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Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

KICK BAMA KICK posted:

Usually old enough to get their references but had to look up the Connie Chung analogy to Neera's mom in the NYT: it was the time Chung interviewed Newt Gingrich's mom and asked her what he thought of Clinton and she would only answer in a whisper that Newt thought Hillary was a "bitch".
I couldn't think of any analogy to asking Neera Tanden's mom anything. When was the last time somebody cared about a think-tank ghoul enough to call their mother? Imagine calling, like, James Carville's mom.

T-man posted:

Speaking as a star master debater in high school, Peterson is losing hard. He obviously has no idea what his opponent actually believes so his first comments were entirely outside the scope of what Zizek cares about. (cocaine)
I'm kind of impressed with Peterson's ability to build such a following with a "hasn't even read their Wikipedia page" level of knowledge about all the things he fervently opposes. I figured someone who decorates his house with Soviet art would have read the Communist Manifesto. The original, without all the prefaces and footnotes, is about 50 pages.

I don't know if I'm dumb for expecting more from Zizek, or dumb for expecting anything to come out of the exercise. On the one hand, it's hard to fault Zizek for a rambling performance when he's debating a guy who obviously doesn't read; on the other hand, he would probably have done the same thing if he were debating Chomsky or Pinker or any feted public intellectual.

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Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
The reporter was writing a hit piece on Neera and needed to couch the killing blows in a quote. Someone tipped them off that her mom was a real piece of work good for a hot take or two.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Did any Peterson fans have a good meltdown about the debate?

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Halloween Jack posted:

I'm kind of impressed with Peterson's ability to build such a following with a "hasn't even read their Wikipedia page" level of knowledge about all the things he fervently opposes. I figured someone who decorates his house with Soviet art would have read the Communist Manifesto. The original, without all the prefaces and footnotes, is about 50 pages.

I don't know if I'm dumb for expecting more from Zizek, or dumb for expecting anything to come out of the exercise. On the one hand, it's hard to fault Zizek for a rambling performance when he's debating a guy who obviously doesn't read; on the other hand, he would probably have done the same thing if he were debating Chomsky or Pinker or any feted public intellectual.

https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/1120020689912680448

ATP_Power
Jun 12, 2010

This is what fascinates me most in existence: the peculiar necessity of imagining what is, in fact, real.



haha my twitter account which has never tweeted is blocked by her, wonder who I'm following that's got me on her block list.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


ATP_Power posted:

haha my twitter account which has never tweeted is blocked by her, wonder who I'm following that's got me on her block list.

If I'm not mistaken she's the person who shared that ill fated Lyft ride with Adam. She also used to run a twitter account imagining if Hillary had won.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
There was an entire genre of those. If you're gonna be brokebrain at least be original.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Jonas Albrecht posted:

If I'm not mistaken she's the person who shared that ill fated Lyft ride with Adam. She also used to run a twitter account imagining if Hillary had won.

no, that's sarah lehrner or something. one of the hosts of that hellbent podcast

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

https://twitter.com/cushbomb/status/1120380408175181824

what happened to mocking the asinine dragonshow takes

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Monday, April 22nd. 2019. It's been 3 years since Emperor Clinton gained power. All legal rights have been suspended. The corporations helped her. We work 20 hour days, making 2020 stickers. The last person to ask about the "superpredator" unionizers got shot. She already canceled the election, but everyone must have stickers. They're our new currency. It's her time. It's Her time. All glory to the mass, all glory to the hive.

ATP_Power
Jun 12, 2010

This is what fascinates me most in existence: the peculiar necessity of imagining what is, in fact, real.


Am I misremembering or wasn't Sarah Jeong on the bitcoin beat and was posting in the YOSPOS bitcoin thread for a bit until people started getting weird?

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

this is good news! for Israel!

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

ATP_Power posted:

Am I misremembering or wasn't Sarah Jeong on the bitcoin beat and was posting in the YOSPOS bitcoin thread for a bit until people started getting weird?

You are remembering correctly.

Unless I'm misremembering, too. :ohdear:

terrorist ambulance
Nov 5, 2009
I started listening to "Dumb and Awful" because of an image meme in this thread and it hasn't been bad, but this week they went on like a 20 minute tear about Chapo, some of which was fair criticism and some of which was just venting bad opinions about Amber in particular for some reason

Anyways that's the rando update of the week

terrorist ambulance fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Apr 23, 2019

Guildencrantz
May 1, 2012

IM ONE OF THE GOOD ONES

Technically, it was an image of Judas. With a hook nose and side curls for, you know, historical verisimilitude.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

terrorist ambulance posted:

I started listening to "Dumb and Awful" because of an image meme in this thread and it hasn't been bad, but this week they went on like a 20 minute tear about Chapo, some of which was fair criticism and some of which was just venting bad opinions about Amber in particular for some reason

Anyways that's the rando update of the week

They hate Amber because she doesn't apologize and doesn't read the replies. She's a freelancer, so even if they can get individual articles canceled, they can't get her fired over Twitter.

90% of Chapo criticism boils down to being jelly bout the patreon bucks

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


I remember the episode where they read the letter about organizing out in remote rural areas, but I don't remember Amber's response at all.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
It's probably the money, yeah. The other specifics, based on how things have everywhere forever (i.e. I could be totally off):
If they're dirtbag leftists it's probably because they resent New Yorkers / hipsters / rich armchair socialists who don't do things.
If they're intellectual/theoretical leftists it's because Chapo isn't left enough or the wrong kind of left.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Jonas Albrecht posted:

I remember the episode where they read the letter about organizing out in remote rural areas, but I don't remember Amber's response at all.

She had a lazy answer for that, which was basically that organizing opportunities were limited due to the inherent isolation and reactionary attitudes thanks to her own experience of growing up there and fleeing to NYC. Listen to Trillbillies if you want inspiration for radicalizing the sticks.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

ATP_Power posted:

Am I misremembering or wasn't Sarah Jeong on the bitcoin beat and was posting in the YOSPOS bitcoin thread for a bit until people started getting weird?

yeah, and much like kate beaton, yosposters couldn’t resist asking to smell her hair or if she’d go on a date with z0r

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Phone posted:

yeah, and much like kate beaton, yosposters couldn’t resist asking to smell her hair or if she’d go on a date with z0r

Kate is so cool, but we scared her off. :(

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

pangstrom posted:

It's probably the money, yeah. The other specifics, based on how things have everywhere forever (i.e. I could be totally off):
If they're dirtbag leftists it's probably because they resent New Yorkers / hipsters / rich armchair socialists who don't do things.
If they're intellectual/theoretical leftists it's because Chapo isn't left enough or the wrong kind of left.
I mean it's not like they never have bad takes or do dumb things, but there are people who spend more time spinning conspiracy theories about the Chapo-to-alt-Right Pipeline than we spend listening to and talking about the show

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
I imagine it's like

90% jealousy
7% upset at dirtbag part
2% cia psyop
1% leftist critique

Stickfigure
Sep 4, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

thotsky posted:

I imagine it's like

90% jealousy

That's leftism for you

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

Stickfigure posted:

That's leftism for you

centrists/liberals mostly, from what I've seen.

I rarely see leftists criticize Chapo, likely because even if you're pretty tanky, at the very least they're the enemy of your enemy, and not worth the time. Also I think most have learned that there are audiences more receptive to nitpicky arguments about theory; ones where your replies won't just be people telling you to post pictures of your cock or whatever.

There are a few in the bottom 3% though.

thotsky fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Apr 23, 2019

Serf
May 5, 2011


most leftists who hate chapo are libs, and the tankies should be paying better attention now that the likes of virgil is calling for blood in the streets

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/1120753826674425856

Mae
Aug 1, 2010

Supesudandi wa, kukan-nai no dandidesu

They should get peter daou on the show

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Mae posted:

They should get peter daou on the show
Yes but they only get to ask him about Verrit

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica
I thought they stated on the show they wouldn't have him on because of the belief that he is still grifting.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

have peter coffin come on the show with bernie sanders and that nasa shirt guy and use the liberal outrage to power windmills

Chemtrailologist
Jul 8, 2007
Has Matt said anything about losing his latest bet with Virgil?

Matt bet that Trump's approval rating would top 50% a month after the Mueller report came out. Maybe it hasn't been a month yet, but it looks like he'll have to watch The View a bunch of times.

KICK BAMA KICK
Mar 2, 2009

Ego-bot posted:

Has Matt said anything about losing his latest bet with Virgil?

Matt bet that Trump's approval rating would top 50% a month after the Mueller report came out. Maybe it hasn't been a month yet, but it looks like he'll have to watch The View a bunch of times.
I think they settled on checking the approval two months out from them.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

terrorist ambulance posted:

I started listening to "Dumb and Awful" because of an image meme in this thread and it hasn't been bad, but this week they went on like a 20 minute tear about Chapo, some of which was fair criticism and some of which was just venting bad opinions about Amber in particular for some reason

never heard of this podcast and probably won't listen to it beyond this episode, but they said trillbillies and street fight are better, chapo at best is an entry-level socialist entertainment, amber was 100% wrong about abandoning the sticks, and new york sucks poo poo so their opinions are ultimately correct

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
https://mobile.twitter.com/cushbomb/status/1109209721112805378

Original sad brain tweet predicted two months. I don’t remember if the bet they made on air afterwards had the same time frame.

I’ve been thinking about their segment on Bernie’s Fox town hall, and while I agree that Bernie crushed the hell out of it, I think it was okay to be skeptical about his decision to go on. Left tube has been fighting a lot against the idea that we should debate white nationalists and defeat them with facts and logic. And even if Fox isn’t as overtly vile as Breitbart, it has more in common than not. Wanting to avoid legitimizing Fox News is more of a leftist concern than a centrist lib concern I think.

Then again, there’s a difference between having an open forum and getting in a shouting match with Tucker Carlson. And while they were right that CNN is bad and would try to kneecap Bernie too, I think I can be forgiven for assuming that Fox would be the one to assemble the more hostile crowd.

So I guess I’m not sure. What do you guys think?

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Dr Christmas posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/cushbomb/status/1109209721112805378

Original sad brain tweet predicted two months. I don’t remember if the bet they made on air afterwards had the same time frame.

I’ve been thinking about their segment on Bernie’s Fox town hall, and while I agree that Bernie crushed the hell out of it, I think it was okay to be skeptical about his decision to go on. Left tube has been fighting a lot against the idea that we should debate white nationalists and defeat them with facts and logic. And even if Fox isn’t as overtly vile as Breitbart, it has more in common than not. Wanting to avoid legitimizing Fox News is more of a leftist concern than a centrist lib concern I think.

Then again, there’s a difference between having an open forum and getting in a shouting match with Tucker Carlson. And while they were right that CNN is bad and would try to kneecap Bernie too, I think I can be forgiven for assuming that Fox would be the one to assemble the more hostile crowd.

So I guess I’m not sure. What do you guys think?

Cnn is much worse right now for this race. Fox will still heavily go to bat for Trump while cnn is openly hostile to bernie while softballing on everyone else and trying to make that Pete guy happen

KICK BAMA KICK
Mar 2, 2009

What's the "legitimacy" people talk about re: Fox? They have their audience, their advertisers, their infrastructure; none of that changes when a leftist decides not to appear on Fox. Everyone who's capable of knowing what they are does or doesn't at this point, the fig leaf is long gone. There's been some success driving advertisers away from the worst of the worst but I think there's plenty of evidence (and even more explicitly in the case of Sinclair iirc) that management operates it as a propaganda project first and will sacrifice (short-term) profit to keep the bile churning.

There's definitely things you should not do for them (actually work for them, go on Tucker to agree that the SJWs have made college gay, accept the invite if you can't actually hold your own) but if you're capable of clowning them in front of their own audience like Bernie did, I don't know what the material harm is supposed to be.

Uranium
Sep 11, 2001

Through constant decay
Uranium creates
the radioactive ray.



The problem is that Bernie did a thing.

Cosmik Slop
Oct 9, 2007

What's a hole doing in my TARDIS?


prefect posted:

Kate is so cool, but we scared her off. :(

This is going to go down as the Dante and Beatrice segment when whatever patient archangel writes the saga of the SA forums

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adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009
Jeong backed clinton over sanders in 2016 which is why she has half of Twitter blocked and got hired to the new york times editorial board.

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