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Milkfred E. Moore posted:So, Kylo Ren's 'Finish what you started' back in TFA is going to mean, like, Vader killing Palpatine, right? Ren'll say that he always knew Snoke was Palpatine and that'll lead to the redemption story. It's. Like. Poetry.
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:So, Kylo Ren's 'Finish what you started' back in TFA is going to mean, like, Vader killing Palpatine, right? Ren'll say that he always knew Snoke was Palpatine and that'll lead to the redemption story. Redemption of what? He just keep killing his father figures. He was 2 second away from killing mom too.
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Sheev laughs for two seconds in the teaser and now every leak is saying that this laugh is the key to everything. Sheev's the most important character in the film!!! The Force Awakens teaser had a clip of Luke Skywalker, edited to say "the force is strong in my family. My father has it. I have it. My sister has it... You have it too." That's the origin of basically every single "Rey's parents" speculation, fake leak or rumor you've ever heard. Luke must be talking about Rey, so how is he related to Rey?!! Problem is that the dialogue there is referring to Kylo. The teaser was made back when "Luke is Kylo's uncle" was still intended a big third-act plot twist. So, like a ton of shots and dialogue in the trailers, it never actually ended up in the film at all.
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:So, Kylo Ren's 'Finish what you started' back in TFA is going to mean, like, Vader killing Palpatine, right? Ren'll say that he always knew Snoke was Palpatine and that'll lead to the redemption story. That sounds loving dumb if only because everyone know's that not what they were going for when he originally said that and that this is just an asspull.
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crowoutofcontext posted:I know that he's headed toward some sort of redemption but I don't see how they can square it with him committing patricide, attempt matricide and a bunch of galactic genocides to trick empire into letting his guard down. I guess its going to be "without the love of Rey" I wouldn't have turned good, just like Vader seemingly wouldnt have turned without the spectacle of his son?
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Cheesus posted:With as much as Abrams has understood Lucas's OT story, I can see the visual turning point being Kylo looking down at his real gloved hand and then tossing his lightsaber aside. I can’t begin to express how much I want this to happen.
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May 3, 2019 18:13
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Kylo and Rey team up to kill Palpatine’s physical incarnation, and then Luke, Yoda, Anankin, and Obi-Wan team up to kill his ghost
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May 3, 2019 18:16
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Can't wait to see Rey and Kylo bicker about who gets to kill Palpatine, who eventually goes "Screw this" and throws himself over the railing to end his suffering
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May 3, 2019 18:53
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Vinylshadow posted:Can't wait to see Rey and Kylo bicker about who gets to kill Palpatine, who eventually goes "Screw this" and throws himself over the railing to end his suffering theyll have a periscoped live debate over whether killing palpy is a light side or dark side move
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So is this movie going to bomb or what?
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May 3, 2019 19:19
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Shaocaholica posted:So is this movie going to bomb or what? No, but it might do Last Jedi numbers or a little worse (i.e., a lot of money but not all of the money)
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Shaocaholica posted:So is this movie going to bomb or what? It's pretty much impossible for it to bomb. Like, just the sheer amount of advertising (the previous episodes are themselves feature-length ads for this one) guarantees an audience. Worst-case scenario for Disney is an Amazing Spiderman 2 kind of situation where the film "only" makes 800 million.
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I didn't think it was possible for Solo to bomb either, but it had a lot going against it that Rise of Skywalker won't ( marketing campaign, coming out in a crowded market only a few months after an ambivalently-received TLJ, a who-cares premise, a year of negative press)
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Shaocaholica posted:So is this movie going to bomb or what? Or what.
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General Dog posted:I didn't think it was possible for Solo to bomb either, but it had a lot going against it that Rise of Skywalker won't ( Solo bombed (sorta) because they doubled the budget and barely marketed it. The first trailer came out 3 months before the release date.
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Oh there was a whole announcement and everything: 'Solo: A Star Wars Story' partners with the best brand possible: Solo cups https://mashable.com/2018/03/06/solo-star-wars-cup/ "There is no victory sweeter than landing a great branding partnership."
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Sorry to dredge up the chat about that Vader comic, but from everything I read stating how awful it is, it's never mentioned that the nurse has been keeping a curio box of Vader's dead skin and bloody cyborg parts in her quarters. That is not normal by any stretch. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that fandom got upset since so many think Harley Quinn is a picture of sanity and romance.
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male writer writing a woman to OWN THE FANGIRLS by making her crazy doesn't make it any better when the male writer makes her more of a psychopath
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M_Sinistrari posted:Sorry to dredge up the chat about that Vader comic, but from everything I read stating how awful it is, it's never mentioned that the nurse has been keeping a curio box of Vader's dead skin and bloody cyborg parts in her quarters. That is not normal by any stretch. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that fandom got upset since so many think Harley Quinn is a picture of sanity and romance. What are you trying to say here cause I’m not getting it
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feedmyleg posted:Would 100% watch a Star Wars remake that takes place in depressed, small town Midwestern America. No Country for Old Jedi
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Neo Rasa posted:No Country for Old Jedi This would be a great movie and I'd watch the living poo poo out of it I mean it's all right there. Brolin as the Solo-type in over his head with a Twi'lek wife, old jedi Tommy Lee Jones who hasn't turned on his lightsaber in 40 years, some crazy-rear end sith with a bad haircut walking up to people and lightsabering into their brains
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Better yet, he's not a Sith, just regular Chigurh.
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DeimosRising posted:What are you trying to say here cause I’m not getting it Certainly and I do apologize for not being clearer. The main point I've seen is the nurse is a slam against the fangirls. From what we see of the nurse's actions, she fantasizes about him to the point of even fantasizing her being a Sith. That's common to the point of being no big deal. But to her fantasizing isn't enough, she's collecting his dead skin and bloody cyborg components when he goes to the doctor. That's not normal fangirling. That's more in common with the extreme end of things where fandom goes from appreciating into the unnerving. From the articles I've read, the collecting his biowaste isn't mentioned. Could it be I just haven't read enough articles? Possible. As Vader's killed everyone save the Emperor for seeing him without his helmet at this point in time, it was kinda inevitable she was going to die. It also isn't the first time Vader's shown total disdain towards someone he's killed regardless of gender. She's a sad and tragic figure, and we should feel sad with how her life ended, but I don't see her as an insult against fangirls unless there's been something specific said somewhere from the writer that she is an insult of which then I will apologize further. My point about Harley Quinn is so many interpret her as a romantic figure in an adoring relationship when she's really in nothing of the sort and people get upset when you mention here's exactly how and why it's unhealthy. It's like people have come up with their own fantasy that ignores the abusiveness and have believed in it for so long they don't want to hear otherwise. That the people claiming the nurse is an insult to fangirls are only seeing the fantasy aspect and not the unnerving aspect comes across to me like they don't want to acknowledge that part or don't see a problem with it. Am I reading too much into this? Again, Possible. I've seen plenty of very messed up stuff in fandom over the years regardless of gender. I hope this clarified further and if anyone's got links proving otherwise, I will definitely apologize.
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I saw the nurse as a slam not against fangirls in particular but obsessive fans in general. She idolizes someone she doesn't even begin to understand and constructs her own version of reality before ever really engaging with her idol. Vader killing her is like a rejection of fans who want new Star Wars content to fit their headcanon before ever actually watching it.
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I think part of it, even beyond the obvious misogyny, is how stupid a choice like "Vader kills Everyone who sees his face" is to make for the character. Why the hell would he care?
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Adlai Stevenson posted:I saw the nurse as a slam not against fangirls in particular but obsessive fans in general. She idolizes someone she doesn't even begin to understand and constructs her own version of reality before ever really engaging with her idol. Vader killing her is like a rejection of fans who want new Star Wars content to fit their headcanon before ever actually watching it. "It's not about all fangirls, just the bad fans in general (who just happens to be personified hereas a very particular fangirl stereotype (that has cooties!))!" is a bad take. Why the gently caress is some officially sanctioned product picking a fight about who does or doesn't count as a "real" fan? That's for Cinema Discusso to decide, especially me.
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M_Sinistrari posted:Sorry to dredge up the chat about that Vader comic, but from everything I read stating how awful it is, it's never mentioned that the nurse has been keeping a curio box of Vader's dead skin and bloody cyborg parts in her quarters. That is not normal by any stretch. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that fandom got upset since so many think Harley Quinn is a picture of sanity and romance. From what I can tell, the fandom by and large actually loves that comic. For every upset tweet about it, there are like dozens of "this owns" comments wherever it's posted. Those that don't like it mostly think it's stupid that Star Wars now has something called "yandere", which is probably one of those anime terms I'm better off not looking up.
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It's a loving Ben Garrison comic in Star Wars form.
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Schwarzwald posted:"It's not about all fangirls, just the bad fans in general (who just happens to be personified hereas a very particular fangirl stereotype (that has cooties!))!" is a bad take. No subsection of fandom has a monopoly on myopic fantasizing and fetishization. Especially considering the howling that went on after episode 8 was released.
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Mameluke posted:I think part of it, even beyond the obvious misogyny, is how stupid a choice like "Vader kills Everyone who sees his face" is to make for the character. Why the hell would he care? It ruins the image that he's invincible - the Empire thrives on its image of impregnability and despite what Rebels and other pre-ANH material may lead you to believe, the Empire is a strong force to be reckoned with, and it usually puts down rebellious uprisings before they can truly ignite Then 3-4 years before ANH, their grip begins to slip and cracks begin to form which culminate in the destruction of the Death Star and planets all over the galaxy under Imperial rule rebelling against their Empire And as we see in ESB, they're still a force to be feared and it takes the death of the Emperor and his right hand to truly quash their rule, resulting in the Empire capitulating a year after Endor
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Mameluke posted:I think part of it, even beyond the obvious misogyny, is how stupid a choice like "Vader kills Everyone who sees his face" is to make for the character. Why the hell would he care? The writer can't cum unless a stupid woman dies being stupid.
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Mameluke posted:I think part of it, even beyond the obvious misogyny, is how stupid a choice like "Vader kills Everyone who sees his face" is to make for the character. Why the hell would he care? Well, you know, it's true to his character. Remember in ESB when Piett accidentally walks in on him while he's helmet-less, and he... um... does nothing about it?
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Angry Salami posted:Well, you know, it's true to his character. Remember in ESB when Piett accidentally walks in on him while he's helmet-less, and he... um... does nothing about it? People seeing the back of his head is fine, apparently.
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