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A Moose posted:Aww gently caress. Temur reclamation is pretty much not a deck anymore. No point in playing Shock effects, there are now a critical mass of 3-toughness creatures that put you in the toilet. Now the deck needs Anger of the Gods to be playable. gently caress that was my favorite deck. What other decks are going to play Niv? I guess I just have to play Esper control because that seems like the 1 real deck in standard right now.
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Jeoh posted:Ali Aintrazi just slapped together a Tamiyo Nexus deck and it is DISGUSTING He hasn't been banned yet? Hellsau posted:If Kefnet doesn't die to removal, it still isn't very good. The swath of "unbeatable in limited and makes no impact in standard at all" cards is really annoying. They make a cycle of god eternals whose sole impact was making GBS threads up the limited format.
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# ? May 4, 2019 19:53 |
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Eej posted:It's a 4 mana flying 4/5 with upside what more do you want in a midrange deck that's not good enough in this standard. its a super weak upside that often does nothing.
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Eej posted:It's a 4 mana flying 4/5 with upside what more do you want in a midrange deck well i'd want a midrange deck that isn't garbage, for one
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This standard is BAD
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Hellsau posted:well i'd want a midrange deck that isn't garbage, for one https://twitter.com/mtgGraylon/status/1124489451697139712
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# ? May 4, 2019 19:56 |
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Kefnet is horrible in this deck against Gates-Nexus and Esper. Post-board with Esper, that matchup was just hilarious because their threats are all laughable and you get to just slam planeswalkers, clear the board and then own them.
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# ? May 4, 2019 20:03 |
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Yeah simic with nexus, reclamation and tamiyo seems real strong. Watch it in action (4:00:00 if the timestamp doesn't work) https://www.twitch.tv/videos/420251597?t=04h17s
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kefnet is bad
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# ? May 4, 2019 20:11 |
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Jeoh posted:Ali Aintrazi just slapped together a Tamiyo Nexus deck and it is DISGUSTING It's not really a unique development, tons of people are running tamiyo on arena. The card is dirty in the U/G nexus deck though. Hellsau posted:Kefnet is horrible in this deck against Gates-Nexus and Esper. Post-board with Esper, that matchup was just hilarious because their threats are all laughable and you get to just slam planeswalkers, clear the board and then own them. Yea it's weird how Kefnet turned out to only be good against aggro decks (because they can't answer a 5-toughness blocker). The only good hits against combo are discard spells and the control decks don't care about it coming back because they were already planning on casting a removal spell every few turns.
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# ? May 4, 2019 20:11 |
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moush posted:Sweet modern brew around the new Narset by Conley Woods. He went 5-0 in his very first friendly league and Caleb went 4-1 last night in a comp league with it. This deck looks like trash but 9-1 over two events is nothing to sneeze at. Lmfao this ought to be illegal.
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# ? May 4, 2019 20:12 |
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lol todd grabbed 2 fast losses and dropped and also hes bad. he seems like bad evidence that the deck is good
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Time posted:lol todd grabbed 2 fast losses and dropped and also hes bad. he seems like bad evidence that the deck is good Seems like you'd want to play actual threats or something. Deck seems like it falls over to any interaction. "oh gently caress I forgot counters exist. poo poo you can make people discard cards too? that's cheating!"
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https://twitter.com/utdzac/status/1124754938809204736?s=21
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Literally no decks feel good or strong right now. Lilliana might be the only new card that feels good to play. All new cards are basically unplayable until rotation. Decks that we know work: Nexus of fate. Esper control. Sultai Midrange. That's pretty much it I guess.
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# ? May 4, 2019 20:45 |
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So am I missing something or is Fblthp just an Elvish Visionary that tucks himself in this deck? I mean, it's fine if he is, I just want to make sure I'm not getting whooshed by some interaction.
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# ? May 4, 2019 20:50 |
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Yeah basically but he's also a lowdrop that flips on mox amber.
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A Moose posted:Literally no decks feel good or strong right now. Lilliana might be the only new card that feels good to play. All new cards are basically unplayable until rotation. Decks that we know work: Nexus of fate. Esper control. Sultai Midrange. That's pretty much it I guess. WTF are you talking about, there's a ton of extremely playable cards in this set. Teferi, Tamiyo, Ugin, Liliana, Domri, Ajani, Chandra, Dreadhorde Arcanist, Krenko, Feather, and that's just the stuff that's found shells, not the objectively powerful stuff like Nissa and Sarkhan. Oh I forgot Sorin, Oath of Kaya, Enter the Gods Eternal, and then the good uncommon stuff like Augur of Bolas, Prison Realm, Paradise Druid, Saheeli, Despark, Tyran'ts Scorn. I'm leaving out cards but this set is absolutely loaded with powerful constructed playables, I think people are having trouble making decks because of the sheer number of options. How much impact do you think a single set can possibly have on a format? Marketing New Brain fucked around with this message at 20:59 on May 4, 2019 |
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I feel like I'm never going to draft a better deck than this in this format:
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A Moose posted:Literally no decks feel good or strong right now. Lilliana might be the only new card that feels good to play. All new cards are basically unplayable until rotation. Decks that we know work: Nexus of fate. Esper control. Sultai Midrange. That's pretty much it I guess. That Saheeli deck that Daniela posted is pretty decent but people have adapted to it already and seems like there's not much more it can be tuned. Might be better off just adding Mizzium Tank and Finale of Promise to the regular izzet drakes list. Azorius aggro with Gideon and Mono red seem to be holding their own as far as aggro goes, plus various gruul or Naya decks, but it definitely feels like the midrange and control decks got a bigger bump in power from WAR and I don't foresee them getting displaced unless m20 has some surprisingly good stuff. Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 21:05 on May 4, 2019 |
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Mat Cauthon posted:That Saheeli deck that Daniela posted is pretty decent but people have adapted to it already and seems like there's not much more it can be tuned. I'm not expecting it, but it only takes one small reprint to throw a format into chaos. Bolt, Mana Leak, Path, Birds of Paradise, or hell even a much weaker card like Read the Bones could drastically change the format, and they put some spicy rares and mythics in last time that had a big impact.
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A Moose posted:Literally no decks feel good or strong right now. Lilliana might be the only new card that feels good to play. All new cards are basically unplayable until rotation. Decks that we know work: Nexus of fate. Esper control. Sultai Midrange. That's pretty much it I guess. This is satire, right?
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:This is satire, right? Oh yeah I forgot gruul
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anglachel posted:He hasn't been banned yet? Did I miss something? Why would he be?
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Hellsau posted:Kefnet is horrible in this deck against Gates-Nexus and Esper. Post-board with Esper, that matchup was just hilarious because their threats are all laughable and you get to just slam planeswalkers, clear the board and then own them. I've been pretty even against Esper post board and the Nexus matchup does suck. Whether people start sleeving it up en masse after this weekend basically determines how good a lot of early brews shake out. It does just poo poo on any creature based decks so that's a thing.
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deathbagel posted:The good news is, the bots being bad makes it super easy to do this. Yup. Though give some credit to people not knowing how to value cards at all. So many times my opponent has blown his terrible counterspells (the 4 mana one is not good, people) on inconsequential early poo poo, only to have nothing left when I drop my 5, 6, 7 mana bombs. This set is a little twisty compared to some previous, very linear sets, and you need to think more long-term because it's a lot slower. This deck was pretty insane, though. Citadel was almost unbeatable if I got to play it on curve and still have 15+ life (with this deck I was easily at 23+).
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Riversideblues posted:Did I miss something? Why would he be? He's been caught on camera multiple times cheating. Also sexual harassment. All the normal scumbag patterns anglachel fucked around with this message at 21:46 on May 4, 2019 |
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rkajdi posted:So apparently the trick to winning a draft is to play BW, have nobody else bother with the color, and then hoover up everything that gets passed to you. I ended up with Bolas' Citadel, God-Pharaoh's Statue, Massacre Girl, Dreadhorde Invasion, Finale of Eternity, Parhelion II and Oath of Kaya. Only Massacre Girl was in a pack I started with It was bad enough that I cracked a pack and took the foil Ajani on the third pack as a rare draft, and somehow had Despark show back up when it came back around. Won the event going away (was outplayed every game b/c I am bad, but being able to two or three for one when it mattered and continually pull of the deck with citadel won out) and got ugly looks about how my deck had everything. Of course it did, nobody else was bothering to play black at all. I do not get people sometimes. Is God-Pharaoh's Statue any good? I've passed it a few times since it seems kinda do-nothing.
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LeafHouse posted:Is God-Pharaoh's Statue any good? I've passed it a few times since it seems kinda do-nothing. It's a blank unless you draft Karn, in which case it's a decent 6/6 from outside of the game.
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Hellsau posted:It's a blank unless you draft Karn, in which case it's a decent 6/6 from outside of the game. I got demolished by one because they sided it in against my Parhelion lol
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Hellsau posted:Hey guys, God-Eternal Kefnet sucks. I've had it played against me a bunch of times by a bunch of different decks, and it's just not good. Yeah cool, when I cast a removal spell on your Kefnet you get to Opt and recast it next turn, but that was still a 1 for 1, and a 4/5 ain't gonna kill me fast enough for it to matter when you're blowing your turns recasting a french vanilla critter. The reprints they’ve already done have wrecked the secondary market and forced them into this situation lmao arena better save their rear end long term cause every other number is declining
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born on a buy you posted:The reprints they’ve already done have wrecked the secondary market and forced them into this situation lmao arena better save their rear end long term cause every other number is declining every number is declining other than "people playing modern" and "amount of money wotc received" and "number of hasbro executives strangling wotc to make their divisions profitable." also filterlands shouldn't have been worth anything to begin with and their price wouldn't have crashed so hard if the set they were reprinted had more cards people wanted in it
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# ? May 4, 2019 23:59 |
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I got very tired playing against Simic Nexus with Tamiyo yesterday. Makes me want to play unmoored ego just to screw it over.
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Hellsau posted:every number is declining other than "people playing modern" and "amount of money wotc received" and "number of hasbro executives strangling wotc to make their divisions profitable." maro standing in front of a huge stock ticker screen while a big red arrow labeled CHASE RARES goes down and a big blue one labeled DRAFT CHAFF goes up and then the words NEW WORLD ORDER flash on the screen and a giant klaxon blares
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# ? May 5, 2019 00:27 |
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Aw, Kefnet Midrange finished 7-1. Those Bant Midrange decks look pretty sweet though.
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born on a buy you posted:The reprints they’ve already done have wrecked the secondary market and forced them into this situation lmao arena better save their rear end long term cause every other number is declining Wrecked the secondary market how exactly? Is this some bitching from pre mm1 days because . Cards on average to close or exceeding all time highs. Sickening fucked around with this message at 00:36 on May 5, 2019 |
# ? May 5, 2019 00:30 |
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it is offensive to me that people would pay $69, one of the coolest amounts of cash possible, for a chalice. not only is it a piece of cardboard but it is a piece of cardboard designed to make games miserable and grindy.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:it is offensive to me that people would pay $69, one of the coolest amounts of cash possible, for a chalice. not only is it a piece of cardboard but it is a piece of cardboard designed to make games miserable and grindy. Its also a card that has been reprinted 3 times, 2 at rare, and is expensive. If you look at this chart and think the secondary market has an issue with prices being too low I am going to laugh in your face.
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Sickening posted:If you look at this chart and think the secondary market has an issue with prices being too low I am going to laugh in your face. There's an obvious problem with the secondary market and it's the fact that cards I have lots of don't go up in price whereas the cards I want do. Clearly WotC needs to fix this.
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Cynic Jester posted:There's an obvious problem with the secondary market and it's the fact that cards I have lots of don't go up in price whereas the cards I want do. Clearly WotC needs to fix this. The trick I've found is that if you sell your cards, they will go up and if you buy the other cards, they will go down hth
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