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MiddleOne posted:That's like the most pointless spoiler tag. I have no idea what it is referring to anyway. Without having seen anything in S2, it refers to some specific book material that is both important to the cohesiveness to the main plot, largely self contained in terms of actual material, but also good exposition on some of the core concepts within the story. Just having read over what's happened in the show, it seems like the content of that plot might be covered by in the show by having Mad Sweeney turned from a significant god into a minor character within Christianity, diminishing his power as a god as a result. This largely mirrors the kobold from the book, while simultaneously removing what would otherwise be a long and largely boring subplot. Again, I haven't caught up in the show so I could be way off, but that's my take.
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It's quite common, particularly in US television, for a show to have too many episodes and therefore need filler episodes to pad out the plot. Often these filler episodes can even be entertaining. This is the first show I've ever watched however that has had a filler season. I really don't know why they needed to turn one not particularly long novel into several seasons of television. I think American gods could have been done quite nicely in a single say 12 episode season. That being said, despite having now had 7 episodes of nothing happening, I don't think I've ever had so much fun watching nothing happen before.
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The Lord Bude posted:
This is how I feel watching this show as well. It's the Seinfeld of Dramas.
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MiddleOne posted:That's like the most pointless spoiler tag. I have no idea what it is referring to anyway. It's significant, though you don't know it at the moment. Don't read if you care about that part of the story: It's a 'twist' of sorts. If you didn't know that there was a god involved, the plot feels like a sort of grim mystery, kinda twin peaksy thing. Knowing that everything is caused by a god kinda fucks all that up, so even though you don't know what 'the kobold' is referencing, you have now been spoiled. EDIT: Also, though I don't particularly enjoy that part of the book, it's general 'wow there's literally nothing happening' really fits this show very well, so they'd probably manage to do it justice. Kaedric fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Apr 26, 2019 |
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Has a show ever gone to poo poo harder than this one between S1 and S2? The first season was some of the most intriguing TV I had seen. This season on the other hand is just an empty husk, a soulless zombie of what it used to be. There is no content, no agency, nothing to be excited about. The characters just gently caress about aimlessly. It's just an endless stream of lame dream sequences and some embarassing politics, but there's next to no story. Nothing to engage the viewer. Wednesday and a few others still steal scenes, but It's as if all of the characters just stopped living after the first season was over.
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goodposter posted:Has a show ever gone to poo poo harder than this one between S1 and S2? Heroes
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precision posted:Heroes Great example. Really is no other comparison. Remember Peter's apocalypse girlfriend he abandons in an even worse timeline and they never bring it up again for the rest of the show? What a sloppy series. AG has production/showrunner problems but heroes felt like they were firing their entire writing staff every 6-8 episodes after that first season.
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Mameluke posted:Stop letting Fuller go, shows He might just be really hard to work with/demanding only reason i can think of why this keeps happening (im aware his drama here is budget stuff and gaiman stuff supposedly). Pretty sure he only got to finish Hannibal because De Laurentiis seemed to like him and he was actually elevating a lot of the later book material. Tokubetsu fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Apr 27, 2019 |
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I may hate Jeff Bezos with the passion of a thousand suns, but imagine if Amazon had picked up American Gods instead of Starz, they would have probably let Fuller do anything until he pissed off Gaiman enough. (which would be something since Neil doesn't seem like that kind of guy to get angry)
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Honestly though, it's so weird to me to hear people criticize this season for being a meandering mess where nothing of import happens. I mean season 1 was literally exactly the same.
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Mameluke posted:Stop letting Fuller go, shows Just let him make Hannibal seasons 4-whatever. It is where his heart is.
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Tokubetsu posted:Great example. Really is no other comparison. Remember Peter's apocalypse girlfriend he abandons in an even worse timeline and they never bring it up again for the rest of the show? What a sloppy series. AG has production/showrunner problems but heroes felt like they were firing their entire writing staff every 6-8 episodes after that first season. The whole season was predicated on a guy lying to Peter for most of the season, and Peter now knowing who he could trust. Peter had the ability to read minds at the time.
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precision posted:Honestly though, it's so weird to me to hear people criticize this season for being a meandering mess where nothing of import happens. I mean season 1 was literally exactly the same. No, they actually had plot development in season 1, even if it was only to the house on the rock which is only like 5 pages into the book. Like, season 1 was pretty and had cool side stories... but it had direction, which this season hasn't. Whoever called it a filler season earlier is fuckin spot on.
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pyrotek posted:Just let him make Hannibal seasons 4-whatever. It is where his heart is. If Trump promised to bring back Hannibal I'd go full chud in a heartbeat.
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Tokubetsu posted:Great example. Really is no other comparison. Remember Peter's apocalypse girlfriend he abandons in an even worse timeline and they never bring it up again for the rest of the show? What a sloppy series. AG has production/showrunner problems but heroes felt like they were firing their entire writing staff every 6-8 episodes after that first season. Falling Skies did exactly this
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goodposter posted:Has a show ever gone to poo poo harder than this one between S1 and S2? Sleepy Hollow. Although arguably the decline started midway through season 2 and really fell off a cliff in season 3.
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Mameluke posted:Stop letting Fuller go, shows If Fuller wants 100% creative control on his shows then he needs to deliver on the ratings front, or scale back his ambitions. He can't blame the network for not giving him a bigger budget when his shows are doing poorly.
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goodposter posted:Has a show ever gone to poo poo harder than this one between S1 and S2? Legion and Westworld both loving cratered for me in recent memory.
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END ME SCOOB posted:Legion and Westworld both loving cratered for me in recent memory. Ironically they're also very similar to American Gods. Big budgets, great casts, solid work on a strictly technical level and an interesting but at times underwhelming first season. Then season 2 comes and it's nothing but a big wet fart that has no idea what it wants to say or where it's going.
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I'm enjoying the show as a bunch of well-executed evocative but unconnected character and portent filled set pieces that sometimes share actors. Sometimes you just want snatches of a story, without worrying about plot arcs or continuity. And for those times, American Gods delivers.
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Sarcastr0 posted:I'm enjoying the show as a bunch of well-executed evocative but unconnected character and portent filled set pieces that sometimes share actors.  Oh, I guess there's a new Betty. Oh drat, Technical Boy! Oh, I guess he's fine. We're all stuck in Cairo, and Mr. Wednesday is leaving to go on a drive again.  Most damning, to me is that the finale put me to sleep. I'm an old  and nearly all TV puts me to sleep, unless I'm really excited about it. This is the first time I've fallen asleep during an AG episode.
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2 seasons. Literally nothing has happened.
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bort posted:I get it, and I have nominally enjoyed this season on that level, too. But if the show did that in season 1, it would not have made it to season 2. This isn't a sitcom. Things are supposed to progress. So, I'm finding my enthusiasm is flagging. It is starting to feel formulaic, and so many changes that weren't forced on the show got undone. omg, Betty! It helps that the Gods coming to America narratives were my favorite part of season 1, and those were untethered from plot as well.
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It's what Gaiman is really good at -- connecting disparate mythologies in a novel way. The stagnation gives the audience a chance to pick the show apart, though.
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I enjoyed it too. I really hope that Dead Wife is able to resurrect Sweeney, somehow. And then they can be a dead couple together.
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precision posted:I really liked the finale Like last week, I like the episode on its own. As a season finale, it was garbage, because nothing happened this season.
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the escape goat posted:There’s another episode tonight. And some (including Cojawfee) have already seen it.
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e: sweet double mobile posting uh I hope Sweeney comes back in the same body but a slightly different personality (but only because I really don’t want to lose Pablo Schreiber)
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The whole intro was great, Crispin Glover is great I'm actually glad tech boy is back but also not sure what his rebranding was supposed to be about. If the surface reading is intended then he's just a copy or appendage of World now, which has weird book spoiler implications. if he's now just another manifestation of Loki then that actually makes sense because World is just causing chaos now, presumably so that Odin can "save" humanity and accomplish the "god/devil two man con" Whatever's going on with Mr. Nancy and Ibis is very interesting "Check, motherfucker" lmao Bilquis continues to be the only outright waste of time imo.
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precision posted:
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mallratcal posted:I thought Tech Boy was just a face Media was wearing. Nah it was implied to be World, "I can be in two places at once"
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END ME SCOOB posted:Legion and Westworld both loving cratered for me in recent memory. Westworld season 2: Who gives a gently caress about cowboys, give us more B-team adventures in samurai world!!
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That didn't make any sense at all. I guess maybe the plot can progress next season. See y'all in 18 months! 
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