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Springfield Fatts posted:This thread loving rules. My brother and I would honeypot dipshits at our local store because he painted his German army in neon pink and the Wehraboos couldn't help but trip over their own dicks to defend the tiny plastic Nazi honor. Hahaha this is great. Springfield Fatts posted:Always call these assholes out because surprise, they're all giant cowards and are used to being in settings where people just stay quiet and try to ignore them until they go away and anyone telling them to gently caress off is a huge shock to them. Also this can't really be overstated. This stuff festers because people are too polite to make waves and tell them to gently caress off.
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The solution as to how you should paint your Nazi/Confederate flags in miniature games is simple. Paint them white, cause they lost.
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I'd probably roll eyes at pink nazis, but that's entirely because I assume a social contract to (at least attempt) adherence to the era. I completely respect your reasoning, however. Pink is better than enthusiast.
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Apr 26, 2019 16:07
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LordAba posted:I think you missed the point... which was that many people don't know that side of him, so branding people a certain way based on if they like Gary or not is pretty disingenuous. So on one hand I was talking about specific alt-right communities that really like AD&D and Gary Gygax specifically because of his “unusual opinions” rather than anyone who has something positive to say about Gary Gygax, but one the other hand I’m sure pretty sure you know what “fascist adjacent or whatever” means really, really intimately.
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Apr 26, 2019 16:08
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Springfield Fatts posted:This thread loving rules. My brother and I would honeypot dipshits at our local store because he painted his German army in neon pink and the Wehraboos couldn't help but trip over their own dicks to defend the tiny plastic Nazi honor. Always call these assholes out because surprise, they're all giant cowards and are used to being in settings where people just stay quiet and try to ignore them until they go away and anyone telling them to gently caress off is a huge shock to them. Reminds me of my brother. Plays a lot of xbox with his coworkers at lunch and they make sure they have the most LGBTQ supporting rainbow clan tags possible to honeypot people into screaming homophobic slurs at them. Ms emails you if your report results in a ban and they have a board up at work in their gay bosses office with a user account kill list and he just beams over it.
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Harvey Mantaco posted:Reminds me of my brother. Plays a lot of xbox with his coworkers at lunch and they make sure they have the most LGBTQ supporting rainbow clan tags possible to honeypot people into screaming homophobic slurs at them. Ms emails you if your report results in a ban and they have a board up at work in their gay bosses office with a user account kill list and he just beams over it. This thread gives me hope for our species.
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Apr 26, 2019 16:47
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I always said that if I ever end up playing WW2 I'd paint the nazis as Ultramarines. Gotta use all these decals for something.
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Apr 26, 2019 17:22
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MasterSlowPoke posted:I always said that if I ever end up playing WW2 I'd paint the nazis as Ultramarines. Gotta use all these decals for something. My first reaction was "that's awesome and clever and I like it" and then I immediately realized that there are enough Space Marine fanboys out there that would totally miss the inherent satire and would think you were going for exactly the opposite effect.
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Re: Swastikas on Nazis in wargames The thing is that the Nazis didn't actually have a lot of swastikas on their vehicles. There were a few on uniforms, but these are too small to paint for the most part. The only places they had swastikas on vehicles were on the tail of airplanes, in a couple of unit insignias, and as improvised aerial recognition devices, where the Third Reich flag would be draped over the top of a tank's turret or a truck's hood. This last one is a particularly popular among cryptofascists as a way to add some juicy swastikas to their toy nazis, but it was only common practice for a very limited period during the war, and usually only on the leading vehicle of a column - But these guys will lovingly drape a Third Reich flag all over every one of their vehicles. In other words, not even actual nazis used enough swastikas for these people.
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Apr 26, 2019 17:25
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Harvey Mantaco posted:Reminds me of my brother. Plays a lot of xbox with his coworkers at lunch and they make sure they have the most LGBTQ supporting rainbow clan tags possible to honeypot people into screaming homophobic slurs at them. Ms emails you if your report results in a ban and they have a board up at work in their gay bosses office with a user account kill list and he just beams over it. Oh my God that's amazing.
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Deified Data posted:This is why every historical player needs a Nazi army. I'm this exact type of person. When success is unlikely it feels a lot better when it happens.
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:Wondered how long it would take Aba to show up... I've responded now so let's see how it shakes out. Tweet thread starts here: https://twitter.com/corrodepaints/status/1121288602808463361
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I'm way behind and I apologise for the inevitable "well, actually" here, but, SS Divisions were actually mirrored... on the western front. The US got a bunch of unique lists representing specific divisions during the Bulge books and the other "late-late war" stuff, including some that specifically represented the 761st Tank Battalion and the 442nd ID. The soviets well and truly got nothing, though; even when they specifically called out divisions as being different (like paras or naval infantry), they were reprints of the rifle/motor rifle divisions, stats and all (sometimes with fewer weapon options). But, yeah, it is better; there's Veterans in the stalingrad books now, even. Drone posted:It's sorta for this reason that I have never given a thought to getting into WW2 historical wargaming (despite thinking Bolt Action looks like a bunch of fun). Afraid not. It's your pick of prussian or other nationalist idealisation, lost cause, colonialism, islamophobia (especially in the context of "well it's just the crusades")...
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Mors Rattus posted:I don't think you could accidentally run across the Black Sun image, or mistake it for being actually Norse because it literally first shows up when Heinrich Himmler decided to remodel a castle, but it is possible that one of their sculptors slipped it past them with that as a story. If you search on Google images for cool circular runes, then the Black Sun shows up as the 25th image. I think it's entirely possible that this is exactly what happened. They looked on Google Images to find eye-catching things, found this, didn't recognize it, and didn't do any follow up research.
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Apr 26, 2019 20:07
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Corrode posted:I've responded now so let's see how it shakes out. Tweet thread starts here: https://twitter.com/corrodepaints/status/1121288602808463361 Fuckin lol at dismissing Nazis as "grown up themes". gently caress this bootlick.
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Apr 26, 2019 20:14
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Someone should point out to him that National Socialist is the actual Nazi party, in case he's just phenomenally ignorant.
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Apr 26, 2019 20:17
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That just invites "Nazis were actually left wing, they even had socialist in the name!" whaargling. Sure, it's true, but using the NDSAP and Nazis interchangably muddles the distinction between real live Nazis now and a political party which died in 1945
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Apr 26, 2019 20:29
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evol262 posted:That just invites "Nazis were actually left wing, they even had socialist in the name!" whaargling. Sure, it's true, but using the NDSAP and Nazis interchangably muddles the distinction between real live Nazis now and a political party which died in 1945 The guy in the comments originating this is describing himself as "an advocate for National Socialism" hence why Joe's using the term.
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Apr 26, 2019 20:34
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Someone should point out to him that National Socialist is the actual Nazi party, in case he's just phenomenally ignorant. I'm sure he would have been continually poo poo on if he didn't pull this: 
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Apr 26, 2019 20:51
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Asmodai_00 posted:I'm sure he would have been continually poo poo on if he didn't pull this: "I will sit down and play tabletop with anyone regardless of their positions and have a good friendly time doing so." I guess that's the difference between people. Some refuse to play games with Nazis, and others are okay with it. Personally I prefer to play with people who aren't Nazis, or assholes, or cheaters, or a wide variety of other toxic traits which I don't need to experience while I'm having fun playing a game.
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It's all fun and table-top games until after the game and they go back wanting to exterminate you for being subhuman.
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Apr 26, 2019 21:54
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Asmodai_00 posted:I'm sure he would have been continually poo poo on if he didn't pull this: I feel like this makes Warren look worse because now you've got a self described Nazi in your community that you've not only turned a blind eye to* but have more or less made welcome. Imagine being so desperate to appear apolitical that you won't take a stance against a loving Nazi. *btw are we doing this with Aba now or is there some rule he needs to break in addition to being a fascist pig before he can be banned?
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:"I will sit down and play tabletop with anyone regardless of their positions and have a good friendly time doing so." (its a lie beergod)
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jakodee posted:(its a lie beergod) People don't lie on the Internet. Especially not about controversial opinions that could cost them money.
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The socialism in "National Socialism" is a lie too... but Ada is probably the only one ITT that doesn't already know this. Anyway, so yeah: I got 15 & 28mm Nazis. The 15mm Nazis don't have any flags and the 28mm Nazis are unpainted. I have a fine plan to paint them up in a cartoonish, cell shaded technique, and there will be a flag: A Yellow Don't Tread on My snake with the text "Gewehrgeräusche" ("gun noise" in german. "gun sounds" translates to "Pistole ertönt" which doesn't look very german at all). But I haven't painted them. They've been sitting in boxes in a semi-assembled state for nearly 2 years now. Between the political climate and 40k not being poo poo I just don't want to touch them. The Nazis are not my only WW2 army, I've got Joes in both scales as well. GoonSir SexCannon said, on his pod, that if you have to justify a choice then it is a bad choice (paraphrasing!). I think German war machines are sexy. I get a kick out of being the bad guy: as mentioned above it's doesn't sting when I loose because then I get to poo poo talk my own army for things like "just following orders". Is that capital J justification? I don't think so but I could be wrong. I definitely think about it...
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The solution to playing as the Germans in WWII games is to paint the uniforms midnight blue with a big red logo on their chest, maybe some kind of venomous snake
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I'm skipping the red logo but they will be dark blue with heavy black lining. Using Sgt. Rock comics as source.
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I've been watching this youtube channel LittleWarsTV which comes off a little too basement dad for my tastes sometimes but overall a nice refuge from the godawful dregs most historical wargaming videos are. Hadn't seen anything too egregious yet even though they all seem to be ex-military which is strike one in my book, but then they were doing an Antietam game complete with a nerd in costume. Luckily it was a Union one, but still my fash-sense was tingling. Then I noticed this dude wandering around the game table. Oh gently caress. Growing up in the American South I'm used to seeing the Confederate flag slapped on all kinds of lovely merchandise with even shittier sayings underneath it. Computer, enhance.  Well... ok. They also have a video where they discuss playing as Germans in WWII and don't whitewash it or try and pull a clean Wehrmacht act or anything. They call them the monsters they are but come to the view I think a lot of us do where you can play the game but never glorify the actions or actors. But then they have another video where they are shooting guns at a range and it just happens to be a bunch of loving Nazi guns... at targets that were all German soldiers and a melon drawn with Hitler's face. In conclusion this channel is a land of contrasts. Thank you.
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Apr 27, 2019 05:02
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That post took a pleasant turn when I read the shirt text
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Springfield Fatts posted:I've been watching this youtube channel LittleWarsTV which comes off a little too basement dad for my tastes sometimes but overall a nice refuge from the godawful dregs most historical wargaming videos are. Hadn't seen anything too egregious yet even though they all seem to be ex-military which is strike one in my book, but then they were doing an Antietam game complete with a nerd in costume. Luckily it was a Union one, but still my fash-sense was tingling. Then I noticed this dude wandering around the game table. They are deep cover agents covertly signaling allegiance to their handlers. Who they are in deep cover AS is beyond me.
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Apr 27, 2019 05:05
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jakodee posted:Who they are in deep cover AS is beyond me. nerds
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:
Just point out that he's a bigly fan of literal concentration camps for children every time he tries to "hello fellow goons" a thread. We can't make him gently caress off, but we also don't have to pretend he isn't a oval office.
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jakodee posted:So on one hand I was talking about specific alt-right communities that really like AD&D and Gary Gygax specifically because of his “unusual opinions” rather than anyone who has something positive to say about Gary Gygax, but one the other hand I’m sure pretty sure you know what “fascist adjacent or whatever” means really, really intimately. Sorry about the assumption! But I really don't know what adjacent means in this context. Ally, apologist, sure, but not adjacent.
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LordAba posted:I think you missed the point... which was that many people don't know that side of him, so branding people a certain way based on if they like Gary or not is pretty disingenuous. Was that incident your Notre-Dame? Was a board game being removed from shelves your crying pepe putting on a nazi hat moment? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Gygax's psychopathy doesn't get examined much because a) it was largely posted on some extremely niche forums (I think it was Dragonsfoot, AKA AD&D 1e above all else hardliners), and b) it was all said well after he had any influence on D&D at all. Most people just know him as the quirky D&D creator who was on Futurama and by the handful of "inspirational" quotes that make the rounds every time an anniversary comes up.
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LordAba posted:Sorry about the assumption! But I really don't know what adjacent means in this context. Ally, apologist, sure, but not adjacent. You. Edit: Those who share many political ideas, values, concepts or aesthetics as fascists, but who differ in such a way that while they might ally with or become fascists, they currently are not. (you) jakodee fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Apr 27, 2019 |
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LordAba posted:Sorry about the assumption! But I really don't know what adjacent means in this context. Ally, apologist, sure, but not adjacent. Fash adjacent: people who are accepting of and make excuses for fash. It would be a decent word to describe you, but once you start advocating for putting kids in concentration camps you just become fash rather than being fash adjacent.
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Springfield Fatts posted:I've been watching this youtube channel LittleWarsTV which comes off a little too basement dad for my tastes sometimes but overall a nice refuge from the godawful dregs most historical wargaming videos are. Hadn't seen anything too egregious yet even though they all seem to be ex-military which is strike one in my book, but then they were doing an Antietam game complete with a nerd in costume. Luckily it was a Union one, but still my fash-sense was tingling. Then I noticed this dude wandering around the game table. What a roller coaster.
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What does wanting to paint my FoW Germans in the color schemes from the original Wolfenstein 3d count as? And is there one of those sound effect keychains with clips from the game available? (My Brits would probably just be in various Dalek schemes because Doctor Who....) Also is there an in scale BJ Blascowitz mini available? I've got a few ideas I'll never do running in my head....
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Captain Rufus posted:What does wanting to paint my FoW Germans in the color schemes from the original Wolfenstein 3d count as? And is there one of those sound effect keychains with clips from the game available? (My Brits would probably just be in various Dalek schemes because Doctor Who....) gently caress yeah.
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