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DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007


Randaconda posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSjy2sJL2vg

Gamester81 talking about the Super Famicom box.

This reminds me of those LodgeNet systems that let you rent SNES/N64 games in hotels... which is funny, because as I typed that, he namedropped LodgeNet.

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barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


I treasure my Microsoft Optical Mouse and known that when it dies, I lose a part of my hand. It's the only mouse that somehow truly fits me.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
I think mine survived about 15 years, to the perpetual chagrin of my friend who busted his in like 2002 and was mad that clearly it was his fault. I love the Logitech gaming mouse I replaced it with, too, but yeah, that is probably my favorite Microsoft product ever.

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!
The latest LGR video covers something I coveted so very much as a youngster, the $1,500 OQO ultra-mobile PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tYEbv26AFc

:retrogames:

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

I'm old, in my day I craved the Psion Revo, but was pretty happy with a Palm III at the ~$150 mark a bit later.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I was obsessing over HP iPaqs when I was a young teen because you could play quake on them or whatever. Luckily I never had enough money to buy one.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


an actual frog posted:

The latest LGR video covers something I coveted so very much as a youngster, the $1,500 OQO ultra-mobile PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tYEbv26AFc

:retrogames:

Back when these came out I was offered one from a crackhead for $200. I took one look at it - completely filled with korean military artillary calculation software. Nope!

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Humphreys posted:

Back when these came out I was offered one from a crackhead for $200. I took one look at it - completely filled with korean military artillary calculation software. Nope!

If only the Ukrainians had been as wise.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Cojawfee posted:

I was obsessing over HP iPaqs when I was a young teen because you could play quake on them or whatever. Luckily I never had enough money to buy one.

It was the Sharp Zaurus for me, the one with the vertical screen and slide-down keyboard. God those were cool...

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

I saw that video and started wondering how well that would have worked with modern hardware - I'm sure you could fit a quadcore atom, 8gb ram and a 256GB M.2 SSD into that form factor with reasonable battery life and performance. With a usb-c dock it would have been a plausible candidate for the "put your pc in your pocket and dock it at home and work" idea, too.

The GPD Win and similar things feel like proof that handheld windows devices are more realistic today, at least - but they're so niche that I can't really call the OQO ahead of its time, either.

stevewm
May 10, 2005
Given that there is no vintage computing thread, this seems to fit here...


Some interesting new discoveries concerning de-yellowing/Retrobrighting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P1OVj0IcqY


Turns out heat is likely the main culprit that caused the problem in the first place. And you can reverse it by setting the item in direct sunlight for a couple days with nothing applied to it! Heat being the culprit would also explain why it seems like things like power bricks usually seem to have yellowed much worse than the device they powered.

I am actually going to try this next week when I have time. I have a Mac IIc I used the peroxide method on, but it was short lived. 2 years later and its nearly back to the same state it was before the peroxide treatment.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
How much does a keyboard heat up though?

stevewm
May 10, 2005
The working theory is that indoor warmth, combined with diffused UVA light where likely the contributing factors.

When setting the item in the sun, you are bleaching it, just as many objects left in the sun get bleached.

Just no one really thought to try this, given that the prevailing theory was that direct sun exposure caused it in the first place.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
Here's my current favourite tech relic:



Amiga 1200 with 8GB CompactFlash card, Indivision scandoubler, 030 accelerator with 64mb RAM, NEC single-speed CD-ROM and a bunch of extra floppy drives for some reason.

The CD-ROM drive does work, though I don't have it set up at the moment because the drivers nearly triple the boot time and I only have the one disc for it. I'm going to have to add heat sinks and a cooling fan, the accelerator is a trapdoor expansion board that doesn't get a lot of airflow, so runs pretty bloody hot.

Those Star Cursor joysticks were made right here in Australia and were pretty much ubiquitous during the Amiga's heyday.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Bargearse posted:

I'm going to have to add heat sinks and a cooling fan, the accelerator is a trapdoor expansion board that doesn't get a lot of airflow, so runs pretty bloody hot.

They used to do dodgy things with those accelerators. Lots of 33mhz and 40mhz accelerators had 25mhz chips in them with the speed rating scratched off.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

Sweevo posted:

They used to do dodgy things with those accelerators. Lots of 33mhz and 40mhz accelerators had 25mhz chips in them with the speed rating scratched off.

Sounds about right. This one has a 40mhz oscillator crystal but who knows what speed the CPU is natively? Lots of these accelerators came along relatively late in the Amiga’s life and, well, why bother making a quality product when Commodore seems intent on mismanaging it all into the ground anyway?

edit: I seem to remember GVP’s accelerators didn’t have these issues, apart from the weird-rear end custom RAM SIMMs.

Bargearse has a new favorite as of 00:28 on May 7, 2019

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Computer viking posted:

The GPD Win and similar things feel like proof that handheld windows devices are more realistic today, at least - but they're so niche that I can't really call the OQO ahead of its time, either.

Fun fact - one was used in the TV show 'Jericho'

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://twitter.com/CoolBoxArt/status/1125511344533450753

https://twitter.com/CoolBoxArt/status/1124720342931521536

https://twitter.com/CoolBoxArt/status/1124056741757562880

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004



Barudak
May 7, 2007

I will never enjoy anything as much as that guy enjoys causing a Mega Apocalypse

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

stevewm posted:

Given that there is no vintage computing thread, this seems to fit here...


Some interesting new discoveries concerning de-yellowing/Retrobrighting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P1OVj0IcqY


Turns out heat is likely the main culprit that caused the problem in the first place. And you can reverse it by setting the item in direct sunlight for a couple days with nothing applied to it! Heat being the culprit would also explain why it seems like things like power bricks usually seem to have yellowed much worse than the device they powered.

I am actually going to try this next week when I have time. I have a Mac IIc I used the peroxide method on, but it was short lived. 2 years later and its nearly back to the same state it was before the peroxide treatment.

Well this is going to cut down the runtime on the 8-bit guy's future videos.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Sunlight may bleach things? Amaging discovery! :eyepop:

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
Alf logic: Should I eat this house cat? Answer: Always Yes.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Jerry Cotton posted:

Sunlight may bleach things? Amaging discovery! :eyepop:

Sunlight bleaches things that were long thought to have yellowed from UV exposure: Actually unexpected.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Bargearse posted:

Here's my current favourite tech relic:



Amiga 1200 with 8GB CompactFlash card, Indivision scandoubler, 030 accelerator with 64mb RAM, NEC single-speed CD-ROM and a bunch of extra floppy drives for some reason.

The CD-ROM drive does work, though I don't have it set up at the moment because the drivers nearly triple the boot time and I only have the one disc for it. I'm going to have to add heat sinks and a cooling fan, the accelerator is a trapdoor expansion board that doesn't get a lot of airflow, so runs pretty bloody hot.

Those Star Cursor joysticks were made right here in Australia and were pretty much ubiquitous during the Amiga's heyday.

Nice, I only have a FPU + 8MB RAM add on for my A1200. I'd love a CPU accelerator card, but they are ridiculously expensive. Maybe one day the A1200 Vampire will come out.

I have a Star Cursor joystick, but the previously owner (or their kids) ripped the label off the top of the controller so it looks like poo poo. I love the 80s era arcade machine buttons on it, brings back some memories.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

You Am I posted:

Nice, I only have a FPU + 8MB RAM add on for my A1200. I'd love a CPU accelerator card, but they are ridiculously expensive. Maybe one day the A1200 Vampire will come out.

I have a Star Cursor joystick, but the previously owner (or their kids) ripped the label off the top of the controller so it looks like poo poo. I love the 80s era arcade machine buttons on it, brings back some memories.

I have a spare CPU accelerator card somewhere that I'd be willing to part with, PM me if you're interested.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uawHtD4eWhE

Nerd talking about that hideous Apple cube dealie. He's says it's beautiful, but it's one of the ugliest computers I've ever seen.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


This was always my most hated Mac design:

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Cartoon Man posted:

This was always my most hated Mac design:



It's like a Tamagotchi & a Vick's VapoRub container had a terrible plastic baby



I think this one was worse & even had some cooling issues too because of the design, just all-around awful IMHO

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Cartoon Man posted:

This was always my most hated Mac design:



It looks like a toy.

(Even more than most Apple products :smugdog:)

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Randaconda posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uawHtD4eWhE

Nerd talking about that hideous Apple cube dealie. He's says it's beautiful, but it's one of the ugliest computers I've ever seen.

The best use of these things was when forums poster jonny290 made an internet-connected weed vaporizer in one and let me turn it on over irc

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Regular Nintendo posted:

The best use of these things was when forums poster jonny290 made an internet-connected weed vaporizer in one and let me turn it on over irc

tell me more, cause that owns :allears:

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Iirc he had an arduino and raspi in it (this was like 6-7 years ago) and ran an irc client on it that just listened for stuff like "/yosvape turn on" or "/yosvape 300" for temp (totally paraphrasing the irc commands) and it would report into the irc channel its temp as it warmed up and be like "ready for WeEeEeD" when it hit its target

Thing fuckin owned and was probably a hell of a good learning project

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Cartoon Man posted:

This was always my most hated Mac design:



I bought one of those last year for $15 and installed OS 9. It's fascinating to play with and also incredibly frustrating because every single task requires its own standalone application that you have to track down and install separately. I've been incredibly spoiled by Linux package managers.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

BOOTY-ADE posted:

It's like a Tamagotchi & a Vick's VapoRub container had a terrible plastic baby



I think this one was worse & even had some cooling issues too because of the design, just all-around awful IMHO

Was this the one that sliced your fingers open if you tried to work on it?

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

The most ridiculous piece of Apple paraphernalia I've ever seen is a custom server rack to hold a bunch of clustered trashcan Mac Pros. So, at what point should you just give up on Apple and the Apple Tax and just buy standard server hardware? All the big software packages that used to be pretty much Mac-exclusive are now either perfectly capable on Windows too or OS-agnostic, what's left besides fanboyism and habit that keeps you spending the money?

Desktop, sure, whatever, it's your money. Server equipment, I just don't get it.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

rndmnmbr posted:

The most ridiculous piece of Apple paraphernalia I've ever seen is a custom server rack to hold a bunch of clustered trashcan Mac Pros. So, at what point should you just give up on Apple and the Apple Tax and just buy standard server hardware? All the big software packages that used to be pretty much Mac-exclusive are now either perfectly capable on Windows too or OS-agnostic, what's left besides fanboyism and habit that keeps you spending the money?

Desktop, sure, whatever, it's your money. Server equipment, I just don't get it.

Do you have a link to this

Development on macs, sure, but lmao what

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

rndmnmbr posted:

The most ridiculous piece of Apple paraphernalia I've ever seen is a custom server rack to hold a bunch of clustered trashcan Mac Pros. So, at what point should you just give up on Apple and the Apple Tax and just buy standard server hardware? All the big software packages that used to be pretty much Mac-exclusive are now either perfectly capable on Windows too or OS-agnostic, what's left besides fanboyism and habit that keeps you spending the money?

Desktop, sure, whatever, it's your money. Server equipment, I just don't get it.

ios development

the new mac minis are basically built to be stacked in build farms

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

rndmnmbr posted:

The most ridiculous piece of Apple paraphernalia I've ever seen is a custom server rack to hold a bunch of clustered trashcan Mac Pros. So, at what point should you just give up on Apple and the Apple Tax and just buy standard server hardware? All the big software packages that used to be pretty much Mac-exclusive are now either perfectly capable on Windows too or OS-agnostic, what's left besides fanboyism and habit that keeps you spending the money?

Desktop, sure, whatever, it's your money. Server equipment, I just don't get it.

I would assume the Mac Pros were being used as workstations before and are just getting repurposed in lieu of, like, buying new server hardware

Just upgrade one set of equipment instead of upgrading two and dumpstering a bunch of perfectly good (and expensive) computers, and whatnot

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Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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