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I really really hope that China will leave these resources in the ground. It would be irresponsible and foolish to burn all that coal, oil and gas. Let China lead by example, and unilaterally declare these deposits unavailable for extraction!
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Apr 21, 2019 20:37
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literally the only time i've heard Uigurs mentioned in the USA prior to this Weirdly Simultaneous outrage was from left voices pointing out the funny-sounding ethnic group we were holding in gitmo indefinitely without warrant or charge yet were not allowing to return home.
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Apr 21, 2019 22:00
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Flowers For Algeria posted:I really really hope that China will leave these resources in the ground. It would be irresponsible and foolish to burn all that coal, oil and gas. Let China lead by example, and unilaterally declare these deposits unavailable for extraction! China is one of the leaders in the methanol economy https://www.methanol.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/6.-Kai-Zhao-Methanol-Fuel-Blending-in-China.pdf
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Apr 22, 2019 05:22
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gradenko_2000 posted:Added up - a million prisoners among a population of about 10 million, restrictions on growing beards or abstaining from tobacco and alcohol, systematic live organ harvesting - it starts to sound like the stuff of cheap Cold War movies. The purpose of this unchecked yet widely circulated narrative is to whip up a frenzy of moral outrage that can justify various forms of foreign interference in China's sovereign affairs. It is possible (likely, in fact!) that both are simultaneously true: 1) China is abusing the Uyghur population in Xinjiang, and 2) "The West" is making it "a thing" in order to reinforce the narrative of China as a human rights abuser.
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Apr 22, 2019 16:07
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Amergin posted:It is possible (likely, in fact!) that both are simultaneously true: 1) China is abusing the Uyghur population in Xinjiang, and 2) "The West" is making it "a thing" in order to reinforce the narrative of China as a human rights abuser. no it isnt
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Apr 22, 2019 17:26
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Finicums Wake posted:also, i just read this new left review article about relations between america and china that some of you might find interesting: I attended a recent guest lecture about Chinese business practices in central Africa and why China has been generally good for the continent in a lot of ways. There were several professors attending who were mentally unable phrase their questions without referring to China as imperialists even though the lecturer gave them opportunities to rephrase and even scolded them. They just couldn't wrap their heads around it. It was cringey and I felt embarrassed for them
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Apr 22, 2019 18:43
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Fleetwood posted:I attended a recent guest lecture about Chinese business practices in central Africa and why China has been generally good for the continent in a lot of ways. There were several professors attending who were mentally unable phrase their questions without referring to China as imperialists even though the lecturer gave them opportunities to rephrase and even scolded them. They just couldn't wrap their heads around it. It was cringey and I felt embarrassed for them https://twitter.com/sashasimic/status/1120237601913487361/photo/1
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Apr 22, 2019 18:52
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im cool with going after religious nutjobs but china needs to be fair and go after all religions like theyre treating islam imo
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Apr 22, 2019 19:51
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Top City Homo posted:no it isnt Unpack that a bit, chief.
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Apr 22, 2019 20:50
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Amergin posted:Unpack that a bit, chief. in Seattle we allow people to wallow on the street and feed their drug habit because putting them into structured rehabilitation is considered a violation of their civil rights in rhode island drug addicts are sentenced to drug rehalibitation and its hailed as a success when i lived in the ussr all the liberalization did was bring in a bunch of fascists and nationalist agitators to power. i had to get out of moldova because suddenly a bunch of romanian nationalists decided that russian shouldn't be spoken i consider ethnic separatism a disease that requires structured treatment
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Apr 23, 2019 06:31
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[quote="Top City Homo" post=""494481801"] i consider ethnic separatism a disease that requires structured treatment [/quote] thank you for your input, Mr. Netanyahu
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Apr 23, 2019 12:51
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Top City Homo posted:in Seattle we allow people to wallow on the street and feed their drug habit because putting them into structured rehabilitation is considered a violation of their civil rights Correct, there's nothing wrong with anti-nationalist (re)-education
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Apr 23, 2019 16:07
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:im cool with going after religious nutjobs but china needs to be fair and go after all religions like theyre treating islam imo China is fair in this regard: see Falun Dafa
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Apr 23, 2019 16:08
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Typo posted:China is fair in this regard: see Falun Dafa But Shaolin, Taoist and Buddhist temples are pretty much unscathed.
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Apr 23, 2019 18:08
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:thank you for your input, Mr. Netanyahu Palestinians aren't separatists - it's the Israelis who are foreign invaders of another sovereign state.
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Apr 23, 2019 18:16
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Amergin posted:But Shaolin, Taoist and Buddhist temples are pretty much unscathed. not true lol https://bitterwinter.org/the-war-on-buddhist-statues-continues/ https://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2147929/china-orders-crackdown-large-outdoor-religious-statues
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Apr 23, 2019 18:47
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Typo posted:not true lol Ah yes, destruction of existing mosques, forced re-education of muslims, restrictions on prayer is equivalent to regulating the construction of new statues in an effort to stop the commercialization of Buddhism and Taoism. Yeah okay.
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Apr 23, 2019 19:16
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Amergin posted:Ah yes, destruction of existing mosques, forced re-education of muslims, restrictions on prayer is equivalent to https://bitterwinter.org/lao-tzu-statue-demolished-in-henan/ there's demolishing Taoist statue too it's not a double standard: CCP is dedicated to fight and minimize the damage done by unscientific superstition in all its forms
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Apr 23, 2019 19:17
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Surely the contention lies with harmful beliefs and not with architecture, which constitutes humanity's shared inheritance? China's heavyhanded anti religious policies may be as much as 30% bad.
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Apr 23, 2019 19:56
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But there is a giant Guanyu statue so its okay.
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Apr 23, 2019 20:01
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Typo posted:https://bitterwinter.org/lao-tzu-statue-demolished-in-henan/ Yeah, it was demolished because it was built illegally and not up to code. They did the same thing to a statue of Mao in Henan. Nothing to do with fighting religion. You're going to sit here and say the "CCP is dedicated to fight and minimize the damage done by unscientific superstition in all its forms" when millions go to temples every year for prayers (including family of party members), TCM doctors are featured on CCTV giving unscientific advice, there are 5 officially approved religions, and many folks get time off for Qingming festival to go say prayers and burn paper money?
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Apr 23, 2019 20:25
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Imagine actually reading Typo posts. Tired gimmicks should be abolished.
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Apr 23, 2019 20:29
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gradenko_2000 posted:Palestinians aren't separatists - it's the Israelis who are foreign invaders of another sovereign state. Britain or Jordan?
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Apr 23, 2019 20:48
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Amergin posted:But Shaolin, Taoist and Buddhist temples are pretty much unscathed. i don't think that Taoists done much of anything since the yellow turban rebellion the feudal buddhist theocrat dalai lama is suppressed and no one gives a poo poo about the shaolin  also, christians are just as monitored as islamists
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Apr 23, 2019 21:03
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Lambert posted:Imagine actually reading Typo posts. Tired gimmicks should be abolished. I'd take 20 Typos over the GBS China thread.
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Apr 23, 2019 21:06
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Mantis42 posted:Surely the contention lies with harmful beliefs and not with architecture, which constitutes humanity's shared inheritance? statues suck and religions are dumb
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Apr 23, 2019 21:08
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Top City Homo posted:statues suck historical architecture: good religion: bad putting people into boarding schools with barbed wire: also bad the problem is that the China watchers who are blowing the whistle on mistreatment of Muslims in China would probably tell you American mass incarceration is qualitatively different/not worth worrying about because ~*reasons*~
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Apr 23, 2019 21:16
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Basically all world cultures and the entire span of ideological beliefs build statues. Liberals build statues, Nazis build statues, Communists build statues, etc etc. Statues being good and cool is as close to a universal value as there can be. Basically if you don't like statues there's something wrong with your brain.
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Apr 23, 2019 21:17
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Religion is fine imo as long as it doesn't warp into death cult territory.Lightning Knight posted:historical architecture: good The us has an enormous amount of issues wrt prisons, yes. Both issues should be worked on!
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Apr 23, 2019 21:29
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Grapplejack posted:The us has an enormous amount of issues wrt prisons, yes. Both issues should be worked on! the problem is that the establishment portrays America as the shining beacon of global rights and China as evil James Bond villains when the reality is that we are just the last in a long line of empires.
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Apr 23, 2019 21:35
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True. Honestly I'd love to see a stronger push for prison reform in the US but most dems either don't care, lean right on the issue, or want to privatise prisons in that casual neoliberal way.
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Apr 23, 2019 21:39
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Grapplejack posted:True. Honestly I'd love to see a stronger push for prison reform in the US but most dems either don't care, lean right on the issue, or want to privatise prisons in that casual neoliberal way. And therein lies the problem. you can’t exactly throw stones at China when your house is made by prison labor
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Apr 23, 2019 21:54
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Amergin posted:Yeah, it was demolished because it was built illegally and not up to code. They did the same thing to a statue of Mao in Henan. Nothing to do with fighting religion. exactly so those forms of superstition is under firm supervision of the Communist Party thus the damage done by superstition is minimized. For example, Catholics are free to practice in China ever since Vatican agreed to respect Chinese sovereignty and allow compromise in selecting Bishops. Party supervision ensures superstition cannot be used as ideological basis by CIA and other foreign actors to instigate "Taiping Rebellion 2.0" or separatist "Mujahadeen". Obviously party works on eventually converting everybody into firm believer of state scientific atheism. But for the sake of harmonious society and harmonious world there is freedom of religion under party supervision.
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Apr 23, 2019 22:08
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:Britain or Jordan? I actually think the Israelis lost their claim of their old home after x years. The x year can be set to any common sense length but I will randomly throw a 500 year number there. See if Jews can claim Israel land after 2000 years, so can the Hans claim the Xinjiang region since they were there before the Uyghurs.
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Apr 23, 2019 22:26
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Lightning Knight posted:historical architecture: good So are boarding schools wrong or the barbed wire? I read about the denazification policies in the DDR. They worked very well. They weren’t implemented in the Baltics and the Ukraine and now it’s full of fascists Liberalism is garbage and as far as I’m concerned there is nothing worse than allowing a dangerous separatist movement to grow in your backyard. It’s transparently a western funded agitation to destabilize China
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Apr 23, 2019 22:58
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tino posted:I actually think the Israelis lost their claim of their old home after x years. The x year can be set to any common sense length but I will randomly throw a 500 year number there. I’ll let you in on a little secret Might is the only determining factor in land claims
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Apr 23, 2019 23:02
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itt we unironically engage in realpolitik right wing rhetoric straight from Bibi to own the libs also, something about China
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Apr 23, 2019 23:13
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Top City Homo posted:
Ehhhhh the eastern part of Germany still is the most far right socially and very anti-immigrant afaik. Could chock that up to "economic anxiety"....
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Apr 23, 2019 23:17
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as we all know, native americans lost tgeir claim on american land after being genocided, their activists in the modern era should be dealt with via reeducation
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Apr 23, 2019 23:18
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:as we all know, native americans lost tgeir claim on american land after being genocided, their activists in the modern era should be dealt with via reeducation CCP actually want native Americans from the Uyghurs though. The native Americans for all intended purpose has submitted to white dominance in the land they used to own. That's the main difference between Uyghurs and other Chinese monorities. There is no "Northern American Republican Army" anymore.
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Apr 23, 2019 23:26
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