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kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

King Vidiot posted:

I mean Valve claims they're "just a storefront" but what they are, and what they're comfortable being, is an OS for games. They even have a loving "big picture mode" so you don't even have to pretend your PC is for anything but accessing Steam. If they're an OS they can just act like "well, whatever people do is their own business" while taking in every nickel from every game sale because every single game is on Steam.

Nothing can be done short of changing the law or the entire system to not allow anything like Steam (or Amazon or any of these other total monopolies masquerading as free and open markets) to happen again.

How quickly we forget SteamOS.

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OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe

The Cheshire Cat posted:

Yeah this is why there have been games showing up in people's queues with the explanation "We don't have enough data on this game yet to categorize it correctly so into the general pool it goes".

They added a space for people to list objectionable content on their gamea' store page. How hard would it be to add a check box of "Does your game have pornographic content?" to add it to a separate porn only pool? Ideally, there would be a way to flag porn games on the general pool to get them flagged for review and booted if its found to be pornographic, but thay would involve Valve employees to do something other than making hats and gun skins, so that won't happen.

Forsythia
Jan 28, 2007

You want bad advice?

Anything is okay if you don't get caught!

... I hope this helps!

OutOfPrint posted:

but that would involve Valve employees to do something other than making hats and gun skins, so that won't happen.
Aren't the TF2 hats outsourced? (And the artists given a tiny cut of the profits?)

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

kirbysuperstar posted:

How quickly we forget SteamOS.

:stare: Yes, yes we did forget about SteamOS.

Steam is, in the very literal sense, an OS.

Deadguy2322
Dec 16, 2017

Greatness Awaits

kirbysuperstar posted:

How quickly we forget SteamOS.

Not as quickly as Valve did!

Thuryl
Mar 14, 2007

My postillion has been struck by lightning.

OutOfPrint posted:

They added a space for people to list objectionable content on their gamea' store page. How hard would it be to add a check box of "Does your game have pornographic content?" to add it to a separate porn only pool? Ideally, there would be a way to flag porn games on the general pool to get them flagged for review and booted if its found to be pornographic, but thay would involve Valve employees to do something other than making hats and gun skins, so that won't happen.

That checkbox already exists; it's up to the publisher to flag their game as adults-only. The problem is that some publishers don't answer honestly and sometimes Valve doesn't notice. One trick I've heard of devs pulling is to mark their game as adults-only when the game initially goes through Valve's content review, and then unmark it after the game passes review but before it's released, because for some reason they can do that without it triggering a re-review.

(edit: I should add that this is something you'll only see from fly-by-night publishers whose business model is releasing a new $2 game every week, because if you actually care about sales from your back catalogue it's not worth the risk of getting banned if Valve catches on to what you're doing. Unfortunately, the Steam store isn't exactly free of fly-by-night publishers.)

Thuryl fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Apr 28, 2019

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Mizuti posted:

Aren't the TF2 hats outsourced? (And the artists given a tiny cut of the profits?)

the hats and csgo skins are yeah, along with dota 2 cosmetics

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben


Oh, this looks like it might be something cute...



...never mind.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Zanzibar Ham posted:

Yeaaaaaah... eventually... (VERY NSFW)

loving lmao

The Skeleton King
Jul 16, 2011

Right now undead are at the top of my shit list. Undead are complete fuckers. Those geists are fuckers. Necromancers are fuckers. Necrosavants are big time fuckers. Skeletons aren't too bad except when they bleed everyone in the company. Zombos are at least not too bad.


I don’t even look at the steam store anymore unless I have something specific I’m looking for. If I want a new game I ask around and do some research, because I know I’m not going to get anything worthwhile from browsing the store.

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer
The last game I bought because steam recommended it was Va-11 Hall-A and I regretted it so I'm not doing that again.

Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!

Hmmm let's see. Voyeurism, possibly underage, and it makes references to the dumbest crypto in existence?

Yes! It's a Terrible Awful Game!

Aerofallosov
Oct 3, 2007

Friend to Fishes. Just keep swimming.

Don Gato posted:

The last game I bought because steam recommended it was Va-11 Hall-A and I regretted it so I'm not doing that again.

That's a shame, it came recommended to me. Guess it worked out that I didn't grab it. What was the game like?

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Aerofallosov posted:

That's a shame, it came recommended to me. Guess it worked out that I didn't grab it. What was the game like?

it's a visual novel with one scene, barely any plot, and some of the lamest characters possible

and then on top of all that there's child sex robots

Hwurmp fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Apr 30, 2019

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
What if Cthulhu were sexy?

e:

Oh, it's a sequel to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKVmlp07ymE

Apparently, Agony doesn't have the market cornered on lovely horror games where the monsters have tits anymore!

Dark_Swordmaster fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Apr 30, 2019

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Lowtax streamed it so you know its the good poo poo

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

Apparently, Agony doesn't have the market cornered on lovely horror games where the monsters have tits anymore!

It never did.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Agony is amusing because, putting aside the lovely gameplay, it really doesn't deliver on the horrifying visuals, primarily because it's a bit too horny. If you look at the community screenshots on steam, there's a little bit of body horror and some old man dong, but just about every female character model looks like a poser model with perky, flawless tits.

OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe
I think there is room for erotic horror in video games. The sticking point is that it needs to be essentially flawless to work at all. Adding eroticism makes any flaws in the horror, like an over reliance on jump scares and schlock violence and gore, look like a bad 70's horror movie. Likewise, adding juvenile eroticism, like floppy demon dongs and every titty looking like something a Beverly Hills doctor made to finance a mid-life crisis mobile, starts funny and gets tedious really fast, and nothing kills horror as effectively as being boring.

The easy way to well done erotic horror is body horror plus sex, but I think going for a sense of slow-burning creeping dread would be ideal. Gradually steeping the player into deeper and darker horror and eroticism would work a hell of a lot better than, "Watch out, those titties have a knife!"

So, tl;dr, video games made by manchildren can never pull it off, because they think the idea of "pulling off" would be great for their horror game.

Quicksilver6
Mar 21, 2008



Terrible awful games: “Watch out, those titties have a knife!”

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

OutOfPrint posted:

I think there is room for erotic horror in video games. The sticking point is that it needs to be essentially flawless to work at all. Adding eroticism makes any flaws in the horror, like an over reliance on jump scares and schlock violence and gore, look like a bad 70's horror movie. Likewise, adding juvenile eroticism, like floppy demon dongs and every titty looking like something a Beverly Hills doctor made to finance a mid-life crisis mobile, starts funny and gets tedious really fast, and nothing kills horror as effectively as being boring.

The easy way to well done erotic horror is body horror plus sex, but I think going for a sense of slow-burning creeping dread would be ideal. Gradually steeping the player into deeper and darker horror and eroticism would work a hell of a lot better than, "Watch out, those titties have a knife!"

So, tl;dr, video games made by manchildren can never pull it off, because they think the idea of "pulling off" would be great for their horror game.

Well, "things that are sexy" and "things that are scary" are like the two most common things for people to totally disagree on. Personally, I think this is why it's hard to have good sexy videgames, for the same reason it's hard to have a widely accepted sexy book or whatever: something that is exactly one person's cup of tea is going to leave a significant portion of the population in the dust. And not just people with specific fetishes, just the tone can make a big difference as to whether person A or B finds it sexy or not. Is it frantic and wild? Slow and subtle? And the same things regarding tone and concept hold just as true for horror; how many times have you been totally creeped out by something, but someone close to you is like "wow how lame is this garbage?"

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
I mean, one of the stretch goals achieved was "interactive sex scenes" so it's already well past that point. The uncensored trailer also features some orgy stuff that would fit in with most of the VR doll games in this thread.


So, outside of here, has eroticism and horror ever been mixed successfully with it actually being horror, not soft porn? Because Species is soft porn.

OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe

John Lee posted:

Well, "things that are sexy" and "things that are scary" are like the two most common things for people to totally disagree on. Personally, I think this is why it's hard to have good sexy videgames, for the same reason it's hard to have a widely accepted sexy book or whatever: something that is exactly one person's cup of tea is going to leave a significant portion of the population in the dust. And not just people with specific fetishes, just the tone can make a big difference as to whether person A or B finds it sexy or not. Is it frantic and wild? Slow and subtle? And the same things regarding tone and concept hold just as true for horror; how many times have you been totally creeped out by something, but someone close to you is like "wow how lame is this garbage?"

This is a great point. Erotic horror has two needles to thread, and it's near impossible to do both. If you make a game with a sex scene and BAM your partner turns into a horrific demon, some people will react with fear, others with humor, and others will only get hornier. An erotic horror game needing to land its mark twice on the same player to be effective.

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

So, outside of here, has eroticism and horror ever been mixed successfully with it actually being horror, not soft porn? Because Species is soft porn.

Black Swan EDIT: and, for some 80's representation, From Beyond and That Scene in Re-Animator.

OutOfPrint fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Apr 30, 2019

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

I mean, one of the stretch goals achieved was "interactive sex scenes" so it's already well past that point. The uncensored trailer also features some orgy stuff that would fit in with most of the VR doll games in this thread.


So, outside of here, has eroticism and horror ever been mixed successfully with it actually being horror, not soft porn? Because Species is soft porn.

The career of Clive Barker would like a word.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
I've only read his children's book, played Undying, and watched the first Hellraiser. I do not know the sexy Clive Barker.

Slowflake
Aug 18, 2010

Periniumbra: Boner Chair

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

I've only read his children's book, played Undying, and watched the first Hellraiser. I do not know the sexy Clive Barker.

I mean, there's a reason the cenobite outfits are half religious garb, half fetish gear. Not to mention that their entire thing is pleasure taken to the furthest aspects of pain. It's not his most blatant, but it's also not subtle.

Drakenel
Dec 2, 2008

The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.

catlord posted:

I mean, there's a reason the cenobite outfits are half religious garb, half fetish gear. Not to mention that their entire thing is pleasure taken to the furthest aspects of pain. It's not his most blatant, but it's also not subtle.

The dude manages to stay in the old building cause he jacks off right in the opening scene into the hardwood floor. (If you're reading the story, anyway. The movie just veered left and went 'uh no it was blood')

Dareon
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Rollersnake posted:



Oh, this looks like it might be something cute...



...never mind.

That looks like a sequel, and the description is entirely unchanged. I'd expect only minimal graphical updates, maybe a few more obstacles and enemies. Possibly some new memey costumes.

...Yes, I bought the first one. I even mentioned it here. It's cute, even with the schoolgirl thing. They don't make a big deal out of any of the features listed, it's just a simple, sedate game. You could do worse for a buck.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



lol

Dareon
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
Seems like every time a game comes up here someone pops up and goes "Well :actually: this is not the poop on a stick you think it is." I guess it was my turn. :v:

resistentialism
Aug 13, 2007

you could just have a buck

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
we regret to inform you that video game corgi is a pervert

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben
Montaro is one of the top games that shows up if you browse games with the Dog tag. I'd expect to see poo poo like that show up if I was browsing Sexual Content or something, but it caught me completely off-guard.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Dareon posted:

That looks like a sequel, and the description is entirely unchanged. I'd expect only minimal graphical updates, maybe a few more obstacles and enemies. Possibly some new memey costumes.

...Yes, I bought the first one. I even mentioned it here. It's cute, even with the schoolgirl thing. They don't make a big deal out of any of the features listed, it's just a simple, sedate game. You could do worse for a buck.

just a simple, sedate game where you look up the skirts of children, just a normal fun time for all, a fun exciting game about being a sex offender dog

Jamfrost
Jul 20, 2013

I'm too busy thinkin' about my baby. Oh I ain't got time for nothin' else.
Slime TrainerS
Well, here's a curated batch of games. I only had to go through the queue 9 or 13 times.

What in the world?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1050660/Noodle_Jump/

Action-packed action.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1052670/Trainspotting_Simulator/

Read the description.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1066160/Captain_Fly_and_Sexy_Girls_at_the_Night_Club/

Wow.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1050700/Breaking_Bunny/

The trailer for this one.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1012600/Why_Chicken_Why/

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002


I really, really want this one to stealthily be a game about using heroin that you only discover if you buy the game, Frog Fractions 2 style.

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

I've only read his children's book, played Undying, and watched the first Hellraiser. I do not know the sexy Clive Barker.

Hellraiser is a horror about not being as into bondage as the pope of hell thinks you are.

OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe

Jamfrost posted:

Well, here's a curated batch of games. I only had to go through the queue 9 or 13 times.

What in the world?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1050660/Noodle_Jump/

Credit where credit's due, there's a definite statement being made by this one. I don't know what it is, but it's definitely something.

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SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
熱くなれ夢みた明日を
必ずいつかつかまえる
走り出せ振り向くことなく
&



I was expecting something else.

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