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Spacebump posted:Just CG some Star Trek branding over old Space Cases episodes and it's not too off. lol oh yeah that show basically was Star Trek Jr. wasn't it
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Spacebump posted:Just CG some Star Trek branding over old Space Cases episodes and it's not too off. Hey, if Peter David gets another paycheck out of it, maybe he can finally pay his back taxes.
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jng2058 posted:That's the trouble, isn't it? For awhile there, Star Trek was something else. A vision of the future, a utopian dream, something that inspired us and made us want to aspire to. Now, it's just a brand. And not even a very good one anymore. Hello sir/ma'am would you like an IDIC medallion?
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J33uk posted:Hello sir/ma'am would you like an IDIC medallion? The funny thing about that story was that Gene just wanted to hock some poo poo and it was the actors that were like gently caress's sake gene can we not Like yeah this poo poo has always been To Sell Toys (well not in as much but you get the idea) to some extent but now it's real noticeable I guess lmao
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Apr 24, 2019 21:12
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Orv posted:Just watched S2 E1, I still think a lot of it is off-point for a Star Trek show but realistically you can't make TNG/DS9 nowadays Your username is the first 3 letters of a show that proves otherwise.
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Orv posted:Just watched S2 E1, I still think a lot of it is off-point for a Star Trek show but realistically you can't make TNG/DS9 nowadays That is literally what they're doing with The Orville though Edit: beaten and thrown across the bridge like Worf
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Apr 24, 2019 22:02
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all the women star trek fannes i know love discovery and all hate the orville so the orville is actually a super handy dumping ground for fake trek fans (i.e. men)
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Apr 24, 2019 22:07
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Pick posted:all the women star trek fannes i know love discovery and all hate the orville so the orville is actually a super handy dumping ground for fake trek fans (i.e. men) I will say one of the things Disco gets right is having a fuckton of women being front and center and kicking rear end.
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Pick posted:all the women star trek fannes i know love discovery and all hate the orville so the orville is actually a super handy dumping ground for fake trek fans (i.e. men) My wife loves both 
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Apr 24, 2019 22:13
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I will not watch Orville so long as Seth McFarlane exists in the space-time continuum.
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Apr 24, 2019 22:38
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I think what the Orville is doing is great and good but I don’t see a resemblance to TNG besides color tone. People must be deaf to emotional tone. My dad is in his late 60’s and he loves Orville but it’s a comedy/adventure show for him.
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Apr 24, 2019 22:44
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Orville is literally TNG scripts with fart jokes added.
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Apr 24, 2019 22:47
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Burning_Monk posted:Orville is literally TNG scripts with fart jokes added. That’s not true. Sometimes there are weed jokes too.
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Apr 24, 2019 22:48
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My wife walked away from Discovery within the first 30 min of the pilot saying it was some of the worst written dialog she's ever heard and all the characters were annoying terrible people. I told her some Season 2 episodes were ok and we tried to watch one but she still just hated everything about the show and couldn't make it through and kept saying "This isn't star trek, they're trying to be dark and depressing like the Expanse but they can't write dialog or create good characters. Why didn't they just make their own action drama and not call it Trek?" She's managed to slightly get into the Orville if it's a good episode but has a pretty low tolerance for Seth's character or his lovely love life and pathetic interactions with this ex. If it's a Doctor / Isaac / Bortus&Klyden focused episode she's down though. Mostly she'd rather just watch DS9 or The Expanse again.
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Apr 24, 2019 22:50
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Kibayasu posted:That’s not true. 
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Bortus carries like 50% of Orville on his own, easily.   
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Apr 24, 2019 22:55
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HD DAD posted:I will say one of the things Disco gets right is having a fuckton of women being front and center and kicking rear end. Yum yum.
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Apr 24, 2019 23:00
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Baronjutter posted:Bortus carries like 50% of Orville on his own, easily. dur hur that's a dumb fart joke and not exactly the kind of silly poo poo Worf would say/do pretty often
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Apr 24, 2019 23:08
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feedmegin posted:My wife loves both lol same
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Apr 24, 2019 23:09
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Bedshaped posted:I will not watch Orville so long as Seth McFarlane exists in the space-time continuum.
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Apr 24, 2019 23:35
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Bedshaped posted:I will not watch Orville so long as Seth McFarlane exists in the space-time continuum. 
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Apr 24, 2019 23:41
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Baronjutter posted:My wife walked away from Discovery within the first 30 min of the pilot saying it was some of the worst written dialog she's ever heard and all the characters were annoying terrible people. I told her some Season 2 episodes were ok and we tried to watch one but she still just hated everything about the show and couldn't make it through and kept saying "This isn't star trek, they're trying to be dark and depressing like the Expanse but they can't write dialog or create good characters. Why didn't they just make their own action drama and not call it Trek?" I would seriously start a Disco newcomer off with Season 2. I think the season opener is accessible enough; they even re-introduce the spore drive via Pike.
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Apr 24, 2019 23:42
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lord do we really need to do a referendum on Seth MacFarlane here
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Kibayasu posted:That’s not true. Series 2 of Orville is a whole new show and you're absolutely missing out on new Star Trek by not watching it. And I really don't like Seth, but I still look foward to the Orville every week. To carry on something said earlier I also find it really hard to watch the Star Wars cartoons because the animation feels so lovely to me. Even Resistance - which I was hoping might look a bit more old fashioned - is horrible CGI characters with bad faces. I've nothing against CGI, they've just done it in a way I don't like.
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Taear posted:Series 2 of Orville is a whole new show and you're absolutely missing out on new Star Trek by not watching it. And I really don't like Seth, but I still look foward to the Orville every week. Clone wars in the last few seasons is movie-tier animation though.
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Thom12255 posted:Clone wars in the last few seasons is movie-tier animation though. The 2003 one is amazing. The 2008 one is the start of the lovely animation I mean.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:lord do we really need to do a referendum on Seth MacFarlane here I feel like we have to endure one every two months or so, lest the thread lose antimatter containment. But, yes, the endless re-litigating of The Orville and Seth MacFarlane in both this and the Discovery thread gives me the mother of all headaches every time it comes up.
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If you are not watching The Orville because of Seth MacFarlane you are making an enormous mistake. Season 2 is down right amazing. Seth has really put his entire soul into the show and it shows. The “fart jokes in space” trope is so far from what it actually is now.
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It's not at all about McFarlane and all about essentially preaching pseudo-enlightened California douche male values without the kind of legitimate insight that Star Trek is made of
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Pick posted:It's not at all about McFarlane Bedshaped posted:I will not watch Orville so long as Seth McFarlane exists in the space-time continuum. And that post was empty-quoted twice more. Maybe re-think this, Pick.
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Pick posted:It's not at all about McFarlane and all about essentially preaching pseudo-enlightened California douche male values without the kind of legitimate insight that Star Trek is made of The half-dozen people who specifically mentioned it was all about hating McFarlane would disagree but go off I guess
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Your username is the first 3 letters of a show that proves otherwise. I am... exceedingly wary of anything out of Seth McFarlane (or however I will inevitably fail to spell his last name) and while I've seen plenty of people say "It's a Star Trek show not a Seth McFarlane show" I'm always wary of that as well because I'm cynical, jaded and a humorless bore. And more-over that line of reasoning is almost always a lie in relation to recommendations about any creative output, people basically make one thing if they're good at it. I'm willing to give it a shot but I'm not really expecting it to be my thing. Orv fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Apr 25, 2019 |
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There's been 3 or so bad episodes so far in the orville and unfortunately one of them is the pilot
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Orv posted:I'm willing to give it a shot but I'm not really expecting it to be my thing. I don't think anyone could ask for more! I can't stand a single thing he did before this, including American Dad which people seem to actually love, but drat do I love Orville
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Tunicate posted:Star wars rebels is the one where the protagonist kid has a goofy electric slingshot and also bombs parades right? Both of those things are pretty much gone by the end of the first season. Rebels ended up being an extremely good show with some of the best Force mythology since Empire Strikes Back. That first season is just slow as hell.
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cheetah7071 posted:There's been 3 or so bad episodes so far in the orville and unfortunately one of them is the pilot To be fair I would say that "the first 1-2 seasons are really bad compared to when the show finds its footing" is almost standard for Trek shows
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