Industry Terribleness/ComicsGate Thread - Read OP Carefully

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FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

I spent the better part of evening traffic trying to make up AltRight superhero names and the best I could manage was Silver TERFer.

I... i think my brain is problems.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 05:03

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# ? May 24, 2024 15:43

Unlucky7: Jul 11, 2006; Fallen Rib

Dawgstar posted:

Oh, CG thinks they have it covered. This was the "evidence" that the deposition was a lie.

https://twitter.com/AndreaCheeseca1/status/1120852830594588672

Huh, apparently it took him 3 days to send a DM after his initial one :raise:

# ? Apr 24, 2019 05:23

bessantj: Jul 27, 2004

Dawgstar posted:

Oh, CG thinks they have it covered. This was the "evidence" that the deposition was a lie.

https://twitter.com/AndreaCheeseca1/status/1120852830594588672

Weird that they've had this since June and DiC's lawyer hasn't, as far as I know, used it.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 08:54

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

Why do those screenshots look so grainy? Is that from the photoshop filter?

# ? Apr 24, 2019 09:05

Prokhor Zakharov: Dec 31, 2008; This is me as I make another great post

Good luck with your depression!

These people are absolute lunatics, how the gently caress can anyone see that and think "oh yeah Mark's done for now!!"

# ? Apr 24, 2019 10:12

JordanKai: Aug 19, 2011; Get high and think of me.

If those DMs are real, shouldn't they have been gathered from Twitter directly during the discovery phase to prove their veracity?

That's an honest question. I don't really know how the gathering of digital documents for legal cases works.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 11:52

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

FilthyImp posted:

I spent the better part of evening traffic trying to make up AltRight superhero names and the best I could manage was Silver TERFer.

I... i think my brain is problems.

Ubermensch is the obvious one. And in Wild Cards there's a white supremacist with super speed who calls himself the Racist.

How about Gas Lantern? "Behold my power, Gas Lantern's light!"

# ? Apr 24, 2019 12:04

420 Gank Mid: Dec 26, 2008; WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Jedit posted:

And in Wild Cards there's a white supremacist with super speed who calls himself the Racist.

Using any character from Wild Cards is cheating, especially Fortunato.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 12:33

Nuns with Guns: Jul 23, 2010; It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

The Blackface Lawyer has decided he needs to defend sexual abusers across nerd hobbies, by the way:

PST posted:

Apparently Frog God have hired the comicsgate lawyer to go after Webb's victim at PaizoCon for 'Tortuous interference'. Supposedly Stacy, Christopher Helton and Jessica Price are also being sued.

I did my semi-regular peek at what he alt-right gamer side are up to and this is getting discussed in both the comicsgate and gamergate bits of reddit/elsewhere, and of course (the same people) The RPG Site is feverishly masturbating over it and hoping they'll go after rpg.net as well.

From what I understand the ComicsGate suit has all sorts of problems, and tortious interference isn't an easy prove in the US, otherwise every company that's ever had a boycott against it would have gone after someone to shut them up.

The lawyer involved apparently loves appearing on comicsgate youtube interviews and being all smug and has spent the last year+ twisting the whole Meyer vs Waid lawsuit, so hopefully he'll get a dismissal there, as the nerd alt-right seem to regard him as their fantasy lawyer in the same way some people were talking up Avenatti.

Same lawyer is also representing Mignogna going after people who broke relations or talked about his history of sexual harassment so it looks to me as if tortious interference is the tactic. Presumably because it doesn't matter if they did abuse or harass anyone just if that interfered in a contract. Obviously none of the alt right seem to understand that the suits are specifically not saying that they're innocent.

Further to this the comicsgate mob are now claiming this is to do with the SJ Games thing, which is nonsense as this clearly predates it and is probably about Gary Con. As such going after Webb's victim, who's largely stayed quiet about it all seems particularly hosed up, likewise Price who did little beyond retweet and a few comments. But they really, really hate her, to a pretty scary degree. Contessa members did push for a boycott of Gary Con and re-raise Webb's shittyness, but (while not a lawyer in the US) I'm struggling to see how that makes the general bar for that, unless Texas has a very low one for Tortious Interference, which is why they want all their cases held there. And in this case, as far as I can tell, none of the accused, the plaintiff, or the events involved are in Texas, but that doesn't stop it being expensive for those being sued from having to pay lawyers to try and get it dismissed.

Bill Webb is an old fixture of D&D circles and was called out as a sex creep with a long history a few months ago. Jessica Price had a twitter thread in December about her experience with him:

https://twitter.com/Delafina777/status/1075848097064873984

It's long so it'd be better to click through to read it

# ? Apr 24, 2019 13:01

Lurdiak: Feb 26, 2006; I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.

This is like the 17th attempt to start a DnD-gate in the past year.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 13:31

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

bessantj posted:

Weird that they've had this since June and DiC's lawyer hasn't, as far as I know, used it.

On the one hand, you're probably making a big assumption that Dickie's lawyer(s) are actually good at their jobs. On the other, it's certainly fake.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 13:43

Dawgstar: Jul 15, 2017

As a correction, Blackface Lawyer isn't Vic's lawyer. That's Ty Beard who started a trend amongst the Vic supporters because he tweeted "We'll be in touch" to Monica Rial and others. Ty Beard, despite having tried actual court cases unlike Nick, is on record as giving opposing counsel false documents and screwing the case up so bad he had to pay the OTHER SIDE's legal fees.

Re: Ty Beard, Jim E. Bullock, Brian Casper, Craig Daugherty and Don Harris, 12-15-00005-CV (Tex. App. 2015) if you want to see Beard be on the hook for 14K.

Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Apr 24, 2019

# ? Apr 24, 2019 14:01

Nuns with Guns: Jul 23, 2010; It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Dawgstar posted:

As a correction, Blackface Lawyer isn't Vic's lawyer. That's Ty Beard who started a trend amongst the Vic supporters because he tweeted "We'll be in touch" to Monica Rial and others. Ty Beard, despite having tried actual court cases unlike Nick, is on record as giving opposing counsel false documents and screwing the case up so bad he had to pay the OTHER SIDE's legal fees.

Re: Ty Beard, Jim E. Bullock, Brian Casper, Craig Daugherty and Don Harris, 12-15-00005-CV (Tex. App. 2015) if you want to see Beard be on the hook for 14K.

Oh, my bad. There's getting to be a ridiculous number of alt-right nuisance lawsuits going on at once...

# ? Apr 24, 2019 14:23

Flytrap: Apr 30, 2013

Dawgstar posted:

As a correction, Blackface Lawyer isn't Vic's lawyer. That's Ty Beard who started a trend amongst the Vic supporters because he tweeted "We'll be in touch" to Monica Rial and others. Ty Beard, despite having tried actual court cases unlike Nick, is on record as giving opposing counsel false documents and screwing the case up so bad he had to pay the OTHER SIDE's legal fees.

Re: Ty Beard, Jim E. Bullock, Brian Casper, Craig Daugherty and Don Harris, 12-15-00005-CV (Tex. App. 2015) if you want to see Beard be on the hook for 14K.

Oh my God, really? For some reason I was giving them the benefit of the doubt and thinking they were trying to scare people into NDA's and poo poo by threatening them with costly lawsuits and bullying them to settle out of court.

For some reason it never occurred to me that they might actually just be pants shittingly stupid

# ? Apr 24, 2019 14:52

Dawgstar: Jul 15, 2017

Nuns with Guns posted:

Oh, my bad. There's getting to be a ridiculous number of alt-right nuisance lawsuits going on at once...

Yeah, they all blur together after a while.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 14:52

bessantj: Jul 27, 2004

Endless Mike posted:

On the one hand, you're probably making a big assumption that Dickie's lawyer(s) are actually good at their jobs. On the other, it's certainly fake.

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on being competent. Yes, I have a feeling you're correct.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 15:43

Anora: Feb 16, 2014; I fuckin suck!🪠

Lurdiak posted:

This is like the 17th attempt to start a DnD-gate in the past year.

What -gates are we up to at this point, and what started them?

Gamer was Anita Sarkessian going "maybe we could tone down the sexual exploitation of Women in games," and chuds freaking out.
Anime was Vic being a sex pervert and chuds being like "nuh-uh" (which I'm going to love seeing him proven in court to be a sex pervert)
Comic was what, EVS and DiC starting indiegogos?

# ? Apr 24, 2019 15:52

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

GateGate is coming.

The fencing industry will be toppled to the ground.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 15:53

Dawgstar: Jul 15, 2017

Anora posted:

Comic was what, EVS and DiC starting indiegogos?

Earlier. Kicked off when the women at Marvel's editorial staff went for a milkshake.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 16:17

site: Apr 6, 2007; Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Rhyno posted:

GateGate is coming.

The fencing industry will be toppled to the ground.

how dare you wall off your property from me so i cant put a burning cross on your lawn

infringing on my free speech

# ? Apr 24, 2019 16:18

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

I keep hoping we'll see a schism in ComicsGate which creates ComicsGateGate.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 16:22

site: Apr 6, 2007; Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

There was that time vox day got "kicked out" by evs over something

# ? Apr 24, 2019 16:30

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

site posted:

There was that time vox day got "kicked out" by evs over something

Yeah but nobody really took sides. I figure eventually the faction that hates women and the faction that hates racial diversity will come to blows.

Like that Superman worship cult split from Reign of the Supermen.

Edit: holy poo poo I love your new avatar

# ? Apr 24, 2019 16:32

Puppy Time: Mar 1, 2005

Rhyno posted:

Yeah but nobody really took sides. I figure eventually the faction that hates women and the faction that hates racial diversity will come to blows.

You figure they're not the same faction?

# ? Apr 24, 2019 16:53

site: Apr 6, 2007; Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Rhyno posted:

Yeah but nobody really took sides. I figure eventually the faction that hates women and the faction that hates racial diversity will come to blows.

Like that Superman worship cult split from Reign of the Supermen.

Edit: holy poo poo I love your new avatar

The Venn diagram of those two groups is a circle

And lol ty

# ? Apr 24, 2019 16:53

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

Puppy Time posted:

You figure they're not the same faction?

Well 20+ years of retail and the service industry taught me that racists hate other races but they tend to hate women even more. Like, there's INCELs that are not white you know?

# ? Apr 24, 2019 16:54

Space Fish: Oct 14, 2008; The original Big Tuna.

Dawgstar posted:

Earlier. Kicked off when the women at Marvel's editorial staff went for a milkshake.

Milkshakes in memory of Flo Steinberg, no less.
"Oh no, our beloved Marvel franchises are being influenced by women!" Meanwhile, women have contributed to comics at large since the beginning...?

# ? Apr 24, 2019 17:06

Edge & Christian: May 20, 2001; Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters

Does anyone remember when EVS quit Comicsgate? Was there an explanation of why he came back?

# ? Apr 24, 2019 17:20

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

I think it's harder to keep your crowd funding going when you walk away from your audience.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 17:24

ravenkult: Feb 3, 2011

There's kind of a ''Sci-fi Gate'' going on too, with the Sad Puppies fixing Hugo Award ballots and brigading and poo poo.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 17:53

fritz: Jul 26, 2003

Rhyno posted:

Yeah but nobody really took sides. I figure eventually the faction that hates women and the faction that hates racial diversity will come to blows.

Just earlier this week I saw some vanSciverists getting mad at Beale for that particular drama.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 17:58

Dawgstar: Jul 15, 2017

Edge & Christian posted:

Does anyone remember when EVS quit Comicsgate? Was there an explanation of why he came back?

Just some BS Tweet about still having "work to do" or whatever.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 18:15

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

More loving geniuses

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1121094416859582465?s=19

# ? Apr 24, 2019 18:32

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Rhyno posted:

Well 20+ years of retail and the service industry taught me that racists hate other races but they tend to hate women even more. Like, there's INCELs that are not white you know?

Nah, non-white incels also believe white people are superior and that's just another reason they can't get laid.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 18:48

IUG: Jul 14, 2007

Skwirl posted:

More loving geniuses

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1121094416859582465?s=19

I have no idea how to decipher that guy's rant they quoted. They think the ink will run off the page onto the reader's hands?

# ? Apr 24, 2019 18:54

Dawgstar: Jul 15, 2017

IUG posted:

I have no idea how to decipher that guy's rant they quoted. They think the ink will run off the page onto the reader's hands?

Sometimes I have to imagine this is performance art or something.

# ? Apr 24, 2019 19:10

Oasx: Oct 11, 2006; Freshly Squeezed

Anora posted:

What -gates are we up to at this point, and what started them?

Gamer was Anita Sarkessian going "maybe we could tone down the sexual exploitation of Women in games," and chuds freaking out.
Anime was Vic being a sex pervert and chuds being like "nuh-uh" (which I'm going to love seeing him proven in court to be a sex pervert)
Comic was what, EVS and DiC starting indiegogos?

The Hugo awards for science fiction books had Sad puppies/Rabid puppies. It isn't exactly a "gate", but the reasons behind it are the same, namely people being bitter that non-white/non-males start producing new kinds of stories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sad_Puppies

# ? Apr 24, 2019 20:04