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SocketWrench posted:Because what Obama did was an emergency stop gap for a rising problem of children crossing the borders by themselves. Trumps is stopping the whole family, tear them apart and hold the children indefinitely in poo poo conditions with abusive staff while shipping the parents back south and telling them to pound sand when it comes to getting the kids back No, it wasn't a stop gap, it was policy. Obama was stopping whole families, and then arguing in court that they should be able to detain the whole family indefinitely. When the courts decided that the Obama administration couldn't indefinitely detain children along with their parents, the Obama administration decided to make essentially sham asylum hearings to speed up deportations, and in the cases where there were more serious issues, like parents with felonies, they did family separation. Of course, felonies that could lead to family separation included having a prior deportation and being found within the US. https://www.vox.com/2014/8/6/5971003/families-together-detention-separate-ice https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article213525764.html As for Honduras, that Clinton supported the coup and did everything in her power to grant it legitimacy and provide diplomatic cover has already been pretty well established.
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Triskelli posted:I want the house to be replaced with a parliamentarian system if only so we can send a 6’5” dude with a big mace to the IRS building to collect those documents. We do already have sergeants-at-arms (one with a mace and one with a gavel), so this could in theory happen. I don't think either of them are as imposing as the British one, though.
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Radish posted:Honestly I think we are past the event horizon where the theocratic fascists have figured out they don't need any sort of majority support as long as they just do whatever they want and are supported by the other people in power with similar views leading to them maintaining power depite being very unpopular. It's just going to be a steady retraction of rights based on the whims of a bunch of primary voters in Texas and Ohio we thought couldn't be taken away politically until something snaps in an incredibly destructive way. I've never been an accelerationist, but at this point we feel so far deep that the only way out is through. But we have a long way yet 
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Easy Diff posted:Charles Audubon personally shot and killed every bird he drew for his library. It's ok there were a poo poo-ton of birds back then
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Easy Diff posted:Charles Audubon personally shot and killed every bird he drew for his library. Even the hummingbirds? Must've been a hell of a sharpshooter.
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:I've never been an accelerationist, but at this point we feel so far deep that the only way out is through. Yeah same. We are having accelerationism thrust on us regardless of if we want it or not since the entire Republican party (including all the Serious types we've been told are reasonable and love maintaining systems) wants to push as hard as they can to full fascism regardless of popular support and the Democratic party is too busy wringing their hands and claiming dogs can't play basketball and begging rich guys to give them money in exchange for continuing to do nothing that will upset them in the slightest.
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STAC Goat posted:That's a hell of a caveat. You can say a lot of things about HW but never let it be said that he wasnt terrifyingly effective at everything except being reelected. If he wanted something covered up then Congress would never have known they should be issuing subpoenas to begin with and if they did get a whiff of something then he could make sure they didn't get the info they wanted quietly
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i am harry posted:God drat guns are so loving stupid and so are all those who use them. Your point is noted, but sometimes you gotta kill fifty herons at once. Those fancy hats won’t make themselves.  E: wow okay, edit is not quote Triskelli fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Apr 23, 2019 |
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I advise everyone to read this: https://www.lrb.co.uk/v41/n02/seymour-m-hersh/the-vice-presidents-men HW was behind Iran Contra being revealed because he didn't like Reagans CIA head. Meanwhile he was running his own covert ops without any legal authority and without Reagan, Congress, the Joint Chiefs, or the head of the CIA knowing. And it only leaked out after he died because only then were people willing to talk about it
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Triskelli posted:I take it you’ve never heard of Punt Guns: God drat guns are so loving stupid and so are all those who use them.
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Easy Diff posted:Charles Audubon personally shot and killed every bird he drew for his library. true but the modern idea of "lets keep animals alive either in nature or in captivity so they can conserved for the world" is extremely modern idea that was birthed out of these dudes. the early conservationists basicaly believed it was better to kill them and preserve them in a museum than let them get ground up by some corporation.
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cr0y posted:Also today is the deadline for the IRS to turn over Trumps tax returns. We heard anything about that lately?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:true but the modern idea of "lets keep animals alive either in nature or in captivity so they can conserved for the world" is extremely modern idea that was birthed out of these dudes. the early conservationists basicaly believed it was better to kill them and preserve them in a museum than let them get ground up by some corporation. Yeah. Without Roosevelt, Audubon, etc., we don't have today's WWF, Sierra Club, so forth.
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Though I think it came out this year the WWF was doing some sick poo poo
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i am harry posted:God drat guns are so loving stupid and so are all those who use them.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Though I think it came out this year the WWF was doing some sick poo poo Yeah, apparently all their wrestlers are classified as private contractors to avoid paying for health insurance and other benefits.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Though I think it came out this year the WWF was doing some sick poo poo "Some" sick poo poo is an understatement
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There Bias Two posted:Yeah, apparently all their wrestlers are classified as private contractors to avoid paying for health insurance and other benefits. And that whole....unpleasantness..... with Chris Benoit.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:gently caress this poo poo and every gay republican as well as women who have had abortions. WHAT THE gently caress
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Yes, surely tariffs are the reason for any of HD's financial woes, not that fact that they market exclusively towards a dying generation while pushing a product designed to kill them faster.
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It's so absurd on its face that wrestlers are 1099. Literally the first two things that are required to be 1099 is "doesn't use employers equipment" and "doesn't have to report to a specific location at a specified time" and wrestlers have to wrestle in WWE's ring on Monday Night from 8-11.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/22/us-un-resolution-rape-weapon-of-war-veto Is this real? I don't even know anymore. I think I've about had enough of this world.
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Chilichimp posted:as well as women who have had abortions. Time to start drinking.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Though I think it came out this year the WWF was doing some sick poo poo like backflips and stuff
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Travic posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/22/us-un-resolution-rape-weapon-of-war-veto Of course it's real. At this point, it's hardly even surprising.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Though I think it came out this year the WWF was doing some sick poo poo
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Are we talking about wildlife or wrestling? I'm so confused.
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Darko posted:Are we talking about wildlife or wrestling? I'm so confused. The original poster mentioned WWF, a person made what I believe is a joke, the rest of the thread decided to be mind-bendingly stupid and now we're talking about wrestling
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One other thing that has been bothering me lately. What is it with certain leftists that are so fixated by foreign policy that they never once bring up domestic stuff? I mean they rant constantly against the Democrats for having blood on their hands like the Republicans, but they are silent about any kind of positive domestic policy changes. I just don't get it.
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Confounding Factor posted:One other thing that has been bothering me lately. What is it with certain leftists that are so fixated by foreign policy that they never once bring up domestic stuff? Who?
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Tayter Swift posted:Yes, surely tariffs are the reason for any of HD's financial woes, not that fact that they market exclusively towards a dying generation while pushing a product designed to kill them faster. its both, harleys are a prestige brand for small dick boomers as well as harley davidson was specifically targeted by EU tariffs as a response to trump's tariffs https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1011360410648416258 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1028626569475051522
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theflyingorc posted:The original poster mentioned WWF, a person made what I believe is a joke, the rest of the thread decided to be mind-bendingly stupid and now we're talking about wrestling I wasn't joking about the wildlife foundation. Since bad stuff came out recently https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...ytZJqNC&cf=1
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It's nobody in particular, just an observation I've made. Wonder if anyone has seen the same thing. I have a buddy on my FB who constantly shares foreign news in between bashing the prior administrations foreign policy. He's a self-described leftist, but hardly says anything about what's going on in America. I'm sure he wouldn't mind if America got nuked or something.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:I wasn't joking about the wildlife foundation. Since bad stuff came out recently I was unclear, the next poster after you was making a joke
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Confounding Factor posted:One other thing that has been bothering me lately. What is it with certain leftists that are so fixated by foreign policy that they never once bring up domestic stuff? you're apparently bothered by a lot of poo poo that results in you just asking questions But im sure theres nothing to that.
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RuanGacho posted:you're apparently bothered by a lot of poo poo that results in you just asking questions Nah this is something I am genuinely curious about.
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Easy Diff posted:It's so absurd on its face that wrestlers are 1099. Literally the first two things that are required to be 1099 is "doesn't use employers equipment" and "doesn't have to report to a specific location at a specified time" and wrestlers have to wrestle in WWE's ring on Monday Night from 8-11. 1099s are an industry wide thing generally in the case of WWE, they're under a general booking contract which gives WWE the right of first refusal for outside bookings and pay them a flat rate for that, and incentivize people to go to shows rather than order them directly by paying a bonus per show for appearing it's really not as clear cut as a lot of people think it is There Bias Two posted:Yeah, apparently all their wrestlers are classified as private contractors to avoid paying for health insurance and other benefits. 50/50 on that, they have insurance for dealing with injuries occurred on the job/in the ring OJ MIST 2 THE DICK fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Apr 23, 2019 |
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luxury handset posted:its both, harleys are a prestige brand for small dick boomers as well as harley davidson was specifically targeted by EU tariffs as a response to trump's tariffs Two avatars of the failures of the Boomer generation fighting it out
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Confounding Factor posted:Nah this is something I am genuinely curious about.
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