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An insane mind posted:gently caress EA. I know this is an unpopular opinion
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Commander Keene posted:I can't tell if this part is serious or not. Most of the opinions I've heard about EA puts them right around Ubisoft levels of bad, and if anything, the opinion that they should leave game development to better companies seems to be the more popular opinion in my experience. I was being sarcastic. But I guess my general posting is so bad people can't tell anymore.
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e: ^^ And then it sold poorly and gave them an excuse to say, "See? This is why we weren't making a sequel." Wait, what's wrong with Ubi? All I know is that they're putting out almost the exact same game each year for Far Cry and that Assassin's Creed was the same and now it's the same but different.
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Commander Keene posted:I can't tell if this part is serious or not. Most of the opinions I've heard about EA puts them right around Ubisoft levels of bad, and if anything, the opinion that they should leave game development to better companies seems to be the more popular opinion in my experience. EA was killing game studios when Ubisoft was still only making incomprehensible, terrible French-language RPGs for CPC Amstrads. EA has been killing studios and franchises longer than most gamers have been alive. Ubisoft sucks, but they do not and will never approach the level of gaming mass-murderer that is EA. EA was a hated corporate monster that killed beloved franchises and sunk studios they bought back when the Commodore 64 was the dominant home computer.
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Even if they were sarcastic isn't it true though? EA games are still topping the charts, even in this forum the threads of their current games rarely fall past second page. Is everyone ironically playing and posting about those games then? Sininu fucked around with this message at 13:37 on May 2, 2019 |
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Sininu posted:Even if they were sarcastic isn't it true though? EA games are still topping the charts, even in this forum the threads of their current games rarely fall past second page. I think this is because they have their fingers in enough pies that the crowd that doesn't care about horrible practices or people being exploited and just want to game buys their poo poo. Also, they see a company that works buy them out hollow them out so they can wear them for a while and coast on the good will before tearing off the skin and moving on. It's their m.o.
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:e: ^^ And then it sold poorly and gave them an excuse to say, "See? This is why we weren't making a sequel."
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Unisoft also barely supported their games with patches until 6 or so years ago. Many dumb issues that never bothered to fix. This year they re-released bunch of older Settlers games. Fixed at least some of the main issues they didn't care to fix before and slapped uplay and new price tag on top. Ugh. Sininu fucked around with this message at 13:53 on May 2, 2019 |
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chairface posted:EA was killing game studios when Ubisoft was still only making incomprehensible, terrible French-language RPGs for CPC Amstrads. EA has been killing studios and franchises longer than most gamers have been alive. Ubisoft sucks, but they do not and will never approach the level of gaming mass-murderer that is EA. EA was a hated corporate monster that killed beloved franchises and sunk studios they bought back when the Commodore 64 was the dominant home computer. Remember when EA bought Origin, the creators of Ulitma? And then promptly stopped making Ultima games and closed the studio? It's like they bought the company JUST to name their storefront after it or something.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Remember when EA bought Origin, the creators of Ulitma? And then promptly stopped making Ultima games and closed the studio? It's like they bought the company JUST to name their storefront after it or something. To be fair, the final Ultima game was poo poo.
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It is worth noting that many of the things Valve does with steam, and with their broader enterprises (such as VR) also have the goal of erecting new, costly barriers to market competition for other game distribution platforms. This includes the tidal wave of terrible games. Many, many of the things wrong with gaming today are either solely, or greatly, the product of Valve's ability to shape, influence and ultimately control the scope of the market, and the framework through which games are evaluated.
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:I consistently hear that the Valve office politicking is nightmarish, and I've heard a feeeeeeew real bonkers stories from a guy who knows a guy, but based on his credentials I totally believe him. Considering Gabe was at Microsoft from the start of his career until he cashed in and started Valve, Valve being a toxic hellhole doesn’t surprise me in the least. Just the fact that they use Stack Ranking makes me ill.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Remember when EA bought Origin, the creators of Ulitma? And then promptly stopped making Ultima games and closed the studio? It's like they bought the company JUST to name their storefront after it or something. I’ve read some articles that talked to insiders, and Origin was a mess long before EA. Garriott had run things into the ground pretty soundly and they’d have gone under without the buyout. EA tried to get things on track, but it just wasn’t ever going to be possible to turn things around.
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This just in, video game industry a cess pit of canabalistic and inhumane practices, film at 11.
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Deadguy2322 posted:Just the fact that they use Stack Ranking makes me ill. Who what now?
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Deadguy2322 posted:I’ve read some articles that talked to insiders, and Origin was a mess long before EA. Garriott had run things into the ground pretty soundly and they’d have gone under without the buyout. EA tried to get things on track, but it just wasn’t ever going to be possible to turn things around. Origin was basically the one time that EA was the good guys in a situation.
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Yeah, if I remember rightly a lot of Origin employees were glad of the buyout because EA actually paid them on time
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hexwren posted:Who what now? Stack ranking is a performance review system where everyone in the company is ranked from "most productive" to "least productive" every year. The top 20% get bonuses, the middle 60% are told to be grateful for their job and try harder, and the bottom 20% get fired. It produces a vicious backbiting environment where people constantly play politics and sabotage each other. For devs, if you want to buy that bigger house, your best option for a raise isn't to make good code and compete with Epic Game Store or Origin or w/e -- it's to throw one of your coworkers under the bus so that you're more likely to end up in the top 20%. For managers, it means intentionally hiring people that are incompetent so that you can intentionally throw them in the bottom 20% at the end of the year, filling up the garbage hopper so that your actual team members don't end up in the bottom 20%. Teams fight with each other, hide info from each other, even sabotage each other to make sure they survive. Ballmer instituted it at Microsoft in the 2000s when he became CEO, because Jack Welsh had done it at GM and he worshipped Welsh. It turns out that management styles for industrial production lines don't work out well for creative industries, and Microsoft both lost a ton of talent and ruined their own products due to internal infighting. In the end, it was the main cause of Microsoft's "Lost Decade" and drat near killed the company; they got rid of it in 2013 when Ballmer retired. Valve reportedly still uses it, probably because it's what Gabe was familiar with when he left Microsoft to found Valve. ullerrm fucked around with this message at 04:13 on May 3, 2019 |
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It cancels out and he's grateful for his job and tries harder.
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Kchama posted:Origin was basically the one time that EA was the good guys in a situation. I've read accounts about the last days of Maxis before the EA buyout, and they were pretty similar.
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ullerrm posted:Valve uses a performance review system where everyone in the company is ranked from "most productive" to "least productive" every year. The top 20% get bonuses, the middle 60% are told to be grateful for their job and try harder, and the bottom 20% get fired.  in what world does pitting your team against itself a good idea? Didnt SEARS do something similar?Edit: or fostering an environment that would cause that to happen. Sounds like Valve would implode if not for the storefront.
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The vast majority of people running companies have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
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Wamdoodle posted:
A capitalist one. Capitalists have a hard-on for competition and will think of a way to work it into every aspect of everything they loving do.
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Wamdoodle posted:
Gamestop, for a long time, cultivated a similar attitude when I worked there, the assistant manager would actively cheat his numbers for reserves / game informer subs / whatever, in addition to sabotaging other people on the staff so they couldn't pull comparable numbers. He'd do poo poo like sending people to the back to gently caress off if a customer known for making reserves walked in then he'd get praised while the rest of us got nasty e-mails / stern talks from our manager, who knew what was going on but had to be like "look I know, I get it, but the regional manager told me I need to talk to you about numbers so uhhh yeah this loving sucks" that poo poo also happened when I worked for a blackjack pit where everyone kept their own tips, one dealer was sucking a pitboss's dick (that's not speculation, nor is it my grossest casino story) so if a big tipper would roll up, she'd be guaranteed to get switched to that table and all the other dealers would get shafted immediately to empty tables work sucks, putting your employees at each other's throats is not unusual but it is peak capitalism
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I thought I was joking when I said that Valve has a pit in the basement where employees have knifefights.
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Well not literally. They might be liable for something if they did.
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ultrafilter posted:Well not literally. They might be liable for something if they did. Yeah gaben's knife collection is pretty valuable these days, I'm sure.
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Wamdoodle posted:
Amazon does it too. It's a silicon valley thing
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iirc Amazon doesn't use stack ranking, but has other strict in-or-out performance metric standards for their warehouse jobs that, while bad, are not within a million miles as stupid as stack ranking.
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Omey Salvi's Sunscreenquote:This game is weird.
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Wamdoodle posted:
The Germans did it in WWII. As we all know the Nazis were big into "Strife breeds greatness! Arrragh!" poo poo, and thus decided to apply this to their industry and as a result there was a stupid amount of infighting and duplication of effort between industrialists and elements of the Nazi party and so on. Like higher ranking Nazis would send the SS to kidnap workers from factories run by their rivals or by lower-ranking Nazis, or would send the army draft board after the workers at those factories, and the guys at the top like Goering would intentionally keep the infighting going to prevent their subordinates from getting enough political power to threaten them. One of the best German night fighter designs never got built in any great number because the head of the Reich Aviation Ministry was a fan of a different design and kept sabotaging the aircraft and also arranged for it's main proponent, one of the Luftwaffe's more capable commanders, to get exiled to Norway.
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I remember this game utterly confusing Jim Sterling several years ago, but I had no idea it's on Steam. https://store.steampowered.com/app/453790/Candice_DeBbs_Incredibly_Trick_Lifestyle/ And now it even has a sequel. https://store.steampowered.com/app/941540/Candice_DeBbs_Scandalous_Secrets/ The MSJ fucked around with this message at 06:59 on May 3, 2019 |
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