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Phaecia Yet another reason that Sailing rules. Our territory is, over-land, about as far from Tien'Chi as you can possibly be. We would never be able to take some delicious free bites out that AI empire otherwise. So we balled up a stack of a poo poo-load of Longbows and Orichalcum Guard and set sail across the narrow sea to beat up on some china men. It's a big dumb doomstack that doesn't have mage support, but our scouting shows that there aren't any real Tien'Chi armies on that peninsula, so we should just be walking onto forts, cracking them, and brute forcing whatever small poo poo is inside. A crude yet effective blunt instrument. Pelagia has successfully driven us out of our meager undersea holdings (curse upon him for this treachery) but otherwise seems to understand that he can't prosecute that war above the water. We will never forget and never forgive Pelagian injustice, however, so we plot and scheme to take back what was ours.
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Looking at their roster, oh wow is helote morale bad. Using them with any commander other than a Tyrant seems like a huge dice roll.
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Actually, using a Tyrant to lead helotes is a bit of a waste, perhaps even counterproductive. They've got 95 leadership, but a 'hidden' (see fluff) penalty to leadership. They do not get the standard +1 morale bonus to troops from having +80 leadership and they cannot use any formations other than box and skirmish. Because of that, they'll only give one more morale than a Trophimos Commander despite their larger taskmaster bonus. The Trophimos Commander has a proper 80 leadership granting formations and +1 morale and +2 taskmaster. As a result they only get one less morale than when lead by a Tyrant, and considerably more flexibility. If you still need a bit of a buffer, you have easy access to the Helmet of Heroes and Dwarven Hammers - but of course a few Gigantes Warriors are better at storming the gates and you don't want any leftover from expansion lying around in your territory. And if you don't have Gigantes around, the Cyclops Warriors, while trash, will NOT refuse to be lead by the tiny mens, for more morale than under a Tyrant. Honestly might consider a palisades dedicated to Trophimos and the occasional cyclops chieftain.
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I forget are there any sacred rock throwers cause that could be a fun idiot gimmick to do sometime
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Ah, yeah, given that the Trophimos Commander would definitely be the better choice. I'd missed they had Taskmaster 2, instead of 1 like everything else other than the Tyrants, so was dismissing them, and wasn't aware the Tyrants didn't get the 80 ld bonus either. I wasn't even thinking the Tyrants were ideal in the first place, given their huge cost, being cap-only and StR, and not even being sacred to reduce the upkeep, but wasn't seeing anything else to get what were effectively some combination of chaff/line troops to even morale 10. On another matter... PurpleXVI posted:What kind of spooky horror is that Marignon has for a neighbour? Is it one of the really nasty ones? Since this wasn't answered, it's "merely" a regular Horror (which still massacres most basic armies/pd). I'm more interested in HOW it got there this early. Is there some super rare event that can spawn one, or is this just some spectacular misfortune involving a horror mark? Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Apr 28, 2019 |
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Kitfox88 posted:I forget are there any sacred rock throwers cause that could be a fun idiot gimmick to do sometime ancient ones, the big pale one guys. they suck poo poo!
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i was hoping for ones OTHER than those guys who suck poo poo 
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Kitfox88 posted:I forget are there any sacred rock throwers cause that could be a fun idiot gimmick to do sometime You can give a sacred giant a Bag of Pebbles.
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Ynglaur posted:You can give a sacred giant a Bag of Pebbles. Finally, a use for the get large bless?
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Units should automatically be able to trample anything two sizes smaller than they are, with the damage formula scaled to the size difference. The existing trampler flag is then used to indicate things like chariots or war elephants that are predisposed to trample enemy formations and only need to be one size larger and use a more powerful formula.
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Turn 36 Ok a lot is going on here.  Evocation 6.  I have some plans.  Also thaum 1-3. Panic is good. No sites found so on to the battles...  My army for the throne fight.  And theirs. Spoiler they just cast water ward again.  I, however, do not abide by any of these 'no water elemental' treaties.  My sacreds smash their flank and gun for the back line while the wave warriors on the bottom half seem to just sort of stale as they grind through them.  Guys, please get out of the way for my water elementals.  well nvm you got it  None of my sacreds died anyway.   Cleaning up an indie attacked TC prov look at these dudes.   They are absolutely annihilated though.   The next TC PD clear is a barb prov redux. On to events!  This site is like some dev's weird pet project isn't it. How come other sites aren't this chatty.  Lazy good for nothing peasants!  It keeps happening!  thoughts and prayers   I patrol this rear end in a top hat out. quote:Ramc  Okay so what is this throaaahahahahahhahahahahaahahhahah  Awe makes it so anything taking a swing at your sacreds has to make a morale check or not even attack. It's pretty good against riff raff troops but most undead, demons and other elite troops have really good morale.  Overview!  Oh hey it is C'tis!Ii will kick them out eventually. No peace beneath the waves.  I leap back into the indie seas. Phaecia is now hitting that coast fortress. Fine, I guess.  I hit the 'i' key to see what that event in the province I took from TC is about. A swordsman, huh?  This hat gives the wearer +1 astral path.  The orders. I am moving into Phaecia cap area he may find this threatening. Good, if so!
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Around this time I learned to my dismay that Ramc has no appreciation for fine Elven music.
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That throne seems like one of the ones you grab in an instant.
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All the thrones in this game are basically "ones you grab in an instant" because they're all Level 3 thrones
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Ramc posted:
Preacher: "Being good for nothing is the only true form of good!" Populace: whoaaaa
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Conot posted:All the thrones in this game are basically "ones you grab in an instant" because they're all Level 3 thrones except the 'here's a bunch of gems but you can't train any more troops forever' throne
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ChickenWing posted:except the 'here's a bunch of gems but you can't train any more troops forever' throne It isn't THAT dire but yes I want troops for now. Any throne that gives big negative scales swings you probably want to think about for a second.
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Ramc posted:Any throne that gives big negative scales swings you probably want to think about for a second. except creation, the only thing to think about there is "can i leverage this before everyone else in the game tries to kill me/take it"
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Ramc posted:It isn't THAT dire but yes I want troops for now. Any throne that gives big negative scales swings you probably want to think about for a second. Oh come on, what's the worst that could happen with Turmoil3/Misfortune3?  (Serious question. I know the game unlucks special "gently caress you" events for those combos and they're often deliciously sadistic.)
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Lord Koth posted:
Horror cult event chain. If you don't root out the cult, eventually they perform a ritual to summon a horror, the effects of which you now see.
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FilthIncarnate posted:Horror cult event chain. If you don't root out the cult, eventually they perform a ritual to summon a horror, the effects of which you now see. My first reaction to this was that a horror cult seemed pretty self-defeating, but considering the experience of random peasants in Dominions I can see the appeal of a gently caress-you to the powers that be.
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I don't see that worshipping a horror is any worse than worshipping your average pretender god really.
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Pharnakes posted:I don't see that worshipping a horror is any worse than worshipping your average pretender god really. I'm surprised none of the pretenders is a Horror Creature tbh. Sure they eat people but so do some god chassis and oh yeah a couple of civilizations.
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But if god was a horror how could you get drawn away into the void???
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I like the theory that the whole cycle of pantokrators is orchestrated by horrors to produce the tastiest snacks.
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my dad posted:I like the theory that the whole cycle of pantokrators is orchestrated by horrors to produce the tastiest snacks. Or reality TV.
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The coming apocalypse is really just the network execs getting antsy about nielsen ratings.
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Well in this particular case by having a god with A7?
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Pharnakes posted:Well in this particular case by having a god with A7? Ups. Yeah, that would do it, I totally forgot. Phaecia must be glad that it's not very hard for them to get an Astral 3 caster.
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I adore those names, especially Sick of Swimming - Ready to STAAAND! and But That is a Big Mistake.
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my dad posted:I like the theory that the whole cycle of pantokrators is orchestrated by horrors to produce the tastiest snacks. The only thing arguing against this theory (at least in vanilla) is that even doom horrors are pretty killable by a robust pretender chassis; with whatever enhancements pantokrator gets you you would be able to dumpster basically anything.
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