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Optimus_Rhyme
Apr 15, 2007

are you that mainframe hacker guy?

Luigi Thirty posted:

wework is ipoing

wework lost $1.8 billion last year on $1.9b revenue

SoftBank has poured over $10 billion into the furnace

Is that 1.8 include leasing buildings from the owner (also wework)

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bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
https://twitter.com/libbycwatson/status/1123060574760382465

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007




tune your adblocking properly and you don’t see the guilt tripping either. :angel:

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003

Midjack posted:

tune your adblocking properly and you don’t see the guilt tripping either. :angel:

poo poo, what setting am I missing?

also it is your moral imperative to block all ads and bypass all paywalls

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Also to pirate all media created by the deceased, Roseanne Carter fuckin Cash does not have the divine right to coast on music her daddy made fifty years ago.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

The thing you bought doesn't stop being yours even when the guy who sold it to you dies, not even if you are a record label

Steal things or don't, it's nobody's business how you rationalize it

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Nothing after 1930 is ever going to be public domain in America thanks to loving Disney, stealing media is your moral right.

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Nothing after 1930 is ever going to be public domain in America thanks to loving Disney, stealing media is your moral right.

there are pockets of intellectual freedom in some areas where artists usually don't enforce copyright. dnb comes to mind, or well there's the cliche free software, public libraries. it is pretty lame waiting 70 odd years though

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Known legislator Disney, singly repsonsible for signing into law the transfer of rights from the people to corporations

quote:

The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States

chemical ali: we have these guns to stop tyrants, there will be no tyranny in america

prince ali: rides an elephant across the frame right behind him, tossing out mickey mouse hats and stamping public domain into the dust

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Known legislator Disney, aka “Chuck Grassley”

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



flakeloaf posted:

Known legislator Disney, singly repsonsible for signing into law the transfer of rights from the people to corporations


chemical ali: we have these guns to stop tyrants, there will be no tyranny in america

prince ali: rides an elephant across the frame right behind him, tossing out mickey mouse hats and stamping public domain into the dust

aren't you Canadian?

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

there is no material thick enough to block the noise your culture makes from this distance

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

flakeloaf posted:

there is no material thick enough to block the noise your culture makes from this distance

weird, i thought your skull would have sufficed

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
all property is theft, i post from my personal computer, without a hint of irony

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

also, american media protection laws are a well-known low-key irritant here, and who doesn't like having a go at gun culture

it's two great tastes that taste great together


infernal machines posted:

all property is theft, i post from my personal computer, without a hint of irony


:same:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

flakeloaf posted:

Known legislator Disney, singly repsonsible for signing into law the transfer of rights from the people to corporations

lmao come to central florida some time if you don't believe disney is singlehandedly capable of shaping whatever laws it wants, local state or federal

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
yes, disney might literally have spent millions of dollars lobbying for copyright extension, but since they didn't pick up the pen and sign it themselves, really they had absolutely nothing to do with it don't you see?

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Chuck Grassley is jokingly called “The Senator from Disney” and sponsors legislation to extend copyright any time their characters threaten to become public domain, but I understand that being a haughty know-it-all about the US is important to Canadians since they have so little identity of their own, so you do you.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
the last copyright extension act, in 1998, was called the "mickey mouse protection act" for a reason

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



flakeloaf posted:

there is no material thick enough to block the noise your culture makes from this distance

but somehow you haven't heard that most laws here that are more complicated than renaming a post office are written by lobbyists because we almost exclusively elect morons and corporate sycophants (both in most cases)

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Shame Boy posted:

lmao come to central florida some time if you don't believe disney is singlehandedly capable of shaping whatever laws it wants, local state or federal

oh i don't doubt it one bit, people with power use it mainly to keep that power and get free poo poo; why wouldn't they do whatever the rat wants them to? it's not like elections work anyway

meanwhile in ontario, uneducated rural chuds and real estate developers decided they wanted to buy a government run by an angry ham with no sense of proportion, so now school funding is slashed, greenbelts and environmental regulations are optional, endangered species are for sale and oh yeah a couple hundred people's houses have a metre of water in their livingrooms because the "once in a century flood" is back for the second year in three but don't worry folks we're OOOOOPEN FOR BUSINESS

trust me we're making all the same mistakes you guys are, just more slowly with short breaks for winter

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
florida makes a ton of money off that mouse and they're gonna protect it as long as they can.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Munkeymon posted:

but somehow you haven't heard that most laws here that are more complicated than renaming a post office are written by lobbyists because we almost exclusively elect morons and corporate sycophants (both in most cases)

there was a great interview with a group that writes """"model legislation"""" after some study found that like, tons and tons and tons of it is passed verbatim without any words even being slightly changed, and they spent the entire interview going "well when we give them an already-written law to pass it's not like we want them to just pass what we give them verbatim or anything"

you sure about that buddy

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Chuck Grassley is jokingly called “The Senator from Disney” and sponsors legislation to extend copyright any time their characters threaten to become public domain, but I understand that being a haughty know-it-all about the US is important to Canadians since they have so little identity of their own, so you do you.

then you also know that whoever occupies his seat would do exactly the same things he does because you don't get into that position without money and the second he stops doing what disney tells him, they'll just elect someone else who does, and that is something even a mere canadian can understand

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Shame Boy posted:

there was a great interview with a group that writes """"model legislation"""" after some study found that like, tons and tons and tons of it is passed verbatim without any words even being slightly changed, and they spent the entire interview going "well when we give them an already-written law to pass it's not like we want them to just pass what we give them verbatim or anything"

you sure about that buddy

they’re supposed to change it enough so it doesn’t look like they copied!

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

flakeloaf posted:

then you also know that whoever occupies his seat would do exactly the same things he does because you don't get into that position without money and the second he stops doing what disney tells him, they'll just elect someone else who does, and that is something even a mere canadian can understand

yeah is just loving Disney! its not at all that they contribute a huge amount to the state in terms of employement and tax revenues, its just the loving corporations!!11

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


flakeloaf posted:

then you also know that whoever occupies his seat would do exactly the same things he does because you don't get into that position without money and the second he stops doing what disney tells him, they'll just elect someone else who does, and that is something even a mere canadian can understand


Shaggar posted:

yeah is just loving Disney! its not at all that they contribute a huge amount to the state in terms of employement and tax revenues, its just the loving corporations!!11

Chuck Grassley represents Iowa

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

all hail the job creators`

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Shaggar posted:

yeah is just loving Disney! its not at all that they contribute a huge amount to the state in terms of employement and tax revenues, its just the loving corporations!!11

lol we gently caress over our own population for disney's benefit alone all the time, this is florida after all

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Chuck Grassley represents Iowa

i was wondering when you were going to tell them :v:

everyone should know that florida's senators are marco rubio and bill nelson glorious skeleton leader rick scott

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

hm i'd just assumed, but if he's for sale then i don't suppose it matters where he sits

also why did I think rubio took his ball and went home after he tried to become president

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

haveblue posted:

the last copyright extension act, in 1998, was called the "mickey mouse protection act" for a reason

because people are too stupid to understand that trademark is what protects mickey not copyright, yes

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
and for that matter, people are too stupid to understand that it's always filthy European countries leading the way in copyright extension and use restrictions

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider
the last time that bill was discussed in yospos you also argued that Disney had nothing to do with it

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

fishmech posted:

and for that matter, people are too stupid to understand that it's always filthy European countries leading the way in copyright extension and use restrictions

i'm less concerned with who went first and more interested in whose laws are likeliest to directly affect me. it wasn't the europeans that our prime minister's office asked to call us terrible pirates so he could gift-wrap an unfair copyright law and hand it to his foreign-owned corporate dog-waggers

UnfurledSails
Sep 1, 2011

https://twitter.com/SerenaSonoma/status/1122988709618565120

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Nothing after 1930 is ever going to be public domain in America thanks to loving Disney, stealing media is your moral right.

in fact this year was the first time in over two decades that copyright limits weren't extended - jan 1st 2019 saw everything from 1923 enter the public domain

next year we get rhapsody in blue and in 2021 it's the great gatsby


2024 is steamboat willie and mickey mouse so we'll see when disney starts makin noise about that

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

Broken Machine posted:

there are pockets of intellectual freedom in some areas where artists usually don't enforce copyright. dnb comes to mind,
this is why streaming services have such anemic dnb selections, some big gaps in 90s rap also

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

2024 is steamboat willie and mickey mouse so we'll see when disney starts makin noise about that

steam boat willie is possibly already in the public domain because disney (the guy) hosed up how he did the copyright and it's not valid, and disney (the company) hasn't actually stood up to that in court at all because they know they'd lose and make it official

also fishmech is Technically Correct, mickey mouse is a trademark so that will never be useable by anyone but disney, however all the things mickey mouse is in (and all the other stuff disney made during his ~golden years~) are still capable of entering the public domain and boy will they ever fight tooth and nail to prevent that just so they can keep cranking out special editions from the disney vault or w/e

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H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
oh yeah they'll certainly argue that mickey is their trademark

iirc they hafta prove that he's been in use since then as their mascot in creative works or something. i wonder if they'll put out a mickey movie between now and then to strengthen their case


also 2022 gets the first winnie the pooh book

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