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Lollerich
Mar 25, 2004

The little doctors are back,
they want to play with you!

Nakar posted:

I think it requires a specific interaction prompt which only the fumigator has. Previously, you couldn't use emetic in the fumigator, and they changed it so that you can, so these things can be adjusted, but probably have to be specifically adjusted on a case-by-case basis.

Lethally poisoning the Bangkok lobby would be an utter disaster though, it'd never be useful in a contract. Emetic poisoning the entire lobby, however... that could be absolute gold.

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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
Nakar, just imagine a contract where you have to lethally poison specific people via the bangkok fumigator...and leave everyone else intact!

where the red fern gropes
Aug 24, 2011


wonder if it's possible to fumigate, neck snap the people you need, and exit before anybody finds the bodies

there's an idea for the monthly theme

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007


Ah, I think I confused it with the circulation system in New Zealand, since you can do it there.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

HALLELUJAH!

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Jack Trades posted:

HALLELUJAH!



Talk to me as if I was a Hitman noob. What is the difference with the current system? Points 2 and 5?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

That loving rules. At last.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Turin Turambar posted:

Talk to me as if I was a Hitman noob. What is the difference with the current system? Points 2 and 5?

I think the rules are exactly the same.
The actual change is having an SA Tracker which is something fans were asking for since back when the first game came out.

UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


What is Suspicious state? When they start trying to ID you?

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

UnknownMercenary posted:

What is Suspicious state? When they start trying to ID you?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's when they start going "hey buddy, who are you? I've never seen you before" but they haven't actually started yelling about you being an impostor yet.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

quote:

Ghost Rules
We’ve fixed a typographic error in the Ghost Mode Rules where we mistakenly wrote ‘loose’ instead of ‘lose’. Thanks to the hundreds of players that have told us about this error, we won’t make it again.

Ghost SFX
We’ve added new sound effects to the Ghost Mode results screen, depending on whether you win or loose.


Okay, I laughed

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy

Jack Trades posted:

I think the rules are exactly the same.
The actual change is having an SA Tracker which is something fans were asking for since back when the first game came out.
As I'm reading it, they've fixed being escorted out of trespassing areas not counting against you and now you get a pass for anything the target sees whereas currently it's just a pass if they spot you, not if they spot a body or whatever. I'm hoping this fixes the bug where you lose the "no bodies found" points for no reason because my working theory is that's a target somehow spotting their own body.

Obviously we'll get a full breakdown of all the implications of these changes once Nakar arrives. :v:

Pyromancer
Apr 29, 2011

This man must look upon the fire, smell of it, warm his hands by it, stare into its heart

Turin Turambar posted:

Talk to me as if I was a Hitman noob. What is the difference with the current system? Points 2 and 5?

Suspicious NPC(if you hide while NPC tries to investigate) and trespassing(if you get escorted out) didn't void silent assassin. So you could poison food in full view of everyone as long as no guards saw you, sprint away and hide.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Pyromancer posted:

Suspicious NPC(if you hide while NPC tries to investigate) and trespassing(if you get escorted out) didn't void silent assassin. So you could poison food in full view of everyone as long as no guards saw you, sprint away and hide.

I would hope they give you a little leeway with the trespassing condition. In the game the escort system (instead of being detected as illegal action immediately) is useful because in some locations isn't clear what areas are forbidden until you are inside them.

Nakar
Sep 2, 2002

Ultima Ratio Regum
It's the same as it was before they started screwing around with it, but now most things that targets do or see don't count if you kill them before they can tell anybody else. Straightforward, really.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

They just announced a starter version of Hitman 2 for 15bux (whatever) but also they're going to re-run Sean Beans ET from May 3rd to June 3rd if anyone missed it.

https://www.ioi.dk/hitman-2-miami-pack/

where the red fern gropes
Aug 24, 2011


Nakar posted:

It's the same as it was before they started screwing around with it, but now most things that targets do or see don't count if you kill them before they can tell anybody else. Straightforward, really.

idea: contracts mode, guard as a target: if they spot you trespassing and escort you out, and you walk past a bunch of people who can't see you because you're being escorted, will you retain SA after you kill them?

repiv posted:

They just announced a starter version of Hitman 2 for 15bux (whatever) but also they're going to re-run Sean Beans ET from May 3rd to June 3rd if anyone missed it.

https://www.ioi.dk/hitman-2-miami-pack/

i think it's a new sean bean ET

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

Oh yeah, the reward is the flashbang robot this time instead of the explosive pen. It looks like the actual mission is the same but we'll get a second chance to play it for a different unlock.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp
I'm gonna murder him with the explosive pen this time lol

where the red fern gropes
Aug 24, 2011


santa fortuna is so bad for ghost mode holy poo poo, it wasn't a good map to start with but now i have to navigate it? gross

targets spawn so far away sometimes it's faster to die

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Dr Cheeto posted:

I'm gonna murder him with the explosive pen this time lol

TIME PARADOX

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

You could do that the first time, all three of the vote items were implemented from the start and hidden around The Undyings variant of Miami :ssh:

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp

repiv posted:

You could do that the first time, all three of the vote items were implemented from the start and hidden around The Undyings variant of Miami :ssh:

I knew about the robot in the garage, where's the other things

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

The pen is on the top floor, in the room next to Knox's office IIRC. I forgot where the headphones are.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

Dr Cheeto posted:

I knew about the robot in the garage, where's the other things

Upper floor but I can't remember where exactly. I think either in the supply room next to the satellite dish or near the large group of scientists near the AC control

double nine fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Apr 30, 2019

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Okay, lord, a hundred kills in Ghost Mode to get the new suit? I'm gonna have to play a buttload of it...

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

I'm going to throw a different duck to instantly murder him this time :v:

Pennfalath
Sep 10, 2011

Why are these teenagers not at home studying their Latin vocabulary?
Yeah, not doing SA this time I think.

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

My winter suit is already done so if we actually do get to replay this I'm strongly considering killing him during that meeting where he sits on the table really close to 47 in first person

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
I got him with the pen to the eye the first time, think I'll try the robot scan ID thing this time. Curious that they'd recycle him again this early though, I was hoping for a Mumbai ET to get the best non-Marrakesh suit in the game :argh:

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

Wolfsheim posted:

I got him with the pen to the eye the first time, think I'll try the robot scan ID thing this time. Curious that they'd recycle him again this early though, I was hoping for a Mumbai ET to get the best non-Marrakesh suit in the game :argh:

the may roadmap isnt actually posted so they could theoretically have another new ET that month, since we got a recycled one in April.

and I think people were clamoring for repeat appearances of The Undying as a very on-brand move for Sean Bean anyway.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

I wonder if doing SA on Sean Bean the second time will count or not for the unlocks.

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

Jack Trades posted:

I wonder if doing SA on Sean Bean the second time will count or not for the unlocks.

It sounds like the contract is called "The Undying Returns" so it might be a completely new one for those purposes.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

there is also the undying suit you unlock after 13 ETs, which I'm hoping means we'll see a continuation of the storyline, i.e. "47, you won't believe who we discovered having tea in Mumbai"

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Diana, with barely-concealed fury: 47. Mark Faba has been spotted in Hokkaido. Again.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Mark Faba 47, the 47's clone of the ultimate assassination target.

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

Jack Trades posted:

HALLELUJAH!



My entire face literally just brightened and I sat straight up in my hair, holding my hands up as if in praise to the heavens upon getting to the good point in that new scoring list.

edit: Seriously, did I misread this? Is there now 0 score penalty for killing non-targets, even if it clearly voids your SA rating?

Because there are some maps where I'd really like to kill a lot of non-targets and still get some points for it.

Aoi fucked around with this message at 02:54 on May 1, 2019

Lollerich
Mar 25, 2004

The little doctors are back,
they want to play with you!
No, your non-target kill penalty has to be 0. As in you can't kill non targets, just as before.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
If those rules are accurate I can absolutely 100% guarantee I'm going to fail more elusive targets and hate it more, because I'm pretty sure I've managed to pull SAs out of my rear end after "compromised" and "suspicious" and enjoyed it immensely.

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
If it is the same ET again, you won't get to play it again. You've never been able to play the rerun ETs if you already did them.

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