

twistedmentat posted:

I legit was surprised when I saw that VCD was just a format, and not just what you called porn from Japan, because that was literally the only thing I ever saw on it.

Porn from Japan already has its own TLA.

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