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On the "negative reviews on steam are useless or not" discussion. I look at reviews quite often as it is a source of information if I am doing a good job or not. And I can tell you some very interesting trends as of late in Steam Reviews. It is a lot more common for people to write negative reviews as things happen, as reactions to news, changes or as people called it memes (and the DLC avalanche incoming reviews are a meme). It doesn't necessarily have to do anything with the actual product in itself to spur the reviews to be written. A funny thing to notice is whenever Steam does a drive for reviews by rewarding badges or discounts etc we see a huge surge of positive reviews on our products. At least from what I've noticed, I haven't actually recorded day to day data on this so it's still anecdotal. I am not saying that negative reviews are useless, but I am saying the culture around specifically Steam reviews is fundamentally broken. Groogy fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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Fellblade posted:??? = because the game had a set release date, a set budget and other features were judged more important uses of those than adding that display. It's more like they released the alpha version of the game rather than the release version of the game and plan to just iterate until the game is good while selling dlc simultaneously in order to make more money for similar amounts of dev resources
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Groogy posted:On the "negative reviews on steam are useless or not" discussion. I look at reviews quite often as it is a source of information if I am doing a good job or not. And I can tell you some very interesting trends as of late in Steam Reviews. It is a lot more common for people to write negative reviews as things happen, as reactions to news, changes or as people called it memes (and the DLC avalanche incoming reviews are a meme). It doesn't necessarily have to do anything with the actual product in itself to spur the reviews to be written. A funny thing to notice is whenever Steam does a drive for reviews by rewarding badges or discounts etc we see a huge surge of positive reviews on our products. At least from what I've noticed, I haven't actually recorded day to day data on this so it's still anecdotal. No no no no buddy, you won't get away so easy. Your games are so bad that they took away my ability to feel human*, and I will expose you for the fraud company you are and make sure everybody on the internet knows it  But seriously, when one of the first reviews for Imperator Steam showed me was, and I quote almost literally, "I finished a game in 35 hours, UGH, why is it over so quickly - NOT RECOMMENDED" (and a few others of the same quality), I immediately ignored everything else because people are clearly insane. *for anyone not getting this, an important reminder: some weirdo on the Paradox forums posted:October 31st, 2012 is a day I will always remember. It was the day I became cynical, bitter, and distraught. You may call it an overreaction for me to feel this way simply because of the business practices of a single video game company, but let me explain what all of this means to me. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/casualisation-and-streamlining.647344/#post-14632431
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Imperator is pretty bad right out of the gate. I’ve messed around with it a bit and the UI is clunky and the pop system is incredibly binary. They went with the usual mana but it doesn’t have any interesting uses and just seem thrown in there because it was expected.
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Apr 29, 2019 09:34
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RabidWeasel posted:It's maybe scraping a 7/10 at the moment, the systems that are good (the map, trade, warfare and to a lesser extent province management) are really good but some of the gameplay problems are serious (like the AI is just abysmal at actually expanding so you only need to win like a half dozen major wars total in the whole game and you've 'won'), it's low on 'flavour' which is a big deal to a lot of people, and some of the new systems are extremely minimal in how much you actually need to interact with them. And the UI seems a bit awkward in places. This is basically where I'm at with it after binging it yesterday. There's a pretty decent core to the game that's being let down by some pretty baffling UI decisions and the AI in general seems pretty passive which I'm ok with for say, random tribe in the middle of nowhere but the big players like Rome and Carthage should probably be doing more. The issues feel a lot less structural than the Stellaris launch issues were. Also Oratory power in the early game and Civic power in the later game are both much more useful than Religious or Military power by orders of magnitude, I never had a problem with stability in my campaign because I was constantly floating 2000-3000 religious power I didn't have much use for beyond rendering stability meaningless. Archaeology Hat fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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Apr 29, 2019 09:50
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Baronjutter posted:Wow, Imperator already at "mixed" out the gate on Steam. Apparently the Chinese Steam page translation was dodgy to the point of being misleading which caused a bit of a backlash.
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Apr 29, 2019 09:57
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Apparently the Chinese Steam page translation was dodgy to the point of being misleading which caused a bit of a backlash. Deets?
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Cynic Jester posted:Deets? https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/special-content-for-chinese-is-so-appreciated.1171713/
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/special-content-for-chinese-is-so-appreciated.1171713/ Thanks.
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Called that Imperator would be worse than the Iron Age mod for Eu4 set in the same period. It'll get better than that in a couple years once it's brought up to par with the mainline titles in QoL features while fleshing out the actually unique poo poo that you can't do in Eu4
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Called that Imperator would be worse than the Iron Age mod for Eu4 set in the same period. It'll get better than that in a couple years once it's brought up to par with the mainline titles in QoL features while fleshing out the actually unique poo poo that you can't do in Eu4 Right now, Imperator is basically just an updated EU:Rome with their modern engine/UI. That's not entirely bad. I liked EU:Rome, but I'd like to see more that makes it distinguish itself, and right now, most of it is map painting. Epicurius fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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Apr 29, 2019 14:07
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Rome wasn't patched in a day.
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Apr 29, 2019 15:08
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But it sure was made in a day.
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Called that Imperator would be worse than the Iron Age mod for Eu4 set in the same period. It'll get better than that in a couple years once it's brought up to par with the mainline titles in QoL features while fleshing out the actually unique poo poo that you can't do in Eu4 Actually it’s better than it now hth
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TorakFade posted:No no no no buddy, you won't get away so easy. Your games are so bad that they took away my ability to feel human*, and I will expose you for the fraud company you are and make sure everybody on the internet knows it What in the flying gently caress is that thread? Why do these games make people so angry?
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Apr 29, 2019 15:57
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Minenfeld! posted:What in the flying gently caress is that thread? Why do these games make people so angry? Oh man, don't get me started on how they decorate their offices.
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Minenfeld! posted:What in the flying gently caress is that thread? Why do these games make people so angry? I really have no other words for you, except those from that same poster (in that same post, too): that same weirdo posted:"It was an expansion intended to completely disregard any historical accuracy, and instead shock the entire world with its lunacy. Paradox Interactive had gone off the deep end and raised the middle finger to everybody who stayed loyal to them." (edit: I just now noticed, that post has 6x "Agree" and 5x "Useful" reactions  )to be completely honest, I don't like Sunset Invasion either, but I just disable it and ignore the fact it exists rather than having the very existence of something that I'm not super excited about completely and utterly ruin my life. But I guess I'm the lunatic here, togheter with all of Paradox? Serious answer: because people, especially the kind attracted by Paradox grand strategy games, are SUPER SENSITIVE about "muh immersion", "country management is SERIOUS BUSINESS" and "the natural course of history" so putting fun but clearly fantasy/ahistorical stuff in the games is, to them, akin to throwing mentally disabled baby seals in a wood chipper while cackling maniacally TorakFade fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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Apr 29, 2019 16:36
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CK2 is the most fun Pdox game precisely because it went full 'screw history' and jumped straight off the deep end.
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Sunset Invasion is hilarious and also fun as it gives you some challenge to look forward at the time in the game you are almost certainly a huge unbeatable blob
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Apr 29, 2019 16:41
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I still want an alien invasion HOI4 DLC. Both because it'd own but also to piss off wehraboos and other people who take Paradox games way too seriously.
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Drone posted:I still want an alien invasion HOI4 DLC. Both because it'd own but also to piss off wehraboos and other people who take Paradox games way too seriously. have multiple alien invasions with the context entirely dependent on what your countries government is. If your a fascist country it's a galactic peacekeeping force here to stop multiple ongoing genocides.
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Apr 29, 2019 17:08
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Fuk
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Drone posted:I still want an alien invasion HOI4 DLC. Both because it'd own but also to piss off wehraboos and other people who take Paradox games way too seriously. so the alien spawn command from hoi2 back in?
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Minenfeld! posted:What in the flying gently caress is that thread? Why do these games make people so angry? Paradoxplaza has always been a very strange place. People have been predicting the downfall of the company since day one. Every single game that they have ever announced will have those kinds of people crawling out of the woodworks.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:so the alien spawn command from hoi2 back in? Yep.
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Drone posted:I still want an alien invasion HOI4 DLC. Both because it'd own but also to piss off wehraboos and other people who take Paradox games way too seriously. Wehraboos would love that because then they could brag about how their glorious Wehrmach was able to triumph over the alien invaders and save the world from the xeno menace.
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Dramicus posted:Wehraboos would love that because then they could brag about how their glorious Wehrmach was able to triumph over the alien invaders and save the world from the xeno menace. wehraboos will do something terrible regardless, no point in letting that take fun away from the rest of us
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I'm still sad this mod got abandoned sometimes https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1156789523
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Same but this mod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=723526573
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Agean90 posted:wehraboos will do something terrible regardless, no point in letting that take fun away from the rest of us for real, taking the stance of "if the wehraboos licked it that means its theres" will just lead to them licking everything
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I hate wehraboos licking things.
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Depends what it is really, doesn't it. I'm quite in favour of wheraboos licking dog poo poo, say.
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TorakFade posted:... akin to throwing mentally disabled baby seals in a wood chipper while cackling maniacally Wait... you are not supposed to do that?
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Whereaboos?
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Apr 30, 2019 14:49
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Same as a weeaboo except instead of loving anime they love anime hilter-chan.
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Monkey freaking cheese
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Groogy posted:(and the DLC avalanche incoming reviews are a meme). It doesn't necessarily have to do anything with the actual product in itself to spur the reviews to be written Nah, that one comes from a genuine place. If people assume the reason the game feels empty to them because paradox is deliberately doing so in order to leave stuff for DLCs, them being WRONG doesn't change that the game feels empty to them.
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Paradox doesn't hold back content so they can earn that sweet DLC money from you later. It just releases half-finished bare bones buggy games and banks on that sweet DLC money to "finish" it. It's a minor difference but important.
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Chomp8645 posted:Same as a weeaboo except instead of loving anime they love anime hilter-chan. And instead of "she's actually 6000 years old" it's the clean Wehrmacht myth.
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Chomp8645 posted:Same as a weeaboo except instead of loving anime they love anime hilter-chan. I'm very disappointed in you for missing the setup.
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