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Monkey Fracas posted:that like PT Barnum quote about never underestimating the taste of the American public HL Mencken. Barnum's quote was regarding suckers. Either fit this context.
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Goober Peas posted:Every Altima I've seen recently has been a rental. yeah they're everywhere on rental lots Not a bad car, actually, other than the fact that I hate CVTs, but it's in a dying segment and it's not better than the Mazda6, Accord, and Camry
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Apr 25, 2019 12:11
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:yeah they're everywhere on rental lots Yeah, but the bi-weekly payments are $20 cheaper!
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Apr 25, 2019 12:18
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Powershift posted:Get this, everything they build suuuuuuuuuuuucks. Isn't this the same thing Mitsubishi did in the early 2000's?
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Apr 25, 2019 12:27
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BloodBag posted:Isn't this the same thing Mitsubishi did in the early 2000's? That's funny, I subliminally thought we were talking about Mitsubishi this whole time. There is a certain similarity isn't there?
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Apr 25, 2019 13:37
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Kicks seems decent. It's probably one of four sub-compact SUVs worth looking at. Leaf is a good car for what it is. Other then that, Nissan doesn't have any really competitive products.
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Apr 25, 2019 13:43
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I see Rogues everywhere. My boss asked me what car he should get for his daughter about about 18 months ago. I recommended something I know about, a 2010 Impreza hatch, he found her a 2012 Rogue instead. The CVT has poo poo the bed and stranded her twice. He reasons that this is not unexpected for a car with 100k on it. She is like 17 or 18 now and hates driving, I’m pretty sure this car is the reason. I took a trip to a client’s site with a coworker, he drove his Rogue, he proudly proclaimed he had just paid it off. The nav system is useless and the screen is the size of a cigarette pack. It has no room in the back. The interior is made from dimpled Rubbermaid plastic. When we left, he matted it with coolant still ice cold, the engine lazily climbed to 5k and emitted a metallic clatter. The CVT kept it rattling for a good 10 or 15 seconds until we were at highway speed.
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Apr 25, 2019 16:19
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:yeah they're everywhere on rental lots I personally hate the steering, throttle response, and braking. All 3 are way too sensitive initially. Styling is take/leave, actually like their seats.
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Apr 25, 2019 17:15
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i own every Bionicle posted:I see Rogues everywhere. My boss asked me what car he should get for his daughter about about 18 months ago. I recommended something I know about, a 2010 Impreza hatch, he found her a 2012 Rogue instead. The CVT has poo poo the bed and stranded her twice. He reasons that this is not unexpected for a car with 100k on it. She is like 17 or 18 now and hates driving, I’m pretty sure this car is the reason.
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Apr 25, 2019 17:52
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Rogues are the worst rentals I get they are horrible. muranos are a lot better tho.
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Apr 25, 2019 17:56
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david_a posted:I had the misfortune of having a Rogue rental for an annoying long drive and we had to pull over after 20 minutes to check that the hood was properly secured. Yes, it was, it’s just that the thing was so floppy and bouncy at interstate speeds that I thought it was going to rip loose and blind us at 70mph. To be fair my Lincoln’s hood flaps at high speeds + gusty winds too ($65k sticker price lmafo)
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Just chiming in that I had less of an issue with Nissan's CVT than with whatever rubberband poo poo Toyota uses for the Corolla. Powershift might fight me on that.  All CVTs are still poo poo, though.
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Apr 25, 2019 18:01
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i own every Bionicle posted:I see Rogues everywhere. My boss asked me what car he should get for his daughter about about 18 months ago. I recommended something I know about, a 2010 Impreza hatch, he found her a 2012 Rogue instead. The CVT has poo poo the bed and stranded her twice. He reasons that this is not unexpected for a car with 100k on it. She is like 17 or 18 now and hates driving, I’m pretty sure this car is the reason. I had the misfortune of a backseat Rogue mountain trip w some friends of ours and it was a goddamned painful, thankless slog. It was a 5hr trip with a couple stops and I still wanted to die. I’m 6’3 230ish and I was more comfortable in the rear of a crew cab Tacoma. God what a lovely car.
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Balliver Shagnasty posted:
CVT's as a whole belong behind turbines and in front of superchargers. Turbines because they hate changing speed and superchargers because you have infinitely variable pulley sizing. They do not belong anywhere else. EVER.
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Apr 25, 2019 18:05
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every time i see a rogue on the road i'm left wondering about the heat exchanger thing i see... edit: theres a jalop article about it, now that i think to google it https://jalopnik.com/the-definitive-answer-to-what-that-heat-exchanger-looki-1826964480
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Apr 25, 2019 18:06
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McTinkerson posted:CVT's as a whole belong behind turbines and in front of superchargers. Turbines because they hate changing speed and superchargers because you have infinitely variable pulley sizing. Snowmobiles my dude.
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Apr 25, 2019 18:27
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The fact that Nissan hasn't updated the Frontier in a decade still boggles my mind.
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Apr 25, 2019 18:36
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I actually like that the Nissan CVT acts like a CVT. It keeps the engine at a single RPM and the car goes faster like its ancestors the snowmobile and golf cart did. Subaru’s waggling the tach around and pretending to shift gears like a COPS sound effect is dumb.
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FCKGW posted:The fact that Nissan hasn't updated the Frontier in a decade still boggles my mind. I have one as a rental right now. It's fine. It's very honest and simple. It has a bluetooth head unit and some USB poo poo. I kind of like it better than the recent Rangers I have had.
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FCKGW posted:The fact that Nissan hasn't updated the Frontier in a decade still boggles my mind. Even longer right? Like 15? But it’s a simple and reliable truck and still comes in manual I believe. Not the worst purchase. I’d be into it if I needed a mid sized truck. The Frontier is like the best thing Nissan is doing now.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I have one as a rental right now. It's fine. It's very honest and simple. It has a bluetooth head unit and some USB poo poo. I kind of like it better than the recent Rangers I have had. You being serious? I thought that the Ranger drove best out of the whole segment and the 2.3T is a good truck motor?
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I drove a Ranger XLT a few weekends ago. It stickered for $35k, had what I would consider the minimums - Sync, bedliner, keyless entry, cruise. The 2.3 was fine, transmission was fine, interior was ok - nicer than the Tacoma, flashier than the Colorado but still just ok, handled ok, ride was not as well controlled as the Colorado but not as hard as the Tacoma. It just didn't feel like a good buy at $35k. When you could get a similarly equipped F150 XL with the same options, more room, the same gas mileage and a similar price with cash on the hood. I feel the same way about the Colorado and Tacoma as well.
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i own every Bionicle posted:I actually like that the Nissan CVT acts like a CVT. It keeps the engine at a single RPM and the car goes faster like its ancestors the snowmobile and golf cart did. Subaru’s waggling the tach around and pretending to shift gears like a COPS sound effect is dumb. Except cars arent snowmobiles and need a far wider rpm range to handle real world activities outside of one specific full throttle senario. As much as CVTs suck Subaru has it right and Nissans CVT programing is loving stupid.
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BraveUlysses posted:every time i see a rogue on the road i'm left wondering about the heat exchanger thing i see... Haha thanks, I never remember to look that up.
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Charles posted:Haha thanks, I never remember to look that up. Ditto, I always notice that thing and always forget to google it.
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Twerk from Home posted:You being serious? I thought that the Ranger drove best out of the whole segment and the 2.3T is a good truck motor? The ranger is extremely fancy. It drives well, I didn't like the ten speed transmission all that much. It's too nice. The Frontier has a poo poo interior, great visibility, and a lovely but predictable automatic transmission. The Frontier reminds me of my old Ranger. The new Ranger reminds me of a Ford Taurus for people with ego problems.
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I think the CVT in my '18 Civic (My daily driver, not the super funmobile) is actually pretty good. If they sold the SI here then I'd definitely have that though. What threw me off when I got it was that it acts like a CVT when you are in Drive mode but if you put it in Sport and use the paddle shifters on the steering wheel then it locks itself into 7 pre-set gear ratios instead of constantly changing. For being a general commuter car it's fun though possibly defeating the point of being a CVT (or maybe best of both worlds, I dunno, i'm not a car engineer) Solus fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Apr 26, 2019 |
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Balliver Shagnasty posted:Just chiming in that I had less of an issue with Nissan's CVT than with whatever rubberband poo poo Toyota uses for the Corolla. Powershift might fight me on that. I'll fight anybody on anything. Except that, toyota sucks too. I was quite impressed by the 8 speed in a rental grand cherokee, and the 6 speed dct in the NIro. It's not even a matter of feeling the shifts, it's just a matter of feeling like you're controlling the RPM with the pedal. It's more a sense of control than anything for me. The 8 speed in the colorado is fine in auto mode and makes the truck pretty loving quick, but manual mode is dumb because it only takes your shifts as a suggestion, and only shows the gear you've selected and not the gear it's in. I wouldn't want to tow much through the mountains with it. It feels like they kept the CTS transmission programming.
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FCKGW posted:The fact that Nissan hasn't updated the Frontier in a decade still boggles my mind. They are definitely dragging their heels on updates. I'm pretty sure they brought the Qashqai and Kicks over from the EU virtually unchanged, and the Leaf is the only thing in recent memory that's gotten a refresh. Oh wait, I think maybe the Altima is new. Maybe they're hoping acquiring Mitsubishi and stabbing Ghosn in the back will fix the rest of it. Ghosn's out of Japanese prison for the second time again as of this morning so I look forward to poo poo hitting the fan. edit: I should not have spoken badly of Nissan, apparently they did a huge announcement of the 2020 Versa that everyone completely missed. It now has a flat-bottom steering wheel like a RACE CAR Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Apr 26, 2019 |
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Seat Safety Switch posted:
Ooh, according to the link there it also uses harmonious materials. What wouldn't be harmonious, magnesium and water?
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Apr 26, 2019 12:12
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The interior plastics and heat shields have been carefully designed so that, when broken and rattling, they form a perfect chord.
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Apr 26, 2019 12:18
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Being a PR writer for a loving Versa would make me examine where my life went wrong
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 The back seat leg room in sedans is getting too drat small! SL test mule
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Looking into why Ghosn got arrested; of course it's for skimming money off the top for jets, yachts, overblown retirements, and his son's ***~~~startup~~~***.
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It's still kind of mindblowing that he was skimming so much when he was just straight up being paid honestly like eighteen million us dollars, dogg u can afford to pay for your own poo poo
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:It's still kind of mindblowing that he was skimming so much when he was just straight up being paid honestly like eighteen million us dollars, dogg u can afford to pay for your own poo poo Because he could have more. What they have or are getting is never enough for rich people. The Nastier Nate posted:https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/440417-feds-investigating-illinois-governor-first-lady-over-property-tax-break quote:The investigation reportedly stems from Pritzker and his wife M.K. Pritzker’s pursuit of a property tax break for a mansion they purchased next to their home on Chicago’s Gold Coast.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:It's still kind of mindblowing that he was skimming so much when he was just straight up being paid honestly like eighteen million us dollars, dogg u can afford to pay for your own poo poo I feel like if I were skimming that much money I would just start giving it to people on the street. You look like you have a good idea for a TV show, how's $500,000 sound? I'll give you $45k if you piss on your boss right now. You can go home and finish that novel. They'd never find a jury to convict me.
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fknlo posted:Because he could have more. What they have or are getting is never enough for rich people. This is next level tax avoidance and I have to respect the thought process behind it, even if it’s totally a shitbag move
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Powershift posted:
This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.
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Solus posted:I think the CVT in my '18 Civic (My daily driver, not the super funmobile) is actually pretty good. If they sold the SI here then I'd definitely have that though. Completely agreed. I think Honda's 4-cylinder CVTs are fantastic, honestly. With extremely similar power/weight, a K24/CVT Accord is much faster than my K24/5-speed auto CR-V on any sort of acceleration test that isn't just a pull from a dead stop. Five speeds, especially as widely spaced as they are on a Hondamatic, still has plenty of holes where it can't kick down far enough to get the engine in its sweet spot. The CVT "shifts" faster than the Hondamatic does, and it always has a ratio where the engine can actually get some work done.
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