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| Joe "the liberal who fights busing" Biden |
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27 | 1.40% |
| Bernie "please don't die" Sanders |
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1017 | 52.69% |
| Cory "charter schools" Booker |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Kirsten "wall street" Gillibrand |
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24 | 1.24% |
| Kamala "truancy queen" Harris |
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59 | 3.06% |
| Julian "who?" Castro |
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7 | 0.36% |
| Tulsi "gay panic" Gabbard |
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25 | 1.30% |
| Michael "crimes crimes crimes" Avenatti |
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22 | 1.14% |
| Sherrod "discount bernie" Brown |
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21 | 1.09% |
| Amy "horrible boss" Klobuchar |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Tammy "stands for america" Duckworth |
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48 | 2.49% |
| Beto "whataburger" O'Rourke |
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32 | 1.66% |
| Elizabeth "instagram beer" Warren |
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284 | 14.72% |
| Tom "impeach please" Steyer |
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4 | 0.21% |
| Michael "soda is the devil" Bloomberg |
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9 | 0.47% |
| Joseph Stalin |
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287 | 14.87% |
| Howard "coffee republican" Schultz |
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10 | 0.52% |
Jay "nobody cares about climate change  " Inslee |
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13 | 0.67% |
| Pete "gently caress the homeless" Butt Man |
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17 | 0.88% |
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Jaxyon posted:I like how up until she was actually running for president, nobody every considered Warren unlikeable. To be fair, I've been saying she should run for years and heard from a lot of folks in D&D that they didn't think she was charismatic enough. I'm sure the number's increased since she jumped in, though, which is definitely lovely.
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Jaxyon posted:I like how up until she was actually running for president, nobody every considered Warren unlikeable. Couldn't the same be said about Beto though?
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May 3, 2019 21:38
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Solvency posted:Couldn't the same be said about Beto though? I don't think "likability" is Beto's problem, so much as that he's just a complete empty suit.
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May 3, 2019 21:39
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Hey, I genuinely love Warren’s style when she gets going. That Wells Fargo hearing a couple years back was amazing. She’s going to win the debates, too, in that Christie/Gingrich way that doesn’t really help you in the polls. I just don’t think America is that into it. Fun fact: De Blasio’s real first name is Warren.
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May 3, 2019 21:40
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Majorian posted:To be fair, I've been saying she should run for years and heard from a lot of folks in D&D that they didn't think she was charismatic enough. I have been noticing though that the "she's not likable" has been fading from this forum in the last couple of months, and actually on social media/news in general.
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May 3, 2019 21:41
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Groovelord Neato posted:what is "policy"? I wish I had enough money, like these 2, that it made me see Democratic Party politics in only these terms. 
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May 3, 2019 21:42
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theblackw0lf posted:I have been noticing though that the "she's not likable" has been fading from this forum in the last couple of months, and actually on social media/news in general. Its felt more to me like people have just dismissed her as an afterthought who's campaign failure is inevitable so there's no real point in attacking.
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May 3, 2019 21:48
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theblackw0lf posted:I have been noticing though that the "she's not likable" has been fading from this forum in the last couple of months, and actually on social media/news in general. Yeah, being bold and unapologetic about sticking to your values is a likable thing. Something more Democrats could learn from, imo!
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May 3, 2019 21:48
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Majorian posted:Yeah, being bold and unapologetic about sticking to your values is a likable thing. Something more Democrats could learn from, imo! That and she received rave reviews for those the town hall and forum last week. It's kind of hard to say that someone is unlikable when she's receiving rapturous audience reception.
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May 3, 2019 21:50
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theblackw0lf posted:That and she received rave reviews for those the town hall and forum last week. To take that argument and flip it around, wouldn't Biden's audience reception indicate he's not as much of a threat as people are saying? Like I know the post-2016 narrative is that Hillary was the worst campaigner in history but I remember crowds responding pretty well to her in the moment. The Biden crowds just sound bored. I don't think this assumption that he has the Boomer vote locked up is going to hold true, they have plenty of candidates they can jump to if they get bored of Biden.
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May 3, 2019 21:54
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Pakled posted:He's the quintessential New York Democrat. He's a machine politician who sucks up to Wall Street and doesn't care to hold the NYPD accountable for anything at all. He implemented Universal PreK and a quasi single payer for kids in the city. He's been a pretty progressive mayor even if he's an rear end in a top hat with a giant ego.
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May 3, 2019 21:59
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WampaLord posted:To take that argument and flip it around, wouldn't Biden's audience reception indicate he's not as much of a threat as people are saying? Yea I think the people that are excited about Biden are thinking of the Obama-era Biden to slammed Paul Ryan in the debates. Getting a feeling that Biden doesn't exist as much anymore.
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May 3, 2019 22:10
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how is nate silver that dumb. uhhh bernie won't have many arguments to attack biden with other than being better than him on literally every policy.
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May 3, 2019 22:10
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He's been real pissy since the Pete Buttigieg momentum didn't especially show up in the polling.
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May 3, 2019 22:12
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mcmagic posted:He implemented Universal PreK and a quasi single payer for kids in the city. He's been a pretty progressive mayor even if he's an rear end in a top hat with a giant ego. Julián Castro did universal pre K too. Also like the entire state of Oklahoma. BdB spends his time worrying about rich drivers having to pay more to support the subway.
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May 3, 2019 22:19
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Badger of Basra posted:Julián Castro did universal pre K too. Also like the entire state of Oklahoma. BdB spends his time worrying about rich drivers having to pay more to support the subway. The Subway is Cuomo's issue...
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May 3, 2019 22:20
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Badger of Basra posted:Julián Castro did universal pre K too. Also like the entire state of Oklahoma. BdB spends his time worrying about rich drivers having to pay more to support the subway. Not sure Julian Castro had control over state policies in Oklahoma while he was mayor of the city of San Antonio, TX but maybe I can check into that...
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May 3, 2019 22:23
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Biden seems to be getting close to full-blown sundowning at this point. He wasn't going to win anyway, but this is pretty much the final nail in the coffin and now we just have to wait for the corpse to stop twitching.Groovelord Neato posted:how is nate silver that dumb. uhhh bernie won't have many arguments to attack biden with other than being better than him on literally every policy. The more I see the man punditing the more I move towards the opinion that Nate Silver is a goddamn idiot who got lucky once and has been coasting on that ever since.
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May 3, 2019 22:25
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Cerebral Bore posted:Biden seems to be getting close to full-blown sundowning at this point. He wasn't going to win anyway, but this is pretty much the final nail in the coffin and now we just have to wait for the corpse to stop twitching. One wonders if Warren feels like 1) she can't win and 2) Biden will, maybe she goes for VP and crosses her fingers he croaks in office? I'm jumping way ahead here but hey...who knows?
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May 3, 2019 22:29
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Cerebral Bore posted:Biden seems to be getting close to full-blown sundowning at this point. He wasn't going to win anyway, but this is pretty much the final nail in the coffin and now we just have to wait for the corpse to stop twitching. I wish I was as confidant in this as you are.... VH4Ever posted:One wonders if Warren feels like 1) she can't win and 2) Biden will, maybe she goes for VP and crosses her fingers he croaks in office? I'm jumping way ahead here but hey...who knows? I would have a REALLY hard time believing that Warren would go on a Biden ticket after the way she's been rightly trashing him.
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May 3, 2019 22:29
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VH4Ever posted:One wonders if Warren feels like 1) she can't win and 2) Biden will, maybe she goes for VP and crosses her fingers he croaks in office? I'm jumping way ahead here but hey...who knows? If they dislike each other half as much as is reported, that's just not happening.
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May 3, 2019 22:30
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sean10mm posted:The more I think about it the less I get the panic about Biden from the lefties (like me.) He's an establishment pick in a general way, but there just doesn't seem to be the monolithic institutional support for him that there was for Clinton. Like even Obama has been I think for me, the fear is that I think Biden is basically the only one who could credibly take on Bernie at this point. Everyone else is either a chump or a nobody.* *in a hypothetical head to head I think Warren could beat him but lol clowncar
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May 3, 2019 22:31
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towards Creepy Uncle Joe's candidacy, and his entire pitch is that he's Obama II: The Whitening. Like if he face plants like he did in every other primary run he tried, you have the center-right split 12 ways to Sunday and nobody gives a gently caress about any of them.
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King of Solomon posted:If they dislike each other half as much as is reported, that's just not happening. But see that would be the genius of it. I'm not serious, just having some fun with y'all. Lightning Knight posted:I think for me, the fear is that I think Biden is basically the only one who could credibly take on Bernie at this point. Everyone else is either a chump or a nobody.* Hey!
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May 3, 2019 22:32
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mcmagic posted:I wish I was as confidant in this as you are.... It's interesting because I think Warren would have pretty easily jumped on Hillary's ticket. But yea don't see her jumping on Biden's.
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May 3, 2019 22:48
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Pinterest Mom posted:https://twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/1124375790144184320 The good thing about DeBlasio running against Trump would be during a debate when he pulled an LBJ and leaned over a cowering Trump. VideoGameVet fucked around with this message at 23:07 on May 3, 2019 |
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May 3, 2019 23:05
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Typo posted:But the only real exception to "ethnic minority == immigrants" in US are African-Americans: and as I mentioned, stereotyping African-Americans as "lazy" and "undeserving" of welfare benefits and using them against transfer programs seem to work very well for the Republican party and in fact implicitly constitutes the core of Republican policy platforms. Pretty sure racism works just as well when they are not immigrants. That's just you stereotyping. There's tons of exceptions. There are plenty of white immigrants in the US, and plenty of native-born American citizens who are neither white nor black. Besides, that was a county-level analysis in Sweden. Is there anything particular about those counties that are receiving all the immigrants that sets them aside from the ones that aren't? Economic differences, maybe, or preexisting political divisions? How about the status and opinions of the immigrants themselves? The top three countries of origin for immigrants currently living in Sweden are Yugoslavia, Syria, and Finland; those are all very different countries whose people are emigrating for very different reasons. There are a lot of potential confounding factors there, made all the more difficult by the fact that that research was conducted a decade ago, when Sweden's immigrant demographics were much whiter and the Great Recession was at its deepest. Groovelord Neato posted:how is nate silver that dumb. uhhh bernie won't have many arguments to attack biden with other than being better than him on literally every policy. Bernie is an old straight white male just like Bernie, and what else could the Dem primary candidates possibly attack each other on besides identity checklists?
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May 3, 2019 23:09
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on top of that bernie would be the first jewish president. he's not an old white guy like biden is an old white guy.
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May 3, 2019 23:15
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Groovelord Neato posted:on top of that bernie would be the first jewish president. speaking of which, his VP pick is important for another reason: The new American Fash is gonna try and kill (((Sanders))).
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May 3, 2019 23:26
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https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1124407471534149632?s=19 Biden also polling in the 40s in a Virginia poll.
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May 3, 2019 23:32
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https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1124410526824574976 granted a lot of this is a announcement bounce but I wouldn't be surprised if the debates begin with biden floating above 30 and Bernie 20~25, buttgieg: 10-~15 everyone else <10
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May 3, 2019 23:51
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May 3, 2019 23:54
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Mind_Taker posted:...Clinton? Yes. Rumors she may consider running still. I think they're still scared of Progressives and Bernie and Biden isn't a sure thing so the End Boss may think she has to take care of it herself. She will collect and consume all the Centrist Stones, like Buttigeig, Harris, Gillenbrand, Klobuchar, Booker, O'Rourke, then face Bernie and Warren and Gravel. She is inevitable.
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May 4, 2019 00:01
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Ranter posted:speaking of which, his VP pick is important for another reason: The new American Fash is gonna try and kill (((Sanders))). This is why we have the secret service. They never got Obama. Plenty of them were around back then too.
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May 4, 2019 00:01
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Typo posted:https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1124410526824574976 hellworld baby arroooooo
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May 4, 2019 00:04
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https://twitter.com/gmulligan38/status/1124424783825911808?s=19 Basically all these polls are meaningless if (and only if) you get enough non-voters to turn out. If Bernie's ground game isn't superb he's toast. So... volunteer and donate! bowser fucked around with this message at 00:33 on May 4, 2019 |
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May 4, 2019 00:10
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https://mobile.twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1124426528207593473 Even (younger) doctors want M4A, turns out scaremongering about lower pay doesn't matter when dealing with the status quo is such a nightmare for them!
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May 4, 2019 00:11
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Biden blatantly sundowning is going to make his support even stronger among folks whose political goals begin and end with beating Trump and hoo boy am I not ready for that
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May 4, 2019 00:13
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bowser posted:There has to be some logical explanation for all these also-ran candidates that goes beyond their massive egos.... Right? Raising their national profile for cabinet positions.
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May 4, 2019 00:17
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VH4Ever posted:Not sure Julian Castro had control over state policies in Oklahoma while he was mayor of the city of San Antonio, TX but maybe I can check into that... Didn't he do something between being mayor of San Antonio and run for president?
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LinYutang posted:https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1124407471534149632?s=19 
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