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Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Barudak posted:

Id like her to be less horny and named Sidney

Well at that point you've changed literally every part of the character's initial design pitch, so we might as well start over.

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Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Barudak posted:

Id like her to be less horny and named Sidney

Yeah the pulling back on having a lady Cid at the last minute was pretty lovely too. :sigh:

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Cleretic posted:

Well at that point you've changed literally every part of the character's initial design pitch, so we might as well start over.

Que? As I understand the original pitch was simply "this time Cid is a lady" which seems like a fairly broad brush to work with.

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!
Also I don't remember her being horny at all. She looked like she was dressed by a horny boy, but she seemed to act completely oblivious to any and all come-ons or innuendo.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Schwartzcough posted:

Also I don't remember her being horny at all. She looked like she was dressed by a horny boy, but she seemed to act completely oblivious to any and all come-ons or innuendo.

Yes that is what I meant, I was using the internet meme slang version of horny, sorry for the confusion.

Merilan
Mar 7, 2019

Yeah she dresses sexy but the boys don't do or say gross things around her and treat her with respect and I'm ok with that

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Prompto's crush is adorable

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

Should've just met in the middle and called her Cidney.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
Sexy is fine but like, gods man, they could have demonstrated the smallest amount of restraint instead of just making her look as trashy as humanly possible. Just my opinion.

Merilan
Mar 7, 2019

I gots some real bad news for you if that's as trashy as you can humanly think is possible

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
Okay, thanks for your input I guess.

e: *pushes up glasses* heh, there are in fact even trashier costume designs that exist in the world, checkmate

Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Apr 23, 2019

morallyobjected
Nov 3, 2012
she's barely any more exposed than Kuja is

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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But they'll never Beetus

morallyobjected posted:

she's barely any more exposed than Kuja is



Cool, and?

morallyobjected
Nov 3, 2012

DrNutt posted:

Cool, and?

just seems like a weird complaint in a series that has shown pretty much zero restraint for any gender in terms of clothing design, from the skimpy to the absolute stupid like Tidus' uneven shorts and whatever is going on with Nooj

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!
I could appreciate Kuja as a character if they didn't make him look like a total slut.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

morallyobjected posted:

just seems like a weird complaint in a series that has shown pretty much zero restraint for any gender in terms of clothing design, from the skimpy to the absolute stupid like Tidus' uneven shorts and whatever is going on with Nooj

Uh. These things aren't made in a vacuum and comparing Tidus's shorts to a character who is 110% some 13 year old's masturbatory fantasy is a bit rich. It's not even interesting in anyway or unique to the FF setting, it's just slightly less modest Daisy Duke with big fake tits.

I don't really think it's weird to point out how lovely and lazy a design it is.

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!
It's like everyone forgets noted Final Fantasy character Zardoz

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

morallyobjected posted:

she's barely any more exposed than Kuja is



Even Kuja's covering more skin. Also, Kuja's not really doing any mechanical handiwork and all that to warrant a more practical outfit, he can be as 'Renaissance Age male stripper' as he wants.

His Dissidia alt costumes are consistently way better, though.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
It's just dumb whataboutism anyway. I'm criticizing her design because I'm playing that game right now and it stands out.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Merilan posted:

Yeah Aeris struck me from what I remember as just like being real chuffed about the idea

You get the impression that this is not the first time she's done this.

morallyobjected
Nov 3, 2012

Fister Roboto posted:

You get the impression that this is not the first time she's done this.

another cut scene was a Zach flashback to a very similar contrived scenario to get him in a dress

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Ibblebibble posted:

Should've just met in the middle and called her Cidney.

They did, it's just that Cindy is a weird choice they made in localization.

Son of a Vondruke!
Aug 3, 2012

More than Star Citizen will ever be.

Schwartzcough posted:

It's like everyone forgets noted Final Fantasy character Zardoz


:actually:
He's Zed. Zardoz is this guy.

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

Cindy's outfit is the dumbest thing and constantly just an awkward wtf every time it's on screen. Like hell if she was wearing something sexy but like actual people wear or sexy but high fashion so it looks FF it'd be fine but she's wearing a sexy mechanic halloween costume. It just looks silly.

Also loving lol at bringing 'well what about objectifying men huh?' Jesus people.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Re: Kuja, does anybody have a good take on why that design is the way it is? Because using it as a counterexample is kinda weird, given that people have been making fun of it for being goofy for a very long time. It stands out even more to me because FF9 actually has a lot of cool, intricate costume and design work while FF15... doesn't (it's like everyone shops at the same black leather boutique).

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Because FF9 is the one that stuck closest to Amano's original designs and that's just what his stuff looks like.

FF15 is deliberately going for an Americana vibe which why all the guys have normal looking clothes and Cindy looks like she's from a softcore porn channel

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Just mod her into Big Bird or something.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Sakurazuka posted:

which why all the guys have normal looking clothes

:raise:

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

They're just like wearing shirts and pants from what I remember? Outside of colour co-ordinating to look like a goth band I don't remember anything outlandish.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
I'm gonna go ahead and split the difference here and say yes, their costumes are more realistic/naturalistic than any other Final Fantasy or most videogames in general, but they would also still stand out in a lot of places (their clothes look expensive and feature a disproportionate amount of leather, even aside the colormatching; they all have a "character" - Ignis is sharp and professional, Prompto's punk - but they're super coordinated in a way that's also odd).

Which honestly makes sense. They're aristocrats and elite soldiers slumming it. I just think that palette being shared by the entire major cast - other than Cindy they basically never deviate from black, white, and shades of dull red - is boring.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Ibblebibble posted:

Should've just met in the middle and called her Cidney.

They did in the Japanese version. She's even called it in the credits. It's really bizarre.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Sakurazuka posted:

They're just like wearing shirts and pants from what I remember? Outside of colour co-ordinating to look like a goth band I don't remember anything outlandish.

i guess gladio stands out as wearing a leather short jacket with no shirt underneath

WaltherFeng
May 15, 2013

50 thousand people used to live here. Now, it's the Mushroom Kingdom.
In my head I'm imagining a Yakuza style FFXV with protagonists dressing in sharp tuxedos and the game takes place mostly in urban areas.

I've never played Yakuza but totally would if they did a FF themed spinoff or something.

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich

WaltherFeng posted:

In my head I'm imagining a Yakuza style FFXV with protagonists dressing in sharp tuxedos and the game takes place mostly in urban areas.

I've never played Yakuza but totally would if they did a FF themed spinoff or something.

So a actual spinoff with the Turks?

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

Zell/Tifa/Yang need to punch their way through Kamurocho to defeat Sorceress Ultimecia, who has become 7th Chairman of the Tojo Clan

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

WaltherFeng posted:

In my head I'm imagining a Yakuza style FFXV with protagonists dressing in sharp tuxedos and the game takes place mostly in urban areas.

I've never played Yakuza but totally would if they did a FF themed spinoff or something.

Yakuza has more traditional JRPG in its gameplay than FFXV does. Hell yeah, I'd play a proper 'Yakuza meets FF' game.

The bonus superboss would be GilgaMajima and it would be glorious.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Cleretic posted:

Yakuza has more traditional JRPG in its gameplay than FFXV does. Hell yeah, I'd play a proper 'Yakuza meets FF' game.

The bonus superboss would be GilgaMajima and it would be glorious.

Every Yakuza secret boss is an Amon, the fact you would go to Majima and not Amon fills my soul with shame.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Onmi posted:

Every Yakuza secret boss is an Amon, the fact you would go to Majima and not Amon fills my soul with shame.

Amon's a little harder to find a portmanteau with a famous Final Fantasy heavy-hitter. Amonmega? UltAmoncia? I need to do some thinking to figure this out, but GilgaMajima is something that obviously jumps out and absolutely needs to be a thing in this totally fictional video game.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
Noctis' group all wear black because part of the lore is that their country worships death.

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bentacos
Oct 9, 2012
Final fantasy boss fights need to start with everyone pulling off their jackets and shirts to reveal their sweet full back tattoos.

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