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Yeah Gen V has Scolipede, Volcarona, Crustle, Durant, Leavanny, Accelgor, Escavalier... Its the best gen bug-wise. Gen VII is a close second though with Araquanid, Golispod, Rimbombee, Vikavolt, Pheremosa and Buzzswole.
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Gen V was the generation where they asked the question "What if the Bug type had Pokemon that the player would want to keep on their team for the whole game?". Even Vivillon, who is still kind of crummy compared to Gen V and VII's bugs is still somewhat better then the likes of Beautifly and Mothim (in addition to its main gimmick that encourages trading).
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May 6, 2019 21:11
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The Champion of Unova was a Bug user. Gen IV was when Bugs got some actual moves, but Gen V was when Bugs got to be taken seriously.
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May 6, 2019 21:42
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Just ordered a 3DS, haven't played a Pokemon game since platinum. Which one(s) on the DS/3DS are the best, please convince me to wait for sword and shield. Also, I really liked Mystery Dungeon red back in the day, should I pick up super mystery dungeon?
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May 6, 2019 22:01
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ItBreathes posted:Just ordered a 3DS, haven't played a Pokemon game since platinum. Which one(s) on the DS/3DS are the best, please convince me to wait for sword and shield. If you're just buying one always buy the newest one, p much. That's going to be Ultra Sun or Ultra Moon.
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May 6, 2019 22:09
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Zore posted:Yeah Gen V has Scolipede, Volcarona, Crustle, Durant, Leavanny, Accelgor, Escavalier... I still love the fact that Ribombee is the biggest death engine on my US team.
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May 6, 2019 22:25
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ItBreathes posted:Just ordered a 3DS, haven't played a Pokemon game since platinum. Which one(s) on the DS/3DS are the best, please convince me to wait for sword and shield. BW has the best story in the franchise, a great level curve and it forces you to get out of your comfort zone by not giving you any old mons. Personal favourite. B2W2 is the only real sequel in the series and has a great dex but also some really bad new routes and nearly no story. Still good, not as good. XY has the move to 3D models but little beyond that and the amazing post-game Looker story. Fun but not exciting. SM goes back to a stronger plot and adds genuine boss battles to the mix, as well as finally moving beyond HMs and Gyms (short lived as it was) and introducing the best evil team. However, it has some really long cutscenes. Absolutely recommended if you don't mind that. USUM is just the third version to the above, although with a worse story. If you're in for the gameplay, and you want the newest stuff, this one's your pick. Alternatively you can just wait for SwSh but we know nearly nothing about them and you have a lot of time until they're released (most likely November) so you can play another game meanwhile. Also Super Mystery Dungeon is very good, yeah, although it's much harder than what came before. If you're looking for DS as well, Explorers of the Sky is amazingly good and the game that made me like MD, fully recommended.
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May 6, 2019 22:30
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play black 1/white 1 then wait for sword and shield. maybe play non-ultra sun/moon inbetween if you're still jonesing
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May 6, 2019 22:33
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Zuzie posted:Gen V was the generation where they asked the question "What if the Bug type had Pokemon that the player would want to keep on their team for the whole game?". It's still extremely hosed up that Vivillon was literally the only new bug type family introduced in Gen VI.
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May 6, 2019 23:17
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Cattail Prophet posted:It's still extremely hosed up that Vivillon was literally the only new bug type family introduced in Gen VI. Mega Heracross, Mega Scizor, Mega Beedrill, Mega Pinsir
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May 6, 2019 23:40
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less laughter posted:Mega Heracross, Mega Scizor, Mega Beedrill, Mega Pinsir You are a dictionary of mons that people forget.
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May 6, 2019 23:46
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ItBreathes posted:Just ordered a 3DS, haven't played a Pokemon game since platinum. Which one(s) on the DS/3DS are the best, please convince me to wait for sword and shield. US/UM loving rule and there's a ton of postgame stuff to do, you can catch most legendaries without having to perform a bunch of arcane rituals (just a racing minigame that's easy to master once you turn off motion controls) the story in S/M is better but top to bottom I think you'd enjoy the Ultra versions more
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May 6, 2019 23:52
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As far as I know, Sword/Shield are coming out for the Switch, so if you just bought a 3DS that won't help you much.
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What kind of complete ignorance of what people enjoy about Pokemon is making you weirdos suggest SM over USM? Ultra has more Pokemon, moves, and music. Who in their right mind would sacrifice that for a "better" story(it's Pokemon, they're all children's stories)
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May 7, 2019 00:20
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Nasgate posted:(it's Pokemon, they're all children's stories) by posting that in this thread, you're basically asking for 2500 words about how smart and touching the stories in pokemon games are
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May 7, 2019 00:26
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More Pokemon and More Moves only really matter while that game's generation is the relevant one, in a world where we're like 5 months or so out from sword/shield where there will almost undoubtedly be a way to get most of those pokemon and moves i'd absolutely go for the more well-crafted and cohesive singular experience in original sun/moon over ultra. it's the same reason i recommend black/white 1 over 2, at this point i dont give a poo poo that the move tutor knows extra things the first games are just better as a whole also us/um's music succcckss asssssssssss indigi posted:by posting that in this thread, you're basically asking for 2500 words about how smart and touching the stories in pokemon games are drat dude youre bad rear end
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May 7, 2019 00:29
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Entropist posted:As far as I know, Sword/Shield are coming out for the Switch, so if you just bought a 3DS that won't help you much. Got a Switch too. Mostly it's a tossup between US/UM and Alpha Sapphire, cuz I played me a poo poo ton of Sapphire back in the day, but I thought I'd see how people felt since I was tuned out completely for B/W, X/Y. Also, why is HG/SS so rare? Like, I knew they were but they've got a sealed Heart Gold at my local used game store for $100, when they only want $70 for a sealed gbc Silver.
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ItBreathes posted:Got a Switch too. Mostly it's a tossup between US/UM and Alpha Sapphire, cuz I played me a poo poo ton of Sapphire back in the day, but I thought I'd see how people felt since I was tuned out completely for B/W, X/Y. For one thing, Gen II cartridges are nearly universally unusable because of a problem with the battery, so that keeps the price down.
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May 7, 2019 00:32
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absolutely anything posted:More Pokemon and More Moves only really matter while that game's generation is the relevant one, in a world where we're like 5 months or so out from sword/shield where there will almost undoubtedly be a way to get most of those pokemon and moves i'd absolutely go for the more well-crafted and cohesive singular experience in original sun/moon over ultra. it's the same reason i recommend black/white 1 over 2, at this point i dont give a poo poo that the move tutor knows extra things the first games are just better as a whole
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May 7, 2019 00:35
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indigi posted:what exactly is missing from US/UM that makes S/M better besides a couple narrative tweaks? the Ultra versions have navigable ultra wormholes, the Rainbow Rocket episode, Mantine surfing, Ultra Megalopolis, Mina's trial, there's probably other stuff but that's just what I can remember off the top of my head. in terms of actual gameplay you get a more expansive game with more things to do and a better postgame at the expense of a bit of story From what I've seen in the thread, the idea is that their waifu gets more development.
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May 7, 2019 00:41
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indigi posted:what exactly is missing from US/UM that makes S/M better besides a couple narrative tweaks? the Ultra versions have navigable ultra wormholes, the Rainbow Rocket episode, Mantine surfing, Ultra Megalopolis, Mina's trial, there's probably other stuff but that's just what I can remember off the top of my head. in terms of actual gameplay you get a more expansive game with more things to do and a better postgame at the expense of a bit of story yeah there's more poo poo but most of that poo poo sucks and doesnt make the video game any more fun. the ultra wormhole minigame is the most inoffensive once you turn off motion controls i guess but i'd rather not be forced to play it to go to the ub's worlds, mantine surfing is dull as hell and barely worth playing the one time they force you to let alone repeating it, necrozma and ultra megalopolis are boring on their own and suck in the context of them steamrolling a bunch of already totally fine plot elements to make way for them, episode rr is a bad dungeon that goes on for too long with an interesting setup they barely do anything with. actually giving mina a trial was cool though (even if it was just "now go fight the captains")
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May 7, 2019 00:44
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absolutely anything posted:, episode rr is a bad dungeon that goes on for too long with an interesting setup they barely do anything with. I'll unequivocally agree with this in terms of the poster above since the primary appeal of that dungeon to me was the "Pokemon Trainer, This Is Your Life!" aspect of it. but then you do get to fight Giovanni afterward in that random battle game in the plaza which is fun
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May 7, 2019 00:53
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What I'm getting from this discussion is that Absolutely doesn't have ears. Ultra Recon, Manta Surfing, and Rainbow Rocket all are worth it just for the kickin' rad music.
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May 7, 2019 00:54
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Nasgate posted:What kind of complete ignorance of what people enjoy about Pokemon is making you weirdos suggest SM over USM? I really hate the logic : "It's for kids it's supposed to be dogshit  "It's the reason animation got handicapped for years in the west where nobody wanted to make an effort because they didn't think it would be profitable. And we got poo poo like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYs_GCy9PRk So yeah gently caress that, find you a good story if you want and thanks for coming to my TED talk.
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May 7, 2019 01:07
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As someone that played SM and USUM somewhat recently, I feel like SM felt...tighter? A lot of it was actually down to the writing, but USUM added tons of sidequests and optional things that kinda slowed the game down IMHO. However, USUM does have More Content and a more engaging endgame, you get to capture all the bullshit Legendaries, I actually kinda enjoyed RR Episode since it's basically a boss rush (and it gives you Sick Cash Money after you finish it) and Mantines are cute. Also it doesn't have a 30min long cutscene after you beat the last trainer.
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May 7, 2019 01:20
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why hasn't there been a squirtle squad game yet https://twitter.com/everydaylouie/status/1125497466210533376
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childhood pokemon players develop a unique pokemon-recognition region in their frontal cortex visible on MRI
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May 7, 2019 01:23
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Look at it from this perspective: Play SM for the story and atmosphere if that's your thing or play USUM for the move tutors and extra content if you're looking for that. There's no wrong answer here really it's just what you're personally looking for in a game.
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May 7, 2019 01:23
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Play both imo
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Nasgate posted:What kind of complete ignorance of what people enjoy about Pokemon is making you weirdos suggest SM over USM?  
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May 7, 2019 01:39
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Just another speedbump.
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May 7, 2019 01:49
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USUM completely ruins Lusamine’s character but it has more content so...  Play SM for the better plot, play USUM later for the extra stuff.
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May 7, 2019 01:50
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Reiterpallasch posted:childhood pokemon players develop a unique pokemon-recognition region in their frontal cortex visible on MRI this is how you tell that digimon don't look like pokemon right
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May 7, 2019 02:21
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The plot of Pokemon is for me to be the very best, in a manner unforeheretoseen. Anything else is a distraction from the series's core thesis of self improvement through friendship. It sounds like USUM is the way to go for the time honored tradition of 'em all catching, so one more question: which is cosier, Alola or Honenn?
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May 7, 2019 02:32
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Alola for sure.
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May 7, 2019 02:43
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Flopsy posted:So yeah gently caress that, find you a good story if you want and thanks for coming to my TED talk. Togedemaru Ekans Ditto talk?
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thetoughestbean posted:For one thing, Gen II cartridges are nearly universally unusable because of a problem with the battery, so that keeps the price down. This cost like nothing to fix though.
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d3lness posted:Togedemaru Ekans Ditto talk? TEDdiursa Talk
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Vandar posted:USUM completely ruins Lusamine’s character but it has more content so... The Ultra Beast missions are more interesting in S/M too aren't they?
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Oyster posted:You are a dictionary of mons that people forget. Mega pinsir is literally one of the best megas holy poo poo
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