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MonsterEnvy posted:It's time for that good old Shirobako pay chart Wait so...wait. What? Only at the director’s level is anyone making a living wage??????? 
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Puts things in perspective when I earn more than a chief animator and I'm just a lowly tech tester.
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Should be noted that there's more than just chief animators and animators. Key animators are paid by the drawing so they can earn more the more they draw, generally take in $25k~ a year. The animators that check the inbetween drawings and fix them generally get paid around the same. It's the inbetween animators that fill in the keys that are paid pennies. edit: either paid by the drawing or by the cut it's been a long time since I looked into it. Guyver fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Apr 25, 2019 |
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Nanigans posted:Wait so...wait. I think some living expenses in Japan are a bit cheaper then over here.
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Apr 25, 2019 18:58
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If I learned enough Japanese I'm sure I'd make a drat good voice actor 
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Would you be the guy using the standard "hmmm, I am evil and cold so I shall draw out every sentence" voice or the "I am constantly shocked and so half my dialogue is surprised grunts or stuttered lines"? The cadence of the former reminds me of Shatner's intonations and the latter is like an unholy hybrid if Shia LaBeouf and Michael Cera.
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ok but what about voice talent below the A-list. how much per year are the people making lewd noises pulling in?
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bacon flaps posted:ok but what about voice talent below the A-list. how much per year are the people making lewd noises pulling in? Deepweb Underground is a Virtual Youtuber that frequently talks about her experiences starting with the porn industry. Some of her episodes are subtitled and go to weird places, like interviewing a guy that got arrested for trying to join ISIS.
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Well, I'm enjoying the anime. Everyone's right and things are clearly not great, but I'm not sure I'd've actually noticed a lot of it if people hadn't pointed it out. Honestly, even after it's pointed out, I still struggle to see it sometimes. I guess that's the power of the corner-cutting techniques being applied. That said, I find the pacing unfortunate, but understandable. There's no build-up. It's been forever since we've seen King or Fubuki, so when they show up and get dealt with, or whatever you want to call it, it feels pretty anticlimactic imo. Maybe that's just me though.
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Nanigans posted:Wait so...wait. Reminder that Japan's economy has been broken for decades now, and that we're not that far behind them.
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MonsterEnvy posted:It's time for that good old Shirobako pay chart This is why unionization is good.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/bhnrau/no_spoilers_hosoyaproducer_of_opm_s2_allegedly/quote:Hosoya,producer of OPM S2 allegedly removed from various anime production teams due to disrespectfulness toward ONE and their other work, Mob Psycho. Murata: "arrogance came from the bias of knowledge."
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If anyone can explain "arrogance came from the bias of knowledge" i would appreciate it.
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Imagine being such a moron that you don't love Mob Psycho to death.
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No Wave posted:If anyone can explain "arrogance came from the bias of knowledge" i would appreciate it. It sounds like a line from a '05 Naruto fansub.
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Sounds like a sloppy translation of "producer thinks he knows better than the creator and the showrunner and was throwing his weight around pissing off everyone actually working on the project."
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skaianDestiny posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/bhnrau/no_spoilers_hosoyaproducer_of_opm_s2_allegedly/ quote:Talked poo poo about Mob Psycho 100 during a OPM production meeting because apparently he didn't know ONE created both. Murata was present. (anons are saying this is like making GBS threads on Saitama in front of Genos xD) Was immediately removed from OPM production. He wasn't doing much on OPM prior to this, would use "I'm too busy" as excuse to let others handle most of his work fuckin lol
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Apr 26, 2019 19:11
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I found a picture of him
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I love that anon description. Perfectly describes Muratas rage. You done hosed up taking poo poo about Mob Pyscho
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This season has no punch, man.
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Hellsau posted:fuckin lol oof
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It occurs to me the a Japanese worker accused of being lazy is maybe the only sane one in the room. Badmouthing MP100 is unforgivable, though.
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That’s the same producer that TV Tokyo had to issue an apology for because he kept making fun of fans of Kemono Friends 1 and Tatsuki on Twitter. What a swell guy.
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It sounds like he's somebody's kid.
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El Burbo posted:That’s the same producer that TV Tokyo had to issue an apology for because he kept making fun of fans of Kemono Friends 1 and Tatsuki on Twitter. What a swell guy. Man, this guy just manages to turn everything he touches into poo poo, doesn't he? What an idiot.
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a kitten posted:I found a picture of him lmao 
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Schwarzwald posted:It sounds like he's somebody's kid. He is. His dad or uncle or some poo poo is like a lead executive of a TV network.
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More follow up on the Madhouse thing https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/1123294017024929798?s=19 quote:“I’ve quit working at a studio not with just unpaid overtime pay, but with about 100,000 yen of my regular wages unpaid. There were also several cases of pushing a ton of work on newcomers until they completely burn out, and then suddenly firing them with no say in the matter… At the first studio I worked at, I hear there was a case of suicide before I joined. That studio used time cards that went up to 500 hours. We were told to choose between getting punched or kicked, and there were actually people who sustained injuries from being hit or strangled. I can only hope that things can improve as soon as possible.” Eej fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Apr 30, 2019 |
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Eej posted:More follow up on the Madhouse thing I will admit, I'm not sure if I should feel guilty consuming anime being that the people involved are working in practically sweatshop conditions.
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Eej posted:We were told to choose between getting punched or kicked, and there were actually people who sustained injuries from being hit or strangled. I can only hope that things can improve as soon as possible.” 
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Didn't see this in the thread, but Murata drew some Pokemon stuff.
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Mraagvpeine posted:Didn't see this in the thread, but Murata drew some Pokemon stuff. Bigger fan of this than the look of most of them in the Detective Pikachu trailers.
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Eej posted:More follow up on the Madhouse thing 
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punk rebel ecks posted:I will admit, I'm not sure if I should feel guilty consuming anime being that the people involved are working in practically sweatshop conditions. It's not just animation; it's basically all media. Video games are rife with this poo poo. VFX studios too, since they're one of the big Hollywood labor blocks that aren't unionized. Be honest about the cost, push back when you hear people trying to downplay how bad things are, and support efforts to improve conditions where you can. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 00:40 on May 1, 2019 |
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Skippy McPants posted:It's not just animation; it's basically all capitalism. It really sucks. I know I don't pay for as many things as I should. The strange thing is that many, many people still really dream about and work hard towards getting into this field despite how awful it is. "Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life" they say. 
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Capitalism bad, but I do think there's a particularly virulent strain at work in competitive fields with a high degree of personal passion. Too many people willing to work themselves half to death and when they inevitably turn into dried up husks there are countless others clamoring to take their place.
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Season 2 episode 4: boy I am not looking forward to how they ruin the Metal Bat versus Garou fight. Elder Centipede being cg/cel shaded is tolerable, but Bat's fight against the two idiots outside the shop was just all blur and no backgrounds.
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Mraagvpeine posted:Didn't see this in the thread, but Murata drew some Pokemon stuff. It's just amazing how he's kind of the master of all styles. He can draw Pokémon just like Sugimori does, Dragon Ball just like Toriyama does, JoJo like Araki and hot girls like Pornhub. And it's not like, so close it looks like he's copied panels quite well like you see on "fanart" reddits/sites and poo poo, just "this is actually just like they drew it themselves" good.
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Just watched the newest anime episode, and I don't remember the last scene with the interaction between Saitama and Garou in the manga. I thought they don't meet until the middle of the big fight.Skippy McPants posted:It's not just animation; it's basically all media. Video games are rife with this poo poo. VFX studios too, since they're one of the big Hollywood labor blocks that aren't unionized. Do you mean VFX studios in general (including American) or just Japan?
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punk rebel ecks posted:Just watched the newest anime episode, and I don't remember the last scene with the interaction between Saitama and Garou in the manga. I thought they don't meet until the middle of the big fight. Naw they keep stumbling onto each other without realizing it. It was kind of a running gag.
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