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| Joe "the liberal who fights busing" Biden |
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27 | 1.40% |
| Bernie "please don't die" Sanders |
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1017 | 52.69% |
| Cory "charter schools" Booker |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Kirsten "wall street" Gillibrand |
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24 | 1.24% |
| Kamala "truancy queen" Harris |
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59 | 3.06% |
| Julian "who?" Castro |
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7 | 0.36% |
| Tulsi "gay panic" Gabbard |
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25 | 1.30% |
| Michael "crimes crimes crimes" Avenatti |
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22 | 1.14% |
| Sherrod "discount bernie" Brown |
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21 | 1.09% |
| Amy "horrible boss" Klobuchar |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Tammy "stands for america" Duckworth |
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48 | 2.49% |
| Beto "whataburger" O'Rourke |
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32 | 1.66% |
| Elizabeth "instagram beer" Warren |
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284 | 14.72% |
| Tom "impeach please" Steyer |
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4 | 0.21% |
| Michael "soda is the devil" Bloomberg |
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9 | 0.47% |
| Joseph Stalin |
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287 | 14.87% |
| Howard "coffee republican" Schultz |
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10 | 0.52% |
Jay "nobody cares about climate change  " Inslee |
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13 | 0.67% |
| Pete "gently caress the homeless" Butt Man |
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17 | 0.88% |
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HootTheOwl posted:Didn't he do something between being mayor of San Antonio and run for president? HUD secretary under Obama. He's been being groomed for national politics
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HootTheOwl posted:Raising their national profile for cabinet positions. I keep on hearing that. But why? It's not like the public is going to vote on cabinet members. Whoever is the president would select the best people (or their favorite friends). If they're seeking a cabinet position, wouldn't the smartest move be endorsing and stumping for them instead of running?
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May 4, 2019 00:47
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Luckyellow posted:I keep on hearing that. But why? It's not like the public is going to vote on cabinet members. Whoever is the president would select the best people (or their favorite friends). If they're seeking a cabinet position, wouldn't the smartest move be endorsing and stumping for them instead of running? It's just advertising. Get your name out there now so when you submit a resume in January 2021 people are going "oh that person!" Instead of "who? I've heard of Hickenlooper before." Also, endorsing is decisive.
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May 4, 2019 00:54
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HootTheOwl posted:Didn't he do something between being mayor of San Antonio and run for president? HUD secretary. My point still stands.
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May 4, 2019 00:57
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Groovelord Neato posted:how is nate silver that dumb. uhhh bernie won't have many arguments to attack biden with other than being better than him on literally every policy. Nate pretty clearly views politics as something that can be sabermetricsed down into math numbers. It's why he and his people are always coming up with new lanes, or corners, or factions. He's consistently wrong when punditing because he is more intent on breaking things down into subcategories that are meaningless when broken out from the whole. Which is why he'll both argue that Bernie and Biden are similar, because they're old white guys(sorry guys, Bernie is a white Jewish man, please stop trying to pretend it's ridiculous when people toss him in the white category). At the same time he'll argue until the cows come home that Beto and Buttigieg are totally different, because things like being gay and Midwestern are the real important things when comparing two empty suits. He's a numbers guy who is both pretty good at poll aggregation and also possessing the same level of political insight at the lady who has to start up a conversation with you in the check out line. ASL is always more important than ideology or policy. bowser posted:https://twitter.com/gmulligan38/status/1124424783825911808?s=19 I think people are focusing too much on debunking the polls based on sample composition and other stuff that's getting kind of adjacent to 2012 Republican stuff. Whether or not the polls are badly done, or unreflective, or under sampled, the more salient issue is that they are polls covering answers from the end of April the year before the election. The end is so far away that it is silly to even pretend they mean anything other than measuring who is and isn't completely and totally loving up. The polls are wrong, but only because they're asking a bunch of kids what they're favorite movie is going to be next summer. So of course the kids are saying that next summer, in 2014, their favorite movie is totally going to be Hercules. The Rock is awesome! There's way too much stuff that can and will happen between now and when people start voting. Gyges fucked around with this message at 01:05 on May 4, 2019 |
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May 4, 2019 01:03
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LinYutang posted:https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1124407471534149632?s=19 America is irredeemable and must be destroyed.
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May 4, 2019 01:32
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Hillary getting the nomination would all but guarantee Trump's second term.
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May 4, 2019 01:43
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Super De Blasio Bros. will hopefully go after Biden lovers.
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May 4, 2019 01:43
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Mantis42 posted:America is irredeemable and must be destroyed.
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May 4, 2019 01:46
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Mantis42 posted:America is irredeemable and must be destroyed. https://twitter.com/dfsparks/status/1124469214264250368
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May 4, 2019 01:48
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They'll destroy the country themselves.
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VH4Ever posted:Not sure Julian Castro had control over state policies in Oklahoma while he was mayor of the city of San Antonio, TX but maybe I can check into that... My point was that 1) someone else who’s running also did this; and 2) an insanely republican state also did this so it’s not some unbelievable, amazing accomplishment
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May 4, 2019 01:59
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https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1124300911533350912 He's so proud of it. And the worst part is if you ask him about it today, he'd probably say he's just as proud of it.
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May 4, 2019 02:16
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Double post: Bernie Sanders never had this before: A campaign machine that’s crushing it quote:The Sanders campaign has evolved from an unruly movement four years ago into a highly disciplined, highly structured, proactive machine that is the envy of the Washington establishment. An operation spawned from antipathy toward corporate America now functions with the precision, focus and outsized bank account of, well, corporate America.
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May 4, 2019 02:29
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WampaLord posted:Even (younger) doctors want M4A, turns out scaremongering about lower pay doesn't matter when dealing with the status quo is such a nightmare for them! I even have a younger doc family friend who comes from an extremely well-off family and she's been on the Bernie or Bust DSA train for years.
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May 4, 2019 02:52
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Is Stacey Abrams actually gonna run? I don't get it, why? Sorry if it's rude, and you could say that about a ton of the candidates, but I don't see why she doesn't just run for senate or governor again, why for president already?
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WampaLord posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1124426528207593473 Turns out more younger people favor leftist policy, while older people do not. Until the AMA as a full org supports M4A then we know what the headlines and talking points will be. The AMA is naturally going to skew more conservative given age to obtain credentials and income. You know what what would really put industries and orgs like AMA at ease, or at least allow them to make decisions about the future? Especially when investment decisions in terms of infrastructure / clinical development often look 5-20 years into the future? The most basic framework as to how reimbursement rates will change under M4A. KingNastidon fucked around with this message at 09:08 on May 4, 2019 |
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May 4, 2019 08:41
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Gyges posted:Which is why he'll both argue that Bernie and Biden are similar, because they're old white guys(sorry guys, Bernie is a white Jewish man, please stop trying to pretend it's ridiculous when people toss him in the white category) we've literally never had a non-christian president. have we even had a non-christian candidate? it's pretty ridiculous to say he's an old white guy in the same way biden is.
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May 4, 2019 11:05
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Groovelord Neato posted:we've literally never had a non-christian president. have we even had a non-christian candidate? it's pretty ridiculous to say he's an old white guy in the same way biden is. How quickly you have forgotten B-Rock the Islamic Shock.
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May 4, 2019 11:08
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KingNastidon posted:Turns out more younger people favor leftist policy, while older people do not. Until the AMA as a full org supports M4A then we know what the headlines and talking points will be. The AMA is naturally going to skew more conservative given age to obtain credentials and income. https://dailykos.com/stories/2019/4/11/1849524/-Bernie-s-revised-M4A-bill-is-here-what-s-changed Go do your own research if you have "concerns" Did you ever bother typing "bernie m4a details" into google before? One would think someone so concerned about the details would have done that already. ETA: Something tells me you're suddenly going to have 10-15 more "concerns" if you read that article that you probably could have had before now if you bothered to look anything up for yourself instead of just going "Well, Sanders really needs to work out the details of his M4A plan" over and over and over and over and over, holding posters to a literal impossible standard of "craft a bill so perfect that, I, KN, have no more concerns" Groovelord Neato posted:we've literally never had a non-christian president. have we even had a non-christian candidate? it's pretty ridiculous to say he's an old white guy in the same way biden is. For some reason, the thought of electing the first Jewish president as a refutation of Trump going Nazi never seems to get as much push as you would expect. I thought us Jews were supposed to run the media, someone must be slacking, I'll bring it up at the next meeting. 
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May 4, 2019 13:05
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Groovelord Neato posted:we've literally never had a non-christian president. have we even had a non-christian candidate? it's pretty ridiculous to say he's an old white guy in the same way biden is. Yes, it is actually of importance. However, it's not a disqualification of being an old white guy.
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May 4, 2019 13:51
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Groovelord Neato posted:we've literally never had a non-christian president. have we even had a non-christian candidate? it's pretty ridiculous to say he's an old white guy in the same way biden is. Silly groovelord, Catholics aren't Christian's, they worship idols not good. Here I have a chick tract all about it somewhere
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May 4, 2019 14:27
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Groovelord Neato posted:we've literally never had a non-christian president. have we even had a non-christian candidate? it's pretty ridiculous to say he's an old white guy in the same way biden is. Donald Trump fakes his religious beliefs, I don't think he's actually a Christian.
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May 4, 2019 14:36
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Spacebump posted:Donald Trump fakes his religious beliefs so do most ostensibly religious people. religion is more about group identity than actual belief
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May 4, 2019 14:43
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https://twitter.com/People4Bernie/status/1124055819258081280 The gloves are officially off: quote:"I think when people take a look at my record versus Vice President Biden's record -- I helped lead the fight against NAFTA; he voted for NAFTA," Sanders said Monday night in an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper. "I helped lead the fight against (permanent normal trade relations) with China; he voted for it. I strongly opposed the Trans-Pacific Partnership; he supported it. I voted against the war in Iraq; he voted for it."
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May 4, 2019 14:53
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Zero_Grade posted:Yeah, there are still some chuddy types of course, but I interact with a lot of med students, and a bunch are further left than a lot of people suspect. young people are generally surprisingly left in america today compare to what similar age was just 20 years ago or so
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May 4, 2019 15:09
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bowser posted:https://twitter.com/gmulligan38/status/1124424783825911808?s=19 Yeah, I mean you can point out that the poll has high proportion of home owners and people making over $50k than the general population but that's because primary voters are older and wealthier than the general population so it's not like the poll is skewing the voter sample. If you assume the electorate is going to be significantly different than what it was before obviously the poll is meaningless but idk about how likely that is.
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May 4, 2019 15:11
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Yea, the idea that a lot of young people might have gotten politically active for some mysterious reason and interested in participating in the primary since last time sure is far-fetched.
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May 4, 2019 15:18
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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1124667509242777600 lol they've learned NOTHING
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May 4, 2019 15:34
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I saw some idiotic cartoon by Ben Garrison's substantially less-talented wife in the Political Cartoon Thread where she drew "wacky" pictures of Biden, Beto and Buttigieg and called them all "Betas". It was, obviously, deeply stupid, and - given the crumminess of the three candidates she decided to "skewer" - I was decidedly un-offended. It's just... it made me think back to 2012 and realize that, for the incumbent party, a contested primary to face the president is an extremely fun and entertaining thing, and I'm fairly annoyed that they get to enjoy that this time. They don't deserve that. *wipes a tear away* Nine... nine... nine *sobs* e: By the way, I'm 100% sure she didn't include Bernie because Trump (the Garrisons' lord and master) is basically going to be doing everything he can do to pump Bernie up before the primaries begin. He, and many Republicans, seem to think that if they face that ONE PARTICULAR CANDIDATE, there's no way they could POSSIBLY lose! It all sounds pretty familiar, doesn't it? e2: Since I talked about it so drat much, here's the dumb cartoon.  I'm a sucker for a Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man joke but this one leaves me cold. Mellow Seas fucked around with this message at 15:47 on May 4, 2019 |
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May 4, 2019 15:39
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1124667509242777600 I don't know if these people are stupid or evil. It's really hard to tell.
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May 4, 2019 16:23
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mcmagic posted:I don't know if these people are stupid or evil. It's really hard to tell. 
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May 4, 2019 16:30
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Either way, Biden is completely out of touch with reality.
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May 4, 2019 16:31
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https://mobile.twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1124698481996832768 Sounds about right.
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May 4, 2019 16:37
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I've never been a fan of Biden and I kind of always expected him to do bad when he started campaigning. But drat he's surpassing my expectations. In the bad way.
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May 4, 2019 16:44
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Groovelord Neato posted:we've literally never had a non-christian president. have we even had a non-christian candidate? The Christianity of the first seven or so presidents was different enough from most modern faith traditions that they'd likely get slotted as agnostics or deists these days, and James Monroe was probably a full on atheist. Not that any of them really openly broke with Christian social mores and norms of the day.
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May 4, 2019 16:46
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STAC Goat posted:I've never been a fan of Biden and I kind of always expected him to do bad when he started campaigning. Both as awful as possible AND still somehow popular enough that he might win. He should just run as a Republican.
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May 4, 2019 16:49
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1124667509242777600 Word for word as predicted. What an odious tosser.
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May 4, 2019 16:53
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https://twitter.com/benjysarlin/status/1124697796941103104?s=21 Smart kid
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Gyges posted:Yes, it is actually of importance. However, it's not a disqualification of being an old white guy. This is a minimization of his lived cultural experience, akin to railing on Obama’s blackness because he’s not #ADOS. Please stop.
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