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THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

My prediction is we're never seeing the Iron Islands or Girl Theon ever again

I was trying to figure out how the hell they're supposed to still cover Wintefell and King's Landing when the white walkers are already at the gates. Someone mentioned they think it'll go like:


Ep 3: Winterfell fight. Humans lose, half the cast dies and the rest escape
Ep 4: Here we are, running away. Maybe we run away to the islands.
Ep 5: SOmething happens in King's Landing? Maybe white walkers again??


So there's some room in there

ALSO also - there has been a popular fan theory for years that the main villian progression was gonna go Joffrey, Ramsay, Euron (Which it has in the books, and Euron is way more hosed up than Ramsay even) and they kept doing press before Euron came out that he would be worse than Ramsay and that all ended up being a whole lot of nothing.

In the books, Euron is obsessed with black magic, and claims to have tools to bring down the wall and enslave dragons. There is a pretty popular fan theory that he will have something to do with the white walkers, possibly to the point of joining them or wanting to become their leader

There is nothing suggesting any of this in the show and it would come out of fuckign nowhere if that's where they're going

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

In what sense did they mean “worse” though? Because I certainly do not enjoy him nearly as much as I enjoyed Ramsay.

TeaJay
Oct 9, 2012


Euron in the books is a pretty drat scary and mysterious character and the show has none of it. Book Euron might be the scariest motherfucker in the whole series.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

All the marquee show villains (Joffrey, Ramsay, Euron) have been campy in their own endearing ways, like they’re on a different show than everyone else and that show is the Adam West batman show.

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Better Living Through Birding And Pessimism

TeaJay posted:

Euron in the books is a pretty drat scary and mysterious character and the show has none of it. Book Euron might be the scariest motherfucker in the whole series.

I really hate how they did Euron in this show. I wasn't even a huge fan of the character or Iron Islands stuff in the book but they could have had some fun with the character for the show. He was this maniacal ambitious pirate who had been everywhere. And the showrunners were like "Ok make him a tubby dork".

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

In what sense did they mean “worse” though? Because I certainly do not enjoy him nearly as much as I enjoyed Ramsay.

Euron in the books is ridiculously sadistic.

LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

:siren:
VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!
:siren:
Ramsay was a dogshit character in the show and gave us years of torture porn and 20 good men. I'm 100% okay with them not attempting to go that direction again.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room
I liked the way Ramsay said "nock". Kinda been side-eying a friend of mine since she told me she had a huge crush on him, though.

Dazerbeams
Jul 8, 2009

I enjoy show Euron. He’s just there to have a good time. Crazy and loving life and he killed those Sand Snakes.

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

I really dug that episode. The whole time I had this sense of dread like being pushed slowly towards the edge of a cliff.

jackhunter64
Aug 28, 2008

Keep it up son, take a look at what you could have won


Dazerbeams posted:

I enjoy show Euron. He’s just there to have a good time. Crazy and loving life and he killed those Sand Snakes.

He definitely works better if you just sub in Luther out of The Warriors into all his scenes.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Dazerbeams posted:

I enjoy show Euron. He’s just there to have a good time. Crazy and loving life and he killed those Sand Snakes.

And also to taunt Jaime.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018


GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺

Dazerbeams posted:

I enjoy show Euron. He’s just there to have a good time. Crazy and loving life and he killed those Sand Snakes.

I don’t like show Euron but bless him for this

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room
Do we think Ellaria is still alive? Not that it'd make a difference, I'm just curious.

TeaJay
Oct 9, 2012


I was randomly watching "fights on the Game of Thrones TV series" YT video and I got incredibly depressed on how they didn't include Sword of the Morning Arthur Dayne but instead got medieval Darth Maul to play his part.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018


GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
I forgot she got jammed into qyburns torture science fair, if she’s still alive I don’t want to know about it

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005

Crow Jane posted:

Do we think Ellaria is still alive? Not that it'd make a difference, I'm just curious.

Probably? If you're one of those guards assigned to feed her and change the torches by Cersei you're probably not gonna gently caress that up. I guess she could have killed herself by like, smashing her skull against the wall or something? Like you said though, it doesn't matter. Nobody seemed to care in the show even when the big Daenerys Alliance was a thing, now that it's kinda not she has even less of a look in.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."
Screw Ellaria, I wanna know if the shame nun's still alive. She did nothing wrong.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

CrazyLoon posted:

Screw Ellaria, I wanna know if the shame nun's still alive. She did nothing wrong.

Nah, gently caress Shame Nun and all the Sparrows, I'm glad they're dead.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
So from what I can tell, Game of Thrones is actually about Zaphod42 and GoGoGadgetChris wrestling with each other, calling each other names, because they don't want to just admit that they want to give each other maximum smooches

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



Dazerbeams posted:

I enjoy show Euron. He’s just there to have a good time. Crazy and loving life and he killed those Sand Snakes.

He just comes off as Theon and Yara's wildly inappropriate uncle; talking openly about his sexual exploits, dressing wrong for his age, still going clubbing in his forties, constantly trying to score some molly from anyone he thinks might have some.

That scene where he approached Cersei in her throne room last season, I asked my friend 'Is this guy in his pajamas right now?'

Show Euron is living the goddamn dream.

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




I'm more disappointed we never got Victarion and his cyborg arm. Was hyped for more Greyjoy stuff from the books that we never ended up getting.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



There's still plenty of time for Euron to get a cyborg arm from Qyburn, grandstand like its a real game changer, and then immediately get one-shotted by Yara.

They could knock that out in like, five minutes.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

Hobo Clown posted:

I'm more disappointed we never got Victarion and his cyborg arm. Was hyped for more Greyjoy stuff from the books that we never ended up getting.

I remember liking Asha/Yara more in the books too. Not that I dislike her on the show, the actress is fun, but still.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

LadyPictureShow posted:

He just comes off as Theon and Yara's wildly inappropriate uncle; talking openly about his sexual exploits, dressing wrong for his age, still going clubbing in his forties, constantly trying to score some molly from anyone he thinks might have some.

That scene where he approached Cersei in her throne room last season, I asked my friend 'Is this guy in his pajamas right now?'

Show Euron is living the goddamn dream.

Show Euron is basically Tormund. Weird horny charismatic guy. Dunno where the villain part comes from at this point

Atlas Hugged posted:

It's going to end with some weird time travel shenanigans showing us that all of this has happened before and all of it will happen again. Then Jimi Hendrix will start playing.

More Book Spoilers That Might Spoil The Ending Still:

You never see the Night King in the books, at least up until book 5. Old Nan, bran's nanny who is like basically a prophet at this point, says that his original name is erased from history but she believes it to be Brandon Stark soooo

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Crow Jane posted:

Nah, gently caress Shame Nun and all the Sparrows, I'm glad they're dead.

Yeah, their introduction was basically being the ones to enforce homosexuality as a punishable sin. They deserved what they got.

tino
Jun 4, 2018

by Smythe
I don't know why people get weird about Arya having sex. She is such a different character after she served the Frey pie I don't see her the same character in the show. She is like the robocop version of kid Arya.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



THE AWESOME GHOST posted:

Show Euron is basically Tormund. Weird horny charismatic guy. Dunno where the villain part comes from at this point

I'm all for more weird horny charismatic guys in my tv shows. :heysexy:

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

THE AWESOME GHOST posted:

I was trying to figure out how the hell they're supposed to still cover Wintefell and King's Landing when the white walkers are already at the gates. Someone mentioned they think it'll go like:


Ep 3: Winterfell fight. Humans lose, half the cast dies and the rest escape
Ep 4: Here we are, running away. Maybe we run away to the islands.
Ep 5: SOmething happens in King's Landing? Maybe white walkers again??


Seems along the right lines to me.

My baseless predictions:


Ep 3 - Winterfell fight, humans loses and a bunch of main characters die, survivors escape to iron islands
Ep 4 - Northerners make some last ditch plan to save the day, probably by assassinating the big bad undead mage guy with some magic macguffin. Other random characters turn up to help, red lady etc? Walkers march south, some scenes with people doing pointless poo poo in kings landing and not realising doom is coming. What's his face turns up with the crossbow and decides not to kill Tyrion and Jamie.
Ep 5 - Walkers reach kings landing, big old fight with that army, loads of people die, Cersei probably survives
Ep 6 - Northerners march south to take on the dead army. Big fight, dragons fight each other, blah blah, everyone gets an improbably meaningful battlefield encounter. They kill the bad dude and defeat the undead. Cersei reappears just in time to try to betray them. Jamie probably kills her.


Yayyyy the world is saved

BlackStar
Aug 21, 2004

THE AWESOME GHOST posted:

Show Euron is basically Tormund. Weird horny charismatic guy. Dunno where the villain part comes from at this point


More Book Spoilers That Might Spoil The Ending Still:

You never see the Night King in the books, at least up until book 5. Old Nan, bran's nanny who is like basically a prophet at this point, says that his original name is erased from history but she believes it to be Brandon Stark soooo

Does the rule of Targaryens being the only ones to ride dragons go out the window after the dragon dies?

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
I dont expect the iron islands to be relevant, Yara's suggestion was just to make it clear Theon was welcome back there and she wasnt just hoping to get rid of him. If we go anywhere it's King's Landing, a place viewers know quite well and where everyone would like the show to end for a variety of reasons (how and why? idk. hope it's wacky).

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Theon is so dead :smith:

But what is dead may never die :getin:

neutral milf hotel
Oct 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
What if the night king isn't heading towards kings landing but the citadel

good thing Sam has all those important books with him

Chernabog
Apr 16, 2007



Two theories I have:
-The dragonglass spear has been chekhov's gunned too much for it not to kill someone important and since the only notable characters in the undead army are the NK and the dragon my bet is on Arya killing the NK. It is also possible the dragon glass is a red herring and the spear is used to kill somebody else. If this were the case I think the hound will die in the battle and ask Arya to kill the mountain as his dying wish, in which case the spear is still relevant but not in the way you expected. This has the bonus of closing both their arcs neatly.

-From a narrative standpoint I think Jamie's arc can only end in a confrontation with Cersei where he chooses to become the king(queen)killer again despite knowing the burden he will have to carry because of it.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
I mean the night king is allegedly after the memories of humanity

And that was the citadel's stated reason for existence

So it would fit logically really.

Its Coke
Oct 29, 2018

Alchenar posted:

At the pace they've set themselves the entire 6 episodes have to be set at Winterfell otherwise it's going to be really weird. All the characters are now gathered, they've spent 1/3 of their runtime doing setup for the climax at Winterfell, it's all got to happen at Winterfell. Trying to rush close off everything else in the last two episodes by having the cast teleport around won't work.

Never stopped them before

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Chernabog posted:

Two theories I have:
-The dragonglass spear has been chekhov's gunned too much for it not to kill someone important and since the only notable characters in the undead army are the NK and the dragon my bet is on Arya killing the NK. It is also possible the dragon glass is a red herring and the spear is used to kill somebody else. If this were the case I think the hound will die in the battle and ask Arya to kill the mountain as his dying wish, in which case the spear is still relevant but not in the way you expected. This has the bonus of closing both their arcs neatly.

-From a narrative standpoint I think Jamie's arc can only end in a confrontation with Cersei where he chooses to become the king(queen)killer again despite knowing the burden he will have to carry because of it.
I really do not want to watch a dying hound beg arya to get his personal revenge, even this show would not stoop so low.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."
^ We've already had him begging her while on death's doorstep so yea...I'd be amazed if they go that low.

Zerilan posted:

Yeah, their introduction was basically being the ones to enforce homosexuality as a punishable sin. They deserved what they got.

To be sure, High Sparrow and Lancel and all the other religious idiots can burn for eternity. But I always felt Shame Nun was just doing her job with a lot of gusto and that job happened to be tormenting Cersei so... :shrug:

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

CrazyLoon posted:

^ We've already had him begging her while on death's doorstep so yea...I'd be amazed if they go that low.


To be sure, High Sparrow and Lancel and all the other idiots can burn for eternity. But I always felt Shame Nun was just doing her job with a lot of gusto and that job happened to be tormenting Cersei so... :shrug:

She also tormented Margaery though, and should burn for that alone.

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ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
Shame nun fulfills several fetishes at once, rip shame nun

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