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man it's insane how everything in this show now revolves around generating these moments that are supposed to make you go gently caress yea man!!!!!! but like a millisecond later just turn into "wait what" as your brain catches up and goes like wait how did that happen how does this make any sense the same thing happened last season when they killed littlefinger all of a sudden i started thinking of other poo poo like when jaime falls down what appears to be 500 feet of water while wearing like 100 pounds of armor and is just completely fine and swims back to king's landing or some poo poo lmao
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So Arya's secret weapon that she had Gendry make was just a spear that breaks into two pieces, like the one The Beastmaster has?
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Apr 29, 2019 07:17
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Apr 29, 2019 07:23
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My favorite part was when Character was about to die, but then Other Character teleported in out of nowhere to save them at the last second. Which must mean I really enjoyed it because that was about half the runtime Also glad to see that the Total War AI got a cameo as the combat strategist for this episode A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Who was she supposed to look like in this scenario, though? Bran rips off his face to reveal Arya. She tosses out a Mr. Freeze pun and then throws a dragonglass dagger into the Night King's frosty blue ballsack.
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Apr 29, 2019 07:25
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What made the Night King? The ice age!
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Apr 29, 2019 07:28
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hopefully other characters will also put in arya's face so she can do one of these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE8KlskLKzc
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Apr 29, 2019 07:29
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Tyrion and Sansa looked at each other all meaningfully, I thought for a split second they were going to kill themselves. But they were just getting hyped up to move a little bit.
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Apr 29, 2019 07:34
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Vargs posted:Also glad to see that the Total War AI got a cameo as the combat strategist for this episode The total war AI will usually put its infantry inside the walls during a siege defense which is more than you can say for Starkian Essos combined arms tactics.
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Apr 29, 2019 07:37
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I'm still curious about what happens in King's Landing, in season 2 Dany has a vision of a ruptured throne room and snow falling in it. So either there is bigger night king leader or the snow signifies Jon Snow's/Starks ascendancy to the iron throne.
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Apr 29, 2019 07:49
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Captain Lavender posted:Tyrion and Sansa looked at each other all meaningfully, I thought for a split second they were going to kill themselves. But they were just getting hyped up to move a little bit. Same. I thought it was going to be a brilliant and terrible moment, heart-wrenching as they end their lives before the stark-zombies can get them. Nope. They just needed to hold hands while random women in the background get butchered.
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Apr 29, 2019 07:58
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Nobody expected them to gently caress up the filming conditions and cinematography so badly the whole episode should be in the bin for that reason. Arya literally flying out of nowhere and shanking the night king with a dumb hollywood trick is the perfect ending to this adaption of asoiaf. Maybe you could add force-ghosts of Ned, Syrio, Jaqen and her Direwolf watching in the back of the shot but that is it, it couldn't be any more fitting.
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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-3-review-out-with/1100-6466520/ Should sum it all up.
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thats loving it? lmao trash
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the dothraki melting away was the best part of the whole episode
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The Dothraki charge reminds me of the fall of Denethor in Return of the King. Both of them are incredibly dramatic visuals achieved using fire, but both of them make no sense if you take even a moment to think about them (with Denethor if you see how far he had to run while ON FIRE there's just no loving way he made it even 10% of that distance). The sea of flaming swords all being extinguished in the darkness looked amazing, but everything else about it was... just so bad. Galloping horses across rough ground, at night, in supernaturally dark/blind conditions? And until they got the flaming sword upgrade how were they even going to damage the wights anyway? And a single huge charge, no flanking or distraction tactics? Assuming the Night King or White Walkers can res as they go, every single one of yours that dies becomes an extra soldier all your mates now have to kill. What the gently caress happened to the idea that the snow would be too deep for cavalry anyway? Trying to melt the snow enough to make it even viable was what made Stannis burn his daughter and now we've since had not one but two huge battles outside Winterfell where eh, gently caress it, winter's not so bad maybe a light two inches of powder. It's not going unnoticed elsewhere in the internet how it's two non-white armies being sent out to die so two nice white ladies can fight over who gets to be queen. The Dothraki in particular are getting the really lovely end of the stick. So did they just leave the wives and families back in Essos and go overseas to die in a war? Or did they take a massive civilian caravan along with them? If the former, they'd have to be pretty confident they're returning home at some point and who is looking after their family while they're gone? And they thought they were going to fight a war of conquest and glory, then end up fighting zombies? Nobody bothered to ask them how they felt about this mission creep at any point, almost like their opinion doesn't loving matter at all. Sure, the Unsullied you can get away with as they're just no-balled brainwashed killers with nothing else to do, but pretty sure the Dothraki might have some thoughts about not getting to kill and plunder at least for partially their own future benefit, but instead they're being marched off to a rough climate to fight literal dead people and not ONCE do they get to say “ you know, gently caress this”. Daenerys had a mini rebellion back in the day from some very loyal Dothraki after a short time in a desert. A desert with far fewer flesh-eating nightmare monsters. You know, all this stuff would have made more sense if it had been spread out over the last several seasons instead of being crammed into the final few episodes in a skip to the end. All that work to capture one (1) wight that lost them one of their dragons, and all to win over a woman who immediately said “lol, betray them” that they are now going to need to fight anyway. Luckily the Night King sat on his hands and did nothing for the time it took Euron to build an entire fleet of ships, sail it around Westeros, then sail it to and from Essos. Just imagine how much better if there was still some actual political intriguing happening while fighting the dead, and not just clearing the decks so the final season is “‘kill monster, kill evil queen, all live happily ever after”. Just seems a waste that, if you were going to have 8 seasons, that the Night King isn't south of the wall for at least 2 of them *while* everyone is still squabbling over the Iron Throne. I loved all the early political machinations and power struggles, and all the “zombies are coming” stuff, but they never managed to put it all together. Winterfell looks incredibly non-hosed up in the episode 4 preview too.
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Hay guys we have a castle with ramparts and trebuchets that are capable of flinging munitions over walls. I have perfect tactics, lets charge our light cavalry head first into the darkness against an enemy we literally cannot see, while we fire our siege weapons once. Also make sure 95% of our infantry are outside the walls and in the open, the enemy that outnumbers us over a hundred to one and cannot feel pain will really struggle against them! Oh no the enemy swept our men aside effortlessly and are now climbing the walls. Good thing we have one exhausted man every 5 feet up here! That'll keep us hella safe from the people that we've seen at least twice before use highly aggressive shock tactics. The night king deserved to win.
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Grouchio posted:https://www.gamespot.com/articles/game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-3-review-out-with/1100-6466520/ quote:Through all the twists and turns over the last eight seasons, Game of Thrones has never been straightforward--until now. Season 8 Episode 3, "The Long Night," brought one of Game of Thrones' main storylines to its conclusion. The battle with the dead is over, the Night King is defeated, and the forces of the living are victorious. And it happened in the least inventive, most predictable way imaginable.
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Gamespot posted:It's incredible to me that this episode was written by showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss, because it feels like it was written by somebody who's never seen the show before, much less has any understanding of the source material. Lol this was actually the most understandable and predictable part
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Apr 29, 2019 08:13
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But I'm sure dumb people will laud this episode as literally the best in the entire show.
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Fashionable Jorts posted:But I'm sure dumb people will laud this episode as literally the best in the entire show. Psyched that I have more ammo to poo poo on this whole universe with. Tomorrow ppl gonna be pissed with Peeler
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Apr 29, 2019 08:22
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lol, did they seriously kill the Night King like some dumb trash mob? This show is such pure garbage
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Apr 29, 2019 08:26
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I knew they had no balls, but I thought they'd come up with at least one surprise.
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Apr 29, 2019 08:29
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loving Arya killed the Night King?
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The only way this weekend could be any better is if they had killed Thanos by owning him into the negative zone with a 👌prank
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The Dennis System posted:loving Arya killed the Night King? Woah now she did an anime dash and jump and then dropped her knife into her other hand like john wick did that one time. 8 seasons of buildup to the battle of the night king was totally worth it.
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Remember how the many faced god included the red god, but didn't include death Remember trying to figure out what the red god wanted Where the gently caress did that question go lol Lost amid trying to figure out what the zombie dudes want
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Nice, even TVIV seems to be turning against this bad show now.
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I thought the episode was good. I went in wanting it to be good so I'm appreciating it. There should have been a few differences though: Sam should have died, they faked out on him not dying way too many times. Just end him laying in a pile. Unceremoniously killed in the mosh Beric should have died off camera after his scene in the hallway. Have the hound make some remark about him being a dumb bastard but in a brotherly way Tyrion should have opted to commit suicide in the crypt when sansa pulled the dagger. Off camera. Would have opened up a moment of weakness for dany in the next ep when both jorah and tyrion are gone. I guess it would give varys a purpose again. The 2nd dragon should have died. Greyworm should have died. Have a moment of mourning with his girlfriend next episode. Signalling both of Dany's armies were lost. Plus the dragon. Plus her two advisors. Bran needed to do something more. I don't know what exactly, but he needed to make one useful contribution. Even if it was just providing some kind of information on the battle that only he could know. Jaime can't die, but brienne should have been finished off in the mosh. Just have her be completely overwhelmed in the courtyard when the flood happens. Nothing too ceremonious. She had her moment. Maybe have wildling man have an emotional breakdown in the next episode to show a new side of him and provide a heartfelt personal sense of loss to the otherwise overwhelming slaughter. Jorah needed to die faster. They had too many scenes of him and Dany 2v30ing. Just one scene of that and then a short one at the moment of despair at the end have Jorah die less ceremoniously. I don't have too many issues with the arya thing. I liked that they contrasted her and friends running away in the halls. It was a necessary change of pace and having arya just be invincible is one dimensonial. The hound PTSD attack was good. Having arya be sneaky was good foreshadowing. The cheesy quotes could have been left out, but I guess they weren't so bad. The reality is the situation was completely gone and there was really no other way out. Arya finishing the night king with the dagger used to attempt bran's assassination is probably one of the better possible outcomes. You're all wrong about the opening charge. The moment of hope and empowerment being blotted out was extremely emotionally powerful for what kind of enemy they were facing. Methanar fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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This really isn't that surprising given how little thought this show has ever given to its thematic throughlines and how invested it is in scenes of people (feebly) verbally dunking on each other and loving. Not to say writing an interesting story about an army of evil doom is the easiest task in the world but after the previous episode it was pretty clear the show was itching to get back to scenes of two people walking into a room, saying lines, and leaving.
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They definitely spent too much time making things seem dire. Anyone watching would know the stakes. It was too drawn out. Too many scenes of people looking like they were about to die with nothing happening. Remove 15 mins of that and speed up the NK bit and it would have been immensely better with the same payoff but not the same problems.
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Methanar posted:You're all wrong about the opening charge. The moment of hope and empowerment being blotted out was extremely emotionally powerful for what kind of enemy they were facing. Nothing is powerful about that moment, it is not powerful for a bunch of no-name dopes who look like well-fed hollywood hipster bro's in $1000 beards and makeup suddenly charging with flaming swords that all match each other for no reason, that they just gained for no reason, being sacrificed in the dumbest cavalry charge possible. The fires immediately going out into the darkness gimmick does not save that.
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Apr 29, 2019 08:54
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Yeah I was stoked towards the beginning. The horror of the undead just overwhelming every horrible plan. Then odds just got too overwhelming to loving be resolved any other way.
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At least I can look forward to Sansa dying after her inevitable betrayal just so I can stop having to listen to all her new fans talking about her like she's Beyonce Einstein.
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Waltzing Along posted:They definitely spent too much time making things seem dire. Anyone watching would know the stakes. It was too drawn out. Too many scenes of people looking like they were about to die with nothing happening. Remove 15 mins of that and speed up the NK bit and it would have been immensely better with the same payoff but not the same problems. Actually the uncomfortable silence and fear build up at the very beginning was the best part. That was way more meaningful and emotion inducing than shaky cam fights.
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Nothing is powerful about that moment, it is not powerful for a bunch of no-name dopes who look like well-fed hollywood hipster bro's in $1000 beards and makeup suddenly charging with flaming swords that all match each other for no reason, that they just gained for no reason, being sacrificed in the dumbest cavalry charge possible. The fires immediately going out into the darkness gimmick does not save that. actually it does. it was to demonstrate the giant insane horde of psychos with no sense of self preservation that nobody wants anything to do with was instantly annihilated destroying the sense of hope they were given just moments sooner in the face of the unstoppable. The purpose was for the moral impact on the survivors.
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Methanar posted:Actually the uncomfortable silence and fear build up at the very beginning was the best part. That was way more meaningful and emotion inducing than shaky cam fights. I meant: Jamie is fighting and looks overwhelmed. Cut away. Sam looks like he is about to die. Cut away. and over and over and no one dies. It was repetitive and pointless filler that didn't add any suspense. The writers didn't trust that the viewers knew what was going on. That's the theme this year: show for stupid people who can't remember any thing past the last few seconds.
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Almost no words were uttered this entire episode, and those that were were just 1. Repetition of lines from the books, as callbacks 2. Random shouting of the obvious ("Protect the gate!" "Yes protect the gate!") (Jorah dying: "I'm hurt!") Is there a writer's strike that I don't know about or something Methanar posted:actually it does. it was to demonstrate the giant insane horde of psychos with no sense of self preservation that nobody wants anything to do with was instantly annihilated destroying the sense of hope they were given just moments sooner in the face of the unstoppable. I don't think you read what you're responding to
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