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This game is really good and I enjoy the hell out of it, except for when I actually play it. When I actually sit down to play I get bored within minutes and frustrated with myself because I can see fun right there on the screen, I just can't reach it.
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s.i.r.e. posted:To be fair, that was the only point of the game on release. Personally I was more interested in alien linguistics.
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Apr 24, 2019 17:08
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chaosapiant posted:This game is really good and I enjoy the hell out of it, except for when I actually play it. When I actually sit down to play I get bored within minutes and frustrated with myself because I can see fun right there on the screen, I just can't reach it. It's a slow build up to where it isn't as much of a grind, which is why I prefer free build mode. VR should add a lot to the experience and interaction within the game. At least I hope it does.
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Apr 24, 2019 17:18
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This is a good game to play on a Saturday morning you woke up super early because it started raining hard outside
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Apr 24, 2019 17:20
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I started customising a cool base on my freighter with a big ready room type space leading to the command rooms for fleet expeditions and it's just a colossal pain. I have tons of raw materials and getting more is trivial, but shifting silver and tritium around inventories is just so needless and fiddly that I'm just about ready to give up and do it on creative instead. Oh yeah after I sent my fleet out on some missions I had 350 tonnes of fuel left which takes up three separate freighter slots because it's 1x200, 1x100 and 1x50, but 1000 tonnes only takes up a single slot because it's 5x200. I can't even resolve it by making more fuel because you can't combine two 50 tonne fuel into a 100 tonne fuel or two 100 tonnes into a 200 tonne what the gently caress No Man's Sky? WHAT THE gently caress???
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Apr 24, 2019 17:21
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Party Boat posted:I started customising a cool base on my freighter with a big ready room type space leading to the command rooms for fleet expeditions and it's just a colossal pain. I have tons of raw materials and getting more is trivial, but shifting silver and tritium around inventories is just so needless and fiddly that I'm just about ready to give up and do it on creative instead. It's very important to severely impede player progress in a single player/client side based game that is a one time purchase because
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Apr 24, 2019 17:39
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For those interested, there is some new 65dos music. New album coming this fall and also new music monthly if you subscribe on bandcamp from various projects they've been doing over the last couple of years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68NvvJClDKI
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Apr 24, 2019 22:08
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Jesus that music sucks
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Apr 25, 2019 00:42
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The best mod I ever installed was the instant mining mod. Good god it adds so much QOL not spending hours holding down M1 on rocks.
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Apr 25, 2019 13:40
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Resource farming to create things outside of Creative mode is the least fun.
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Apr 25, 2019 16:51
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The_Doctor posted:Resource farming to create things outside of Creative mode is the least fun. Overall I agree, but I never use cheats or creative mode because some part of my brain is broke, and it feels like I didn't "earn" what I have. It's dumb, I know. But in some games I like the reward that comes with menial toil and the thought that if I have a big base one day, it's because I mined every single chunk of rock used to build it. As a consequence, I just never play the game for more than 15 min at a time after each major patch.
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Apr 25, 2019 16:59
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Do you think in the new update Hello Games will give us the option of skipping the lovely base building quests in permadeath? Unlikely, but a traveller can dream.
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Apr 25, 2019 17:52
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Ideally I’d like a mix of creative mode, but still have the option of danger/sentinels in it.
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Apr 25, 2019 18:45
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The_Doctor posted:Ideally I’d like a mix of creative mode, but still have the option of danger/sentinels in it. I want all the recipes and blueprints off the start and I just need to mine for the stuff. I'm definitely going to be playing in creative mode when I do VR though.
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Apr 25, 2019 18:47
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The_Doctor posted:Ideally I’d like a mix of creative mode, but still have the option of danger/sentinels in it. I'd be ok if they just let everything stack to 99999.
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Apr 25, 2019 18:49
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Yeah casual mode with 9999 stacks, fast mining, all blueprints, but still having combat would be nice.
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Apr 25, 2019 18:56
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Yes, that would be great. The limited holding absolutely hampers the game.
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Apr 25, 2019 19:17
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The_Doctor posted:Yes, that would be great. The limited holding absolutely hampers the game. Every time I open a storage container and see the arbitrary 5 slots instead of anything symmetrical like 9 or even 12, I feel a little more dead inside. Giant cube container. Game where inventories are clearly arranged in grids. 5 slots in the container...
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Apr 25, 2019 19:28
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ToastyPotato posted:Every time I open a storage container and see the arbitrary 5 slots instead of anything symmetrical like 9 or even 12, I feel a little more dead inside. Giant cube container. Game where inventories are clearly arranged in grids. 5 slots in the container... Yeah, there should be multiple sizes of storage and that largest one should have tons of slots and stacking of thousands of items.
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Are the Gek the only ones selling hyperdrive range upgrades? I just stumbled over a vendor selling modules which would have expanded my yellow little fighter's range by a whopping 800%. For some reason I had expected this kind of thing more from the Korvax. I was kind of sad that the upgrades where locked behind a faction level I hadn't reached yet. I guess it's time to be nicer to the Gek!
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Apr 25, 2019 20:10
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I think it's all races. Found them for sale from the Vy'keen which was handy because one of my frigates had just brought back a huge pile of their affinity up items.
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Apr 25, 2019 20:27
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Party Boat posted:I think it's all races. Found them for sale from the Vy'keen which was handy because one of my frigates had just brought back a huge pile of their affinity up items. Ah, frigates. Today I spend some time climbing and repairing my frigates. I had two out of three of my tiny fleet damaged for months, as I just couldn't be arsed to do something. It was an interesting experience. I drew two conclusions from this: 1. Korvax like to drive their space craft drunk 2. This was fun the first time, but I can already see it getting old fast. Would be nice if NMS had some sort of fast repair option for the times where you don't want to crawl through industrial pipework for ages.
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Apr 25, 2019 22:04
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The_Doctor posted:Resource farming to create things outside of Creative mode is the least fun. Why farm when you can buy 95% of anything you may want in bulk at a space station once you're space rich? I don't play in Creative but I have bought hundreds of thousands of units of pure ferrite over time. Though I guess there's always that one thing that really brings the base together but it requires some goofy item that can only be obtained from a giant clam or something.
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Chromatic metal too. Why spend 3 hours mining copper deposits when you can buy 15,000 from some dude in 20 seconds? You then make your expenses back and then some by kicking down a door and downloading some data for the korvax. Dont Touch ME fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Apr 25, 2019 |
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Apr 25, 2019 22:45
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Once you have some Indium and some Chromatic Metal, as long as you have a medium or large refiner you can make unlimited Chromatic Metal for free.
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Storage is my main complaint. The progression from farming to buying didn't phase me much, but what does is everytime I hoover something up and then need to laboriously move it from my backpack into the high-storage backpack in my backpack, or as mentioned have to juggle fuel cells, or want to build something but my backpack is full even though building it would create one or two blank spots for it to go in. Also an option to turn off text staggering. Actually, no, UI is still my main complaint. I'm on a controller, just make the response options in dialogues button prompts already.
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Apr 25, 2019 22:55
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The_Doctor posted:Resource farming to create things outside of Creative mode is the least fun. This poo poo became a gaming cancer once survival titles hit it bit and each one has 900 unique resources that you have to grind and place in bunch of labeled storage containers. I dont know why NMS adopted this crap.
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s.i.r.e. posted:This poo poo became a gaming cancer once survival titles hit it bit and each one has 900 unique resources that you have to grind and place in bunch of labeled storage containers. I dont know why NMS adopted this crap. And thank god for that, as I'm a sucker for that poo poo. The only reason I never played Minecraft is because I prefer my Legos made from real plastic and assembled per hand on my desk, thank you very much But otherwise, I could spend literally weeks on fake assembling odd gizmos using fictional greebles made from 10³ different types of fake materials. If my body wouldn't insist on needing food, water and sleep occasionally, I would literally never stop playing Libluini fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Apr 26, 2019 |
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Apr 26, 2019 09:57
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Games are a disease, we all suffer from games.
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If it wasn't the plan initially then I'm sure once a big publisher got involved there were meetings stressing the utmost importance of competing in a traditional game space rather than releasing a highly marketed narrative-driven space walksim. Resource gathering is an extremely simple way to incentivise actually landing on the planets the entire tech is built around delivering. You just tie everything to a backend that says shoot x for y and you don't have to worry about creating a way to deliver unique story locations across arbitrary planets. You can kind of still see the latter in things like the portals, but that's like scan, land, done.
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Apr 26, 2019 10:19
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I always like gathering and building. I only played Fallout 4 for the settlements.
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Apr 26, 2019 11:32
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John F Bennett posted:I always like gathering and building. I only played Fallout 4 for the settlements. Yeah. I actually got bored with FO4 when I realized how flawed and buggy the settlement system was. Couldn't be bothered to finish the story. A dream game for me is basically FO4 settlement building with much larger, randomly generated (but still very good) maps. But also the settlements would be better/have more features for management. Basically a first person post apocalyptic city builder. Or a first person Rimworld... I'd even throw some Fallout Shelter features into it, like sending settlers on missions of their own, which is basically like the frigate system in NMS. Gear them up, pack them with food, water, meds, etc, and see what they bring back, if they survive at all.
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chaosapiant posted:Overall I agree, but I never use cheats or creative mode because some part of my brain is broke, and it feels like I didn't "earn" what I have. It's dumb, I know. But in some games I like the reward that comes with menial toil and the thought that if I have a big base one day, it's because I mined every single chunk of rock used to build it. As a consequence, I just never play the game for more than 15 min at a time after each major patch. Oh my god are you me? That's absolutely my experience as well, although I've been able to get a few more minutes out of it. When I play, I usually spend the first chunk of time just harvesting things and getting enough resources so I won't have to stop in the middle of exploring/flying around/fighting to shoot more di-hydrogen because my stupid ship is out of stupid launch fuel.
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Lucas Archer posted:Oh my god are you me? That's absolutely my experience as well, although I've been able to get a few more minutes out of it. When I play, I usually spend the first chunk of time just harvesting things and getting enough resources so I won't have to stop in the middle of exploring/flying around/fighting to shoot more di-hydrogen because my stupid ship is out of stupid launch fuel. Same. I do this in a lot of games and end up burning out. I try to go against my brokebrain and just..."enjoy" a game sometimes. But then I feel guilty and turn it off.
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With me it's not about guilt; I find it's possible to actually enjoy the process of gathering resources, as long as it's either an interesting experience (have to fight challenging enemies, have to work out how to safely get them and get back home, whatever) or a chill one. I still occasionally fire up Minecraft for both reasons - there's something relaxing about going out and digging up those little ore blocks, and deliberately getting lost in huge underground caves lets me turn that chill experience into an absolutely feral one where I beat zombies to death with my fists and eat them while I hunt for the passage that'll take me home. But, like, in a chill way. After that, the feeling of building an awesome mansion full of riches is just a nice little capstone. Sort of a "look what I have wrought. I cannot be killed and also my taste in architecture is impeccable" moment. No Man's Sky doesn't quite hit that mark, for me. Exploring is interesting and I love talking to all the weird aliens, but mining and building just don't... feel good in this game. I wish I could pinpoint why.
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Apr 26, 2019 16:08
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I built a house. I accidentally added a roof stretching out over nothing. I cannot get rid of it. Why.
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Yea, doing the "toil" part of a resource gathering game is best when that part of the game is engaging. Minecraft does it very well because there's always something new to see and experience. Stardew Valley is another game where I enjoy the moment to moment gameplay. With NMS, I find I'm doing menial things just so that I can do "fun" things later.Lucas Archer posted:I built a house. I accidentally added a roof stretching out over nothing. I cannot get rid of it. Why. Make the house bigger to fit the roof?
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chaosapiant posted:Yea, doing the "toil" part of a resource gathering game is best when that part of the game is engaging. Minecraft does it very well because there's always something new to see and experience. Stardew Valley is another game where I enjoy the moment to moment gameplay. With NMS, I find I'm doing menial things just so that I can do "fun" things later. That's not the "aesthetic" I was going for though. Edit: gently caress Trump's sad, I'm just boo hoo sad because I don't get exactly what I want. One thing I think about NMS is it's a very slow burn at the beginning, but once you have a few pieces of tech and blueprints under your belt, it becomes much easier. Also finding a planet where you don't have to constantly worry about your hazard suit's power dropping is nice. Find yourself a nice humid planet and explore to your hearts content.
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Yea, I have yet to settle on a planet. And if/when I do, a major update comes out that turns it into a barren hellscape so I have to relocate. I like the idea of nesting in a system and just sticking around a general area and making it my own.
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chaosapiant posted:Yea, I have yet to settle on a planet. And if/when I do, a major update comes out that turns it into a barren hellscape so I have to relocate. I like the idea of nesting in a system and just sticking around a general area and making it my own. I really wish there was a way to attract, resettle, or recruit random NPCs as opposed to the preset base guys. I'd love to find a pretty planet somewhere, build a little sci-fi settlement on it, and fill it up with stumpy fat lizards, lumpy pastel Klingons, and beeping CRT robots to learn words from and do odd jobs for.
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