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FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Halloween Jack posted:

Don't read this right before dinner.

The most striking thing about it is that it's perfectly legal for these huge pig farms to spray liquid pig poo poo into the air until it atomizes and drifts over the countryside as a cloud of poisonous gas. You apparently have no legal recourse if your home is so awash in pig poo poo gas that it regularly knocks you unconscious and your home permanently reeks of pig poo poo.
It's always fun when a state with lots of those giant retaining pools for liquid pigshit (like North Carolina) gets hit with a hurricane or record rains/flooding.

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Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

Halloween Jack posted:

Don't read this right before dinner.

The most striking thing about it is that it's perfectly legal for these huge pig farms to spray liquid pig poo poo into the air until it atomizes and drifts over the countryside as a cloud of poisonous gas. You apparently have no legal recourse if your home is so awash in pig poo poo gas that it regularly knocks you unconscious and your home permanently reeks of pig poo poo.

having split my life both as a kid and adult in the midwest and east coast, you all have my permission to fly over flyover country. Or maybe it's just Iowa.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Close enough

https://mobile.twitter.com/burgessev/status/1123709479395241986

jobson groeth
May 17, 2018

by FactsAreUseless

lmoa

Moderate dems are loving chuds and will always tow the chud line. Trying to claim embarrassment now to get elected next year once you've eaten crow and claimed you've learned your lesson is all they're doing.

Tetrabor
Oct 14, 2018

Eight points of contact at all times!

jobson groeth posted:

Trying to claim embarrassment now to get elected next year once you've eaten crow and claimed you've learned your lesson is all they're doing.

Works for Republicans!

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1123710438519320581

jobson groeth
May 17, 2018

by FactsAreUseless

Tetrabor posted:

Works for Republicans!

moderate dems are republicans

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Eat This Glob posted:

no joke, the poo poo fumes will goddamn kill you http://nasdonline.org/1186/d001028/niosh-warns-manure-pits-continue-to-claim-lives.html

people drown in corn and go down to dookie fumes all the time. farmers need a thin brown line flag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAQZaUixmpA&t=603s

Vincent Van Goatse has issued a correction as of 00:47 on May 2, 2019

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
Do we need more farmers because the only people growing food anymore are the dumbest motherfuckers on earth, like don't even understand their own business type dumb motherfuckers

There was a really cool local farm around here that grew all sorts of wonderful things and gave the waste(not literal waste, just stuff that they couldn't even sell at markets) to places that house refugees, but they stopped as everyone in the family got old and died. I think about those guys when I think about farmers, but man maybe I loving shouldn't

Grondoth has issued a correction as of 00:55 on May 2, 2019

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Eat This Glob posted:

no joke, the poo poo fumes will goddamn kill you http://nasdonline.org/1186/d001028/niosh-warns-manure-pits-continue-to-claim-lives.html

people drown in corn and go down to dookie fumes all the time. farmers need a thin brown line flag
Manure pit deaths are always hilarious. The bad heavy dook fumes sink to the bottom so sometimes someone is overcome and falls down to die, and then someone up top notices a family member has passed out at the bottom of the pit so they rush down their to rescue them and then they succumb. Rinse and repeat. Sometimes whole families get wiped out.

Ag extension programs produce a tidal wave of material to try and inform farmers of the dangers of these pits and to train to fight their first instinct to rush down to help a loved one in trouble.

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

FMguru posted:

Manure pit deaths are always hilarious. The bad heavy dook fumes sink to the bottom so sometimes someone is overcome and falls down to die, and then someone up top notices a family member has passed out at the bottom of the pit so they rush down their to rescue them and then they succumb. Rinse and repeat. Sometimes whole families get wiped out.

Ag extension programs produce a tidal wave of material to try and inform farmers of the dangers of these pits and to train to fight their first instinct to rush down to help a loved one in trouble.

you're not wrong. It is like that lemmings game from 1995 but it is hog farmers falling into some fumes that will kill you dead.

The Most Macabre After School Special Ever posted:

It is not uncommon for manure pit incidents to result in multiple fatalities. As the following case demonstrates, persons attempting to rescue others in these confined spaces frequently become victims themselves. On a late summer afternoon, a farm worker entered a 10-foot-deep manure pit on his family's farm to make a repair. While attempting to climb out of the pit, he was overcome and fell to the bottom. His 15-year-old nephew then entered the pit to attempt a rescue. He too was overcome and collapsed. The boy's father, his cousin, and his grandfather, the farm owner, then entered the pit one by one, attempting to rescue him and his uncle. Tragically all five family members died.

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
lmao family farmers are dumb motherfuckers holy poo poo

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003

Eat This Glob posted:

you're not wrong. It is like that lemmings game from 1995 but it is hog farmers falling into some fumes that will kill you dead.

this belongs in the happy thread

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
ain't nothing sad about every member of a family that blights the very earth dying

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

ain't nothing sad about every member of a family that blights the very earth dying

I feel bad for the initial farm worker, but that’s where I draw the line

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
sometimes the first person to die is a kid, which sucks. that still doesn't make me feel sorry for anyone in the lemming sequence who isn't a kid.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pigshit lagoons kill you without even needing to drown in it. Just falling in is an instant death sentence.

Shaffness
Jan 15, 2001

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

sometimes the first person to die is a kid, which sucks. that still doesn't make me feel sorry for anyone in the lemming sequence who isn't a kid.

That initial kid should get a hero's burial. Took out a whole mess of chuds including a future one ie himself. He da real mvp.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007



how could the democrats do this

jobson groeth
May 17, 2018

by FactsAreUseless

Not quite sure why but here, have this

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Epic High Five posted:

rural whites will participate in revolution before the urban libs do, and when the libs join in it will be on the side of the fascists
i really don't get how people get to assert this without any pushback even though its delusional fantasy

"urban libs" are black brown and asian people and their districts are the ones sending people like AOC and Rashida Tlaib to washington. rural whites otoh, are former dixiecrats and are the people who are currently the most enamored with fascism so they keep sending Joe Manchin to congress.

believe it or not, the constituencies which once supported leftist politics have actually changed a great deal since the 1920s, most notably in 1968 after which white people stopped supporting left-liberals en masse

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cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
white socialists on cspam desperately want to believe that white rurals arent racist fentanyl addled lumpenproles who are constantly seduced by fascism and are in fact quietly seething with revolutionary potential, its just left untapped by dirty (((urban libs))) who are too busy electing brown women socialists

white rurals who are totally for real secret socialists are the same ones who plot about assassinating ilhan omar on a daily basis and are stupid enough to post about publicly such that the FBI and Secret Service couldn't possibly ignore

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Not every white person in those places is a dead-eyed fascist. Literally everyone is “working class” today in the sense of being desperate and in a perpetual state of precarity. Juggalos are comrades, for example, while your Betos and your Buttigiegs are the real fascists in waiting (and not people of color being elected to the house—who says that?)

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
im just saying rural marxist nerds on this board have this performative contempt for "urban liberals" as if that doesn't mean districts heavily featuring working class people of color who actually elect insurgent populists / justice democrat candidates, which is a trend that no other districts or constituencies have actually followed suit on, despite attempts to do so in places like WV, St. Louis and Ohio

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

“Urban liberal” means capitalist norms respecter most of the time. Most people seem to understand that insurgent populism is good when it comes from the left, and lots of people want it.

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
Where is there any evidence to support the idea that white rurals are just waiting for legit left wing candidates to stop ignoring them? Why don't legitimate WWC insurgent left populists like Iron Stache or Richard Ojeda get anywhere, when someone like AOC can upend the chain of seniority and patronage at the top of the democratic establishment within a single election?

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

cargo cult posted:

Where is there any evidence to support the idea that white rurals are just waiting for legit left wing candidates to stop ignoring them? Why don't legitimate WWC insurgent left populists like Iron Stache or Richard Ojeda get anywhere, when someone like AOC can upend the chain of seniority and patronage at the top of the democratic establishment within a single election?

Because leftwing rurals get bullied until they either move away (to urban areas where its not a crime to be left) or fall in line and vote R down ticket.

What the gently caress happened to me, I didn't use to be this pessimistic.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Because American democracy is a sham designed to prevent any challenge to entrenched power structures, and that is more true of districts which are mostly dead foundries and hog poo poo lagoons than places with a bunch more potential voters who just don’t bother? AOC and Omar get so much attention because they’re pretty much the only ones to make it, and they’re basically under constant attack even by their own party.

White people are a huge problem because whiteness is a mental illness, but no demographic is a monolith. The democrats are garbage because they abandoned everyone for capital and not because they won’t field good candidates in Wisconsin. I’m not sure what we’re arguing about any more.

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
I am going to be honest I got triggered by that quote in question because Epic High Five asserted that rural white people will more readily join in (presumably left wing) revolution than urban liberals, despite the fact that urban liberals are actually the ones at the receiving end of state enforced white supremacy. I also really dislike the notion that White Supremacy in the red states is exclusively the province of upper middle class white people, who somehow manipulated working people into engaging in racist violence like lynchings. This to me sounds like fantastical revisionism. I'm pretty sure participation in pogroms and race riots isn't limited to class. From what I remember of American history some of the most strident and violent resistance to reconstruction came from white peasants who wanted to at least have a place in the caste system higher than freedmen.

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Because American democracy is a sham designed to prevent any challenge to entrenched power structures, and that is more true of districts which are mostly dead foundries and hog poo poo lagoons than places with a bunch more potential voters who just don’t bother? AOC and Omar get so much attention because they’re pretty much the only ones to make it, and they’re basically under constant attack even by their own party.

White people are a huge problem because whiteness is a mental illness, but no demographic is a monolith. The democrats are garbage because they abandoned everyone for capital and not because they won’t field good candidates in Wisconsin. I’m not sure what we’re arguing about any more.
i mean i agree with you that the democrats will take any excuse to start conceding rust belt states to fascists. they're a dogshit capitalist capitulation party. I guess i'm just saying that i think white supremacy is still a huge issue and it won't be overcome by cornepone rural socialism.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

FMguru posted:

Manure pit deaths are always hilarious.

Unfortunately most of the people dying from this aren't chuds but the people who do the actual work on the farms (immigrant labor).

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

cargo cult posted:

I am going to be honest I got triggered by that quote in question because Epic High Five asserted that rural white people will more readily join in (presumably left wing) revolution than urban liberals, despite the fact that urban liberals are actually the ones at the receiving end of state enforced white supremacy. I also really dislike the notion that White Supremacy in the red states is exclusively the province of upper middle class white people, who somehow manipulated working people into engaging in racist violence like lynchings. This to me sounds like fantastical revisionism. I'm pretty sure participation in pogroms and race riots isn't limited to class. From what I remember of American history some of the most strident and violent resistance to reconstruction came from white peasants who wanted to at least have a place in the caste system higher than freedmen.

I mean, it is true that whiteness was literally invented and deployed by rich people to manipulate poor whites into acting against their best interests. The southern planter class deliberately created the conditions that caused reconstruction to fail.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Serf
May 5, 2011


ultimately i dislike the framing of it as "rural whites." take a trip down here sometime and realize that it ain't all white people

and no, i don't think there is some mass of rural communists who are just waiting for someone to speak the magic words and get people to the polls. most rural people are politically disengaged because the struggle to get through the day is time-consuming enough, and they're used to being ignored by politicians. on top of that, the process of getting informed and becoming active is stymied at every turn by the economic realities of our situation, and overcoming that is going to take a lot of work

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

White genocide is a good thing and it's too bad it's not really happening because without it a lot of bad regimes and groups would just loving die out.

(I don't want to be like this, but gently caress if it's not cathartic)

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
I just think only crypto-nazbol types can be open eye hallucinating fever dreams of revolutionary violence in Red America. if the Federal government finally concedes its monopoly on violence in the flyover states the people living there aren't going to march a thousand miles to try to re-enact the siege of Sarajevo on the hamptons and lower manhattan

they're going to immediately start ethnically cleansing ethnic, gender, sexual and religious and minorities before issuing their own crypto-currency backed by oxycodone as their central currency for their breakway fail state

if you think this is a desirable outcome its cause you see the sectarian violence as an acceptable loss, probably cause you figure you wont be on the receiving end of it. either way you definitely cant pass yourself off as a leftist because thats insane bullshit

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I recently read White Identity Politics by Ashley Jardina, which gets into some of this. Basically, there is a considerable proportion of white Americans who don’t have much of a problem with programs to help black people or other disadvantaged minorities but who do value what they see as the advantages of being white, which include things like only being around other whites and having an easier time getting a job or being treated favorably by police. Jardina’s argument is that these people are frightened of the end of the white majority because they think that they will be reduced to the same level as everyone else. So there’s not much that can be done to reach them because of how they’ve constructed a political identity informed by their own race.

Their children could be reached if we had passable schooling and less segregation but lol to that. Although I feel like I should mention that my entire family is full of racists but somehow my brother and I ended up not being that way, probably because of PBS and making friends of different races at school.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009


absolutely incredible.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I recently read White Identity Politics by Ashley Jardina, which gets into some of this. Basically, there is a considerable proportion of white Americans who don’t have much of a problem with programs to help black people or other disadvantaged minorities but who do value what they see as the advantages of being white, which include things like only being around other whites and having an easier time getting a job or being treated favorably by police. Jardina’s argument is that these people are frightened of the end of the white majority because they think that they will be reduced to the same level as everyone else. So there’s not much that can be done to reach them because of how they’ve constructed a political identity informed by their own race.

Their children could be reached if we had passable schooling and less segregation but lol to that. Although I feel like I should mention that my entire family is full of racists but somehow my brother and I ended up not being that way, probably because of PBS and making friends of different races at school.

i went to public school where the population was roughly 60/40 white/black and i turned out just fine along with most of my peers

meanwhile at the private schools that were all established in 1968 they chant racist songs in the hallways and throw empty cans at black kids on the street

weird how that works out

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Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Then all the good kids move away for a place with an actual economy while the racist shits stay and leech off their dads car lot.

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