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Sinteres posted:Castro too. Failed coups span the political spectrum. What the
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Apr 30, 2019 20:59
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Stairmaster posted:show of hands who here thinks eliott abrams should burn in hell ✋
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Apr 30, 2019 21:01
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I'm glad the thread has evolved to side A declaring side B are Nazis only for side B to indignantly declare that side A are the real Nazis.
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Apr 30, 2019 21:02
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:Literal nazi who writes for progressive jewish publications like Mondoweiss, please tell me more. My favorite progressive jewish websites are mondoweiss, stormfront, and 8chan. Don't be fooled by the fact that they love fascist dictators and jewdeath, they are all very progressive and jewish. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 30, 2019 21:11
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At what point do peaceful protesters stop being protesters and start being members of an active and ongoing coup attempt? Peaceful protests are renowned for their attacks on state assets during the middle of a very public coup attempt 
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Apr 30, 2019 21:16
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Chuck Boone posted:The Chilean Minister of Foreign Affairs says that Leopoldo Lopez, his wife and daughter are inside the Chilean embassy in Caracas Similarly, Brazil granted asylum to Venezuelan military defectors. https://twitter.com/folha/status/1123306283396927488?s=19
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Apr 30, 2019 21:17
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thatfatkid posted:At what point do peaceful protesters stop being protesters and start being members of an active and ongoing coup attempt? This means its fine to kill them, right? This is how you deal with riots?
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Apr 30, 2019 21:19
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For all the histrionics about the Agency of the United States marginalizing the agency of any opposed nation this coup attempt is pretty mild.
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Apr 30, 2019 21:20
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Apr 30, 2019 21:25
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:This means its fine to kill them, right? This is how you deal with riots? Did I say that? The crying about the deaths of "peaceful protesters" by many in this thread seems somewhat disingenuous when the people injured/killed were neither peaceful or protesters, but instead attacking state assets in the middle of an active coup attempt. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 30, 2019 21:26
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Thankfully if it is over we avoided mass murder and the resulting apologia for dictators that would follow by posters who applaud that sort of thing.
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Apr 30, 2019 21:28
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:This means its fine to kill them, right? This is how you deal with riots? No. It means that expecting there to be no casualties during a coup attempt and using that as a litnus test for the government in power is asinine. In the face of these kinds of events, there would be similar altercations literally in any country. It's not right. It's not good. It's entirely expected, and does not offer a good reason to support the coup.
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Apr 30, 2019 21:29
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Elias_Maluco posted:Seems like its basically over Well, at least for this lovely thread it settles the question of whether Guaido has attempted a coup or not. At least it happened with minimal bloodshed, but it seems that opposition is now 100% neutralized and Venezuela is likely to become a stable dictatorship under the PSUV. Rather tragic. Also very ghoulish for posters like thefafkid to think it is OK to murder someone for being in a crowd of people throwing Molotovs. Also massively inconsistent, unless you think it’s ok for police to use live ammo on antifa protestors or whoever.
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Apr 30, 2019 21:31
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Saladman posted:Well, at least for this lovely thread it settles the question of whether Guaido has attempted a coup or not. At least it happened with minimal bloodshed, but it seems that opposition is now 100% neutralized and Venezuela is likely to become a stable dictatorship under the PSUV. Rather tragic.
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Apr 30, 2019 21:32
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Saladman posted:Well, at least for this lovely thread it settles the question of whether Guaido has attempted a coup or not. At least it happened with minimal bloodshed, but it seems that opposition is now 100% neutralized and Venezuela is likely to become a stable dictatorship under the PSUV. Rather tragic. Kindly point out where I've approved of or advocated for murder. No need for blatant lies.
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Apr 30, 2019 21:35
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Seems like venezuelans living in venezuela decided with their own agency that the coup was bullshit.
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Apr 30, 2019 21:37
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:No. It means that expecting there to be no casualties during a coup attempt and using that as a litnus test for the government in power is asinine. In the face of these kinds of events, there would be similar altercations literally in any country. It's not right. It's not good. It's entirely expected, and does not offer a good reason to support the coup.
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Apr 30, 2019 21:37
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thatfatkid posted:Kindly point out where I've approved of or advocated for murder. No need for blatant lies. thatfatkid posted:Did I say that? you literally just used Blue lives matter lines to defend APCs running down protesters and people being gunned down.
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Apr 30, 2019 21:38
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Kawasaki Nun posted:For all the histrionics about the Agency of the United States marginalizing the agency of any opposed nation this coup attempt is pretty mild. It’s only a little light treason. Dapper_Swindler posted:you literally just used Blue lives matter lines to defend APCs running down protesters and people being gunned down. “Protestors” actively storming a military base. What do you think would happen if you stormed a military base in the US?
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Apr 30, 2019 21:39
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:It’s only a little light treason. Goddamn, how many alt accounts does the IDF spokesman have?
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Apr 30, 2019 21:42
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Dapper_Swindler posted:you literally just used Blue lives matter lines to defend APCs running down protesters and people being gunned down. No I didn't. It might help you and your pro coup ilk to actually read the posts you are responding to. Protesting and actively engaging in a coup are not comparable.
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:It’s only a little light treason. you'd cheer them on? thatfatkid posted:No I didn't. It might help you and your pro coup ilk to actually read the posts you are responding to. revolt against an undemocratic or tyrannical government is a constitutional right in venezuela 
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Apr 30, 2019 21:43
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GreyjoyBastard posted:you'd cheer them on? this. if there was some massive protest and they went onto a US base. you would cheer them on, but the second people rise up against maduro, they are all evil nazis who need to be killed in the street.
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Apr 30, 2019 21:45
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Apr 30, 2019 21:46
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Kawasaki Nun posted:For all the histrionics about the Agency of the United States marginalizing the agency of any opposed nation this coup attempt is pretty mild. This just speaks to how incompetent Trump and Bolton are. Turns out asking the Venezuelan people if they love Maduro is a very different thing from asking them if they want him replaced by a right-wing empire's puppet. Quelle surprise.
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Apr 30, 2019 21:49
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:It’s only a little light treason. Is your excuse for the military or police killing protesters is that other bad countries would also kill protesters?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:this. if there was some massive protest and they went onto a US base. you would cheer them on, but the second people rise up against maduro, they are all evil nazis who need to be killed in the street. The first example you give would be people fighting against an an evil global empire. The second example you give is people backed by and fighting for the interests of an evil global empire. Now why would someone approve of the first but not the second...
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thatfatkid posted:The second example you give is people backed by and fighting for the interests of an evil global empire. As someone who also opposed the coup, I think your reasoning here is a little specious. I think some of the people that did end up turning out today, did so in good faith, without consciously acting in the interest of an evil global empire. That doesn't mean they deserved to die, IMO. It's not Guaido or Lopez who suffered and died. Feel bad for the dupes, I say.
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Being rude to a journalist is truly the greatest crime committed today.
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Was sitting next to about 20 super excited Venezuelans in a bar and talking with them about events right now. On my way home, I decided to check what does the political elite of SA thinks of the situation. I regret my decision. I’m from the Czech Republic and having lived and participated in the events of 1989 here I think there’s nothing wrong with a demonstration that could bring down an illegitimate communist regime.
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Apr 30, 2019 22:18
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Apr 30, 2019 22:19
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zapplez posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1123333506346749952 please,,,, this is the Venezuela thread. do not erase the agency of the Venezuelan people by appealing to the power of the US
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Apr 30, 2019 22:23
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Don't use armored vehicles to run over civilians. But also Maduro probably didn't personally do that like he right-clicked it on a C&C satellite.
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Apr 30, 2019 22:25
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zapplez posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1123333506346749952 Ah, an embargo on Cuba - glad to see he's trying something new for a change. Just in case anyone had any doubts about Venezuela being one piece in a broader right-wing imperialist puzzle in Latin America, btw.
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machinegunmessiah posted:Was sitting next to about 20 super excited Venezuelans in a bar and talking with them about events right now. On my way home, I decided to check what does the political elite of SA thinks of the situation. Yeah, its actually really weird that in like 99% of threads on SA we are all about supporting poor people, but for some reason the fact the VZ government used to pretend to be socialists is like an invisibility cloak that some posters can't comprehend the government being both socialist and terribly hosed up and making things actively worse for poor people for years.
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