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I’m the guy strolling away from the blazing wreckage carrying the suitcase.
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Fancy_Breakfast posted:I'm the big airport truck not running survivors over. Man that was one of the dumbest arguments I ever got roped into here. Some guy was extremely upset that I was insulting first responders by saying they would probably have a major discussion about how to avoid that in the future instead of dropping it as “just an accident.”
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May 5, 2019 17:53
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I can’t believe they got that on the ground. I hope more video of the approach emerges.
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May 5, 2019 18:03
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slidebite posted:Back from PTY. I've never had so many problems with flights as that trip. Ugh. Between a blizzard in YYC, storms in IAH that had us sit on the runway for 1hr+ waiting for a gate to open and made our 6:30AM flight not leave until 11:30 the next day, and aircraft in PTY that couldn't start blocking access to the taxiway, good times. There's a headphones thread in IYG that would be able to give you some suggestions. There might be something on the last few pages of that thread as well.
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May 5, 2019 18:26
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I stopped using noise cancelling and use my molded earplugs. More comfortable to sleep laying down than headphones for me.
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May 5, 2019 18:46
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I'll check out IYG, never thought of it. Update from CBC on the Super Sukhoi incident at least 13 confirmed dead. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russian-aeroflot-plane-on-fire-moscow-sheremetyevo-airport-1.5123778 This reporter has several videos now https://twitter.com/ASLuhn
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Found while looking up info about the supposed widespread grounding of SSJs in Russia:quote:Operationally, the Sukhoi Superjet has been erratic. Safety concerns with the Superjet, (Russia’s first post-Soviet passenger plane), emerged soon after its introduction in 2008. A large number of employees at the Siberia factory responsible for working on the assembly of SSJ aircraft were found to have faked their university engineering degrees. Much as I'm willing to defend Soviet/Russian aviation, this is utterly unsurprising for a company in 21st century Russia. A commenter on the Avherald post for this accident claimed that much of the Superjet fleet in Russia proper is grounded, but that Aeroflot continues to use the type "for prestige reasons," which I cannot substantiate but again find plausible. Edit: quote:Furthermore, according to France’s L’Echo, Brussels Airlines has complained about the lack of maintenance manuals properly translated from Russian — adding to the complexities of operating this regional jet. https://aviationanalyst.co.uk/2018/11/04/the-airlines-ditching-unreliable-russian-sukhoi-superjets/ I'd ask how it's possible to be that incompetent on a project like this, but, y'know, post Soviet Russia. Plastic_Gargoyle fucked around with this message at 19:32 on May 5, 2019 |
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May 5, 2019 19:25
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Soviet jets had a pretty atrocious safety record too.
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May 5, 2019 20:39
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slidebite posted:
https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/1125126487148048384 It had declared an emergency before landing.
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priznat posted:Obvious but still aww Ola posted:https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/1125126487148048384 Wow
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May 5, 2019 21:16
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Looks like the mains collapsed, perhaps that ruptured a fuel tank.
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May 5, 2019 21:37
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slidebite posted:Since I don't really use headphones for my personal electronics, 3.5MM input, or at least option, would be best for plugging into the IFE. Any recommendations that aren't horrifically expensive? If you don't feel like loving around with iyg, pick up a $50 pair of Taotronics rechargeable noise cancelling bluetooth headphones on Amazon. They come with a 3.5mm cable, a charge is supposed to last 30 hours, the noise cancelling is pretty good (like, probably not $300 Bose good, but certainly good enough), and you have the option of bluetoothing them to your phone for podcasts or whatnot. I bought a pair for long airplane rides, and they done changed the game.
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Safety Dance posted:If you don't feel like loving around with iyg, pick up a $50 pair of Taotronics rechargeable noise cancelling bluetooth headphones on Amazon. They come with a 3.5mm cable, a charge is supposed to last 30 hours, the noise cancelling is pretty good (like, probably not $300 Bose good, but certainly good enough), and you have the option of bluetoothing them to your phone for podcasts or whatnot. I bought a pair for long airplane rides, and they done changed the game.  but I got these and they were great for a flight from philly to london last year, once you turn noise canceling on you never really realized how loud a plane is in the air. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CYZWS53/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Plinkey posted:
quote:Comfortable Protein Earpads
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slidebite posted:CBC is now reporting 40+ dead. Quite a change from the initial reports.  https://twitter.com/KFM936/status/1125121672212828162
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May 5, 2019 22:48
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Man, new transport-category aircraft are having a gently caress of a time. At least the 787 only got grounded for an extended period of time, it never actually killed anyone.
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 I've flown with aeroflot on the SSJ. Everything about it was far more comfortable and modern in comparison to other regional jets I've flown on. Besides who knows what the exact cause of this is. How's the SSJs safety record? For a plane that's around a few years now I don't recall hearing anything bad about it. I'd rather fly in an SSJ over ever being subjected to a pos e-190, avro RJ or a CRJ again.
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To be fair, I flew two legs on the MAX 8 and it was also extremely cool and good compared to the 737-700 I flew on last week. Having a large accident like this given a limited number of aircraft in service isn't necessarily a sign of anything seriously wrong with the design, but it's not good either. Planes aren't meant to catch fire like that, and while it's possible there was something that happened completely unrelated to the overall design, it's still not a good sign.
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PT6A posted:Man, new transport-category aircraft are having a gently caress of a time. What’s happened with the A350 or A220?
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hobbesmaster posted:What’s happened with the A350 or A220? Nothing, but that’s not an exceptional success considering the Sukhoi, the 787, the 737 MAX and the An-148. Batting .333 isn’t exactly an amazing record, especially with the very high-profile problems with the MAX and the suspicion being cast at the design and certification processes themselves as a result.
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PT6A posted:Man, new transport-category aircraft are having a gently caress of a time. Hasn’t killed anyone yet
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May 5, 2019 23:45
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I pretty much never do this but this is footage from inside the plane on landing and it genuinely freaked me out in a way that watching a bunch of crash videos never has. Just a heads up for folks.
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PT6A posted:Nothing, but that’s not an exceptional success considering the Sukhoi, the 787, the 737 MAX and the An-148. Batting .333 isn’t exactly an amazing record, especially with the very high-profile problems with the MAX and the suspicion being cast at the design and certification processes themselves as a result. Who knew the French and French Canadians would make the most reliable aircraft.
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e.pilot posted:Hasn’t killed anyone yet Didn’t they supposedly fix whatever the problem was?
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hobbesmaster posted:Who knew the French and French Canadians would make the most reliable aircraft. Until you fly them into the trees. Or ocean.
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hobbesmaster posted:Who knew the French and French Canadians would make the most reliable aircraft. Bombardier evidently sends the worst of the idiots to design and build their trains, keeping the aircraft part of the company semi-functional.
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MrYenko posted:Until you fly them into the trees. Or ocean. Both were blatant pilot errors though. Either way the lesson is to not let Frenchmen fly your plane.
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MrYenko posted:Until you fly them into the trees. Or ocean. The Air France A330 was a clear-cut failure of pilot training. The plane was flyable, it was behaving as it was designed to act and how it was documented to act, and the pilot couldn't recognize and recover from a stall given tens of thousands of feet to work with. EDIT: And for all the criticism of Airbus's admittedly arcane "alternate law" system, I think the issues with the MAX would indicate that they probably made the superior design decision. PT6A fucked around with this message at 00:09 on May 6, 2019 |
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slidebite posted:Back from PTY. I've never had so many problems with flights as that trip. Ugh. Between a blizzard in YYC, storms in IAH that had us sit on the runway for 1hr+ waiting for a gate to open and made our 6:30AM flight not leave until 11:30 the next day, and aircraft in PTY that couldn't start blocking access to the taxiway, good times. Y'know, three people I know lately have had terrible times flying in Canada - where simple delays turn flights multi-day. Is this a coincidence, or is the 737 MAX grounding really loving up Air Canada that badly?
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May 6, 2019 00:13
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That really is horrifying. Is there anything you can do beyond hope not to die?
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freelop posted:That really is horrifying. Not try to get your carry-on.
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freelop posted:That really is horrifying. As a passenger? Nothing. Leave quickly and without any luggage.
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May 6, 2019 00:33
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still gotta film it for the gram though
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Nebakenezzer posted:Y'know, three people I know lately have had terrible times flying in Canada - where simple delays turn flights multi-day. Is this a coincidence, or is the 737 MAX grounding really loving up Air Canada that badly? A few bad storms hitting on busy days, coupled with the max. Both AC and WS are down a good portion of their fleets, so a lot of routes aren't going as often as they should. Makes flying standby difficult too. I'm on a trip right now and I'm building in a 3 day buffer, even though I only have to fly 1 leg.
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It's 41 people gone. At least 41. The humanity. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/05/europe/russia-airplane-fire/index.html
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e.pilot posted:Hasn’t killed anyone yet Fucker's gonna drive me to an early grave, I tell you!
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Infinotize posted:still gotta film it for the gram though Hey. I clicked it 
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Fancy_Breakfast posted:How's the SSJs safety record? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Superjet_100#Accidents_and_incidents quote:
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