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MariusLecter posted:I doubt he gave that any thought. When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. Except that his brain is so broken from world-ending trauma that even with an infinitely-magic tool, all he can imagine is an infinitely-magic hammer. The movies never give you more than just enough information to understand that he's basically a deeply-traumatized religious zealot. Though I did start to think that his revised plan was basically the same as Ego's plot to remake the universe in second Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:If anyone wants to take a serious look at 'what if a huge number of people just disappeared one day?' definitely check out HBO's now-finished series, 'The Leftovers'. It's excellent and downright chilling at times. The Leftovers is interesting because it doesn't explain why 5% of the population disappears. It just happens. The focus of the series is the aftermath & what happens to society that's left to deal with it.
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Android Apocalypse posted:The Leftovers is interesting because it doesn't explain why 5% of the population disappears. It just happens. The focus of the series is the aftermath & what happens to society that's left to deal with it. Well, if we want to get into it, and put death of the author aside for a bit... Leftovers spoilers ahoy! Originally, Lindelof wanted to immediately show the other side of what happened, during the scene where the baby disappears from the mother's car. It would show the baby, crying alone, and no one is in the front seat (or around the car, either). Someone advised against it, and so that was built into Nora's explanation. However, there's enough doubt in both her story (she had reasons to lie), and also that quick moment just as she's about to be sent there where she starts to protest, that it leaves it open. But apparently, that whole scientific explanation that Mark Linn Baker and the scientists talked about is actually what it was, at least in Lindelof's head and original intent Then again, the author of the novel never gave out any sort of explanation, so  I do love that it's not official, though.
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May 1, 2019 15:26
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Olaf The Stout posted:Refresh me on the differences? In ME1 Sovereign says that the reaper sow technology to the races so they will develop around it and make technological advances with it. Then after thousands of years, before organics become too powerful, they come back to annihilate us and steal the improved technology back. It was about using organic creativity that they lacked to advance their technology since they were incapable of that sort of stuff. Sowed with technology and then reaped. Then later it became that we're all just dicks and need to die lest we kill each other. iirc
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May 1, 2019 16:44
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Cleretic posted:I just want to know what Thanos thinks about all the innocent people that died because half of the universe turned to dust. When you wipe out half the living beings in the universe a couple of planes and whatnot arent even a rounding error.
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May 1, 2019 17:40
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SiKboy posted:When you wipe out half the living beings in the universe a couple of planes and whatnot arent even a rounding error. But planets are spherical
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May 1, 2019 18:02
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Decrepus posted:In ME1 Sovereign says that the reaper sow technology to the races so they will develop around it and make technological advances with it. Then after thousands of years, before organics become too powerful, they come back to annihilate us and steal the improved technology back. It was about using organic creativity that they lacked to advance their technology since they were incapable of that sort of stuff. Sowed with technology and then reaped. Is that from some background or hidden information or from any books? None of the dialogue with sovereign in-game supports that... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX25HVtRvQY The reapers motivations have been consistent throughout the series. They seeded the mass effect relays and the citadel to dictate how society evolves on a galactic scale, but there is no mention in mass effect 1 of them caring at all about any technology those organics develop. Aphrodite posted:Thanos’ plan was to halve the universe then retire to his farm. No repetition. So his plan was stupid and he's just a psychopath, and anybody hero-worshipping thanos for "making hard choices" are the same people who say "the empire did nothing wrong" in star wars, and would support fascism and totalitarianism in real life, as long as they get to bootlick the oppressors. Olaf The Stout has a new favorite as of 18:24 on May 1, 2019 |
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May 1, 2019 18:20
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MariusLecter posted:I doubt he gave that any thought. Tying into this, it feeds into the whole idea that it's the fault of the beings he's erasing for him "having" to go to extreme measures like that. Like Cleretic pointed out, potentially a LOT more than half of all life would be wiped out, simply based on who dies & when. Oops, doctor got dusted mid-heart surgery? People died as a result of vehicles crashing haphazardly into each other? Not Thanos's fault, because in his mind if they had just listened & went along with his plan, everything would be okay (even though there's no way to predict the outcome of the snap). Dusting half the life in the universe arbitrarily means he feels like he's free from consequences after the fact, because he's hosed in the head.
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And also, most people don't know that's what he's doing, but he expects everyone to just get it and be immediately grateful. I mean there are more whales five years later, right?
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marshmallow creep posted:And also, most people don't know that's what he's doing, but he expects everyone to just get it and be immediately grateful. I'm not sure if the implication was as much "whales gently caress way more now" as it was "the Hudson is nowhere near as polluted now and whales are taking more territory because they can."
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May 1, 2019 18:47
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More whales, cleaner water, less humanity sounds like a definite win to me
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I'm pretty sure he killed 50% of the whales too.
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May 1, 2019 18:57
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oldpainless posted:More whales, cleaner water, less humanity sounds like a definite win to me I want to be mad at your misanthropy, but, really, fair enough
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May 1, 2019 18:57
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SiKboy posted:I'm pretty sure he killed 50% of the whales too. If there’s less whales how can there be more whales? Your argument is flawed.
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May 1, 2019 18:59
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SiKboy posted:I'm pretty sure he killed 50% of the whales too. And the whales would have a tough time recovering from that loss. Genetically they could be hosed. 4 years later the rat population was back to normal. Thanos' idea wasn't well thought out.
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May 1, 2019 18:59
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SiKboy posted:I'm pretty sure he killed 50% of the whales too. Did he take exactly half of every species or half of all life in aggregate? I mean he didn't take half of Hawkeye's family, so some species groups may have been over-reaped compared to their over all population. If the former, he definitely killed half the whales. And there are some endangered species that this would be the death knell of the species because they might not have enough breeding pairs left after the snap.
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May 1, 2019 19:01
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marshmallow creep posted:Did he take exactly half of every species or half of all life in aggregate? I mean he didn't take half of Hawkeye's family, so some species groups may have been over-reaped compared to their over all population. Yes, half of ALL LIFE. Humans, whales, corn, plankton... etc, He definitely caused mass extinctions by wiping out so much bio-diversity that caused entire ecosystems to collapse.
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May 1, 2019 19:05
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Time is a flat four snaps in a circle
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May 1, 2019 19:06
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Humanity is a cancer on the planet and eliminating half the population would be a major benefit, but Thanos killed trillions across the entire universe so that's going to far imo. And yea, the animals were innocent.
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May 1, 2019 19:15
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Here's the craziest bit about Thanos' motivations or plan It's all make believe, who gives a poo poo
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May 1, 2019 19:28
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Croatoan posted:Here's the craziest bit about Thanos' motivations or plan It's all make believe, who gives a poo poo It's like video games. Now there's some deranged fan who is inspired to kill half the universe. We may have already created a much fatter and weaker Thanos.
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May 1, 2019 19:49
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MariusLecter posted:Yes, half of ALL LIFE. the directors said they intended half of *all* life but we don't see any plants getting dusted in the jungle so from in-film evidence it probably excluded autotrophs
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May 1, 2019 20:26
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Tunicate posted:the directors said they intended half of *all* life but we don't see any plants getting dusted in the jungle so from in-film evidence it probably excluded autotrophs From Endgame Ant-Man seems to know they reversed the Snap just from looking outside in the courtyard. I assumed the tree out there was dead in a prior scene and now it was alive. However, I do not recall seeing the tree before that point.The tree is then destroyed. The lack of plants getting dusted may have been sloppy editing or perhaps they wanted to ensure all the attention was on the superheroes and not a bunch of pines.
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Krispy Wafer posted:From Endgame Ant-Man seems to know they reversed the Snap just from looking outside in the courtyard. I assumed the tree out there was dead in a prior scene and now it was alive. However, I do not recall seeing the tree before that point.The tree is then destroyed. I thought Scott was looking at the birds, which seemed to be happy. There were two chasing each other around, and I think it was just implied.
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Yeah, it was ^^^ that
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So the birds took the Snap the hard too? Other animal species were as emotionally damaged as people? OMG all those sad dogs!
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It never explicitly stated or drawn attention but in certain scenes you could see Thanos dick swaying to and fro because dude is like ten feet tall he’s got to have a foot and a half long penis it’s just science
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May 1, 2019 21:29
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Endgame I did enjoy the little callback to Avengers 1 when Thor zapped Tony's chest to jumpstart his heart after Ant-Man broke his arc reactor to make the distraction. Thor tried to electrocute Tony in Avengers 1 and accidentally supercharged the Iron Man suit, so it makes sense that he'd try to do a little shock again to get the arc reactor working.
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oldpainless posted:If there’s less whales how can there be more whales? Your argument is flawed. Whales are an endangered species. Halving a population that's already critically low could doom them to extinction.
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May 1, 2019 23:02
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MariusLecter posted:Yes, half of ALL LIFE. "All creatures" according to the movie itself.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Endgame They do it again when they first start fighting Thanos and Thor hits him with lightning from both his weapons to supercharge Tony's armor
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Henchman of Santa posted:Movie Thanos is a really dumb guy from your Philosophy class. I'm Thanos?
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May 2, 2019 01:25
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Milo and POTUS posted:I'm Thanos? We all Thanos
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Away all Goats posted:They do it again when they first start fighting Thanos and Thor hits him with lightning from both his weapons to supercharge Tony's armor I think Tony actually had a thingy put into his armor that was designed specifically to do Thor power combos.
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May 2, 2019 10:27
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Popeahuntis posted:We all Thanos Than Us
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oldpainless posted:It never explicitly stated or drawn attention but in certain scenes you could see Thanos dick swaying to and fro because dude is like ten feet tall he’s got to have a foot and a half long penis it’s just science More like olddickless.
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Beachcomber posted:I think Tony actually had a thingy put into his armor that was designed specifically to do Thor power combos. Agreed. The back kinda pops open.
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Roblo posted:Agreed. The back kinda pops open. I mean, at that point Tony's suit is basically a semi-amorphous mass of nanites that reconfigure themselves at his slightest whim so it probably didn't have a Thor Empowering Gizmo until he decided it needed one
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The trend towards suits full of nanites that fold away into nothing was frustrating. Especially with Ant-Man's suit, which is supposed to look rather clunky and make satisfying clicking and popping noises. Same goes for Spider-man. If he can't do it with web-shooters then it doesn't need to be done.
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You paid for Robert Downey Jr's face and body you can't hide that behind a suit of armor. It needs to be form fitting and we need to see his full head as much as possible. No more face cam footage or retractable helmet visors, we need full on dematerialization.
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