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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Drogon easily winning and beating Euron and KL’e defenses is going to be painted as a “because Dany doesn’t care about keeping innocents alive” and not “lets use our dragons smartly and attack from above / our of LOS from the ballista” and it’s going to rule. Been saying it for a while now, but Cersei is the only person since like Season 1 to be like "Hey, the Dothraki are our version of Mongols/Huns. What are they just gonna help Dany get the throne, then they'll either go back to Essos or start farming here?" Also lol at the idea of white people not doing any horrible poo poo in the series between The Mountain's army (by Tywin's orders), The Boltons (not just Ramsay, stuff is done by his order), The Wildlings (their raids, and especially Thenns), The Greyjoys (they basically wipe out Winterfell on top of their other raids), the Freys, Joffrey, the Hill Tribes (kinda I guess, you see them doing raids and torturing soldiers after the battle), Those Brotherhood guys that attacked the settlement, etc. Hell, even the Night's Watch are basically the SS stormtroopers of Westeros if you're talking to a Wildling. The only real monsters to commit large-scale atrocities shown on Essos are The Dothraki and the city slavers, unless I'm missing some big standouts.
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Raccooon posted:Episode one is going to have white southern dudes raping some of their slaves. I recently lived in the South for a few years and holy loving poo poo I can't overstate this enough Slutitution fucked around with this message at 04:45 on May 8, 2019 |
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Lmao. Disney? Stop? Hey Avatar is coming out in 2021. I guess it’s true to find it we need to look under the sea.
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May 8, 2019 05:01
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 seriously gently caress you disney (quickly goes to check the price of disney stock)
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May 8, 2019 05:08
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Regarding the surrender bells making Dany go nuts: the only sound I can think of that would make Dany go crazy is that stupid loving dragon horn that they haven't introduced.
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May 8, 2019 05:11
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I guess girls just can’t stand the pressure. Lol at Cersei being the strong female character of game of thrones.
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LadyPictureShow posted:Speaking of disappearing Dothraki, did they ever say what happened to her one bloodrider from S2? He led them to Qarth, and was hanging around with Jorah outside the house of the Undying. He was seen looting Xaro's treasure stash, then disappeared forever
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Back in season one there were multiple scenes showing exactly how dothraki warriors deal with people they conquer, right? It was a driving force behind several plot points, even.
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DoctorGonzo posted:subverting expectations you want a good show but you need the bad poosey this show is coated with a special ointment from Asshai. i call it the truncated farewell
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Chris James 2 posted:4 years ago Better with the missing joke in between 
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Lannister soldiers in chorus: "Your lover is your nephew You just burnt down a refuge Your dragon is now fish food Targaryen family *clap clap clap clap*"
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theBeaz posted:I mean... the books all had presumably white armies raping and pillaging all the drat time. It’s been a while, but has the show not communicated that as well? It’s a horrible side effect of war committed by all ethnicities and nationalities especially when the opponent is an “other”. Seems weird for people to be obsessing over the color thing. You can’t look at things like this in isolation because whether you like it or not, and whether you personally believe it’s a thing that happens or that it’s a problem etc, and no matter how much you want to just say “well in the books white dudes rape too” it just doesn’t work that way. An army of white dudes raping an entire city is seen much differently than an army of brown dudes raping the same city. See: brown person doing bad things = terrorist fullstop, while white person doing bad things = mentally unstable lone wolf most of the time, maybe terrorist some times.
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The Unsullied going insane doesn't make a lot of sense considering they're basically born* to be emotionless soldiers. I mean, I get they're all symbiotes of Grey Worm in the show and act like his Pacific Rim robot or some poo poo, but it's a bit of a stretch. * - glossing over the entirety of how Unsullied are trained/neutered etc
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Sky Shadowing posted:Someone who is allegedly a super-accurate leaker about GoT leaked this poo poo over at the freefolk, and holy gently caress goons strap in because if this poo poo is true D&D literally went 'salt the loving earth' on this franchise.  Please let this be true. Please burn the whole franchise to the ground and cause massive histeria while mothers crowd the civil registry to request their daughters name changed from Khaleesi
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Zedd posted:IIRC he got locked in the vault with that one lady that betrayed Dany. They just locked up the one handmaiden with him. I looked it up, turns out his name was Kovarro, and quote:Despite Kovarro surviving the events of Season 2, Steven Cole hasn't returned for Seasons 3, 4 or 5, presumably due to Daenerys' khalasar having a mostly background role Guess he just went back to his home planet.
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Dany going full mad queen in KL has always been her path and I am very hype lol if bells set her off tho
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It's the ending I expected too but they still failed on every level to build up to it for there to be any payoff.
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Bottom Liner posted:It's the ending I expected too but they still failed on every level to build up to it for there to be any payoff. Oh, agreed. I look forward to the fallout.
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mastershakeman posted:The unsullied breaking decades of psychological conditioning to rampage is gonna rule i legit cant wait for this and the endless amount of tears in brings monday
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I *do* wonder though -- if the direction they're going with the plot IS what we think it's going to be... maybe the ending that George came up with in the 90s when he first kicked this sucker off plays a lot more unsatisfying now in 2019 than it would have back then? I'm mostly thinking Dany here. I've got a sense there's going to be mountains of salt for it and I'm not sure they're wrong but I also get the sense the reaction would have been very different 20 years ago.
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Memnaelar posted:I *do* wonder though -- if the direction they're going with the plot IS what we think it's going to be... maybe the ending that George came up with in the 90s when he first kicked this sucker off plays a lot more unsatisfying now in 2019 than it would have back then? I'm mostly thinking Dany here. I've got a sense there's going to be mountains of salt for it and I'm not sure they're wrong but I also get the sense the reaction would have been very different 20 years ago. GRRM had only supposedly outlined his books as far as the Red Wedding. The rumour that had been floating about prior to this season was GRRM only had a faint sketch of an ending, leaving B&W to improvise their way there and, more importantly, that in light of the upcoming merger HBO had cut costs. Obviously what we've seen since the season started has backed this up. Take the budget news with skepticism by all means, but I'm starting to believe that it's true given how they're having to defend some choices that were clearly cut for money reasons. Or even just generally how production overall has suffered. DrVenkman fucked around with this message at 08:39 on May 8, 2019 |
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The story has had so much creep it's unreal. No way did the Unsullied exist in the initial drafting of the overall plot. Dany would have only had Dothraki but then every just grew and grew. I'm still a bit puzzled with how unremarkable Grey Worm is visually though. He's not much of a warrior to look at in any way. Tyrion has more scars than the fella.
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esperterra posted:Dany going full mad queen in KL has always been her path and I am very hype Yep, I don't see how anyone is surprised by this. The only other option would have been HBO chickening out for a disney princess ending, but that didn't seem very likely esperterra posted:lol if bells set her off tho I feel like this part is someone having seen a tiny bit of a scene/script/shot without understanding context. I sincerely doubt the bells are what's making her flip her poo poo, they're probably just ominously tolling in the background while it's happening. E: And about the Unsullied, they're murder-robots who will do exactly as they're told and Grey Worm is their general. Grey Worm has over several seasons been shown to break away from his emotionless state and come to love Missandei above all else. Missandei was just murdered in front of him, it makes all the sense in the world he'll flip his poo poo and order his murder-robots to get revenge. TheRat fucked around with this message at 09:27 on May 8, 2019 |
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TheRat posted:Yep, I don't see how anyone is surprised by this. The only other option would have been HBO chickening out for a disney princess ending, but that didn't seem very likely Especially if their queen is currently also rampaging through KL. The Unsullied will follow her to death. re: Dany, tbh I was very much worried D&D would just have her be yas kween slay good guy the whole time, especially after they dropped the prophecies that drive her mad and then made all of the horrible and cruel poo poo she does in Essos come off as a good thing lmao I'm glad they aren't doing that. Memnaelar posted:I *do* wonder though -- if the direction they're going with the plot IS what we think it's going to be... maybe the ending that George came up with in the 90s when he first kicked this sucker off plays a lot more unsatisfying now in 2019 than it would have back then? I'm mostly thinking Dany here. I've got a sense there's going to be mountains of salt for it and I'm not sure they're wrong but I also get the sense the reaction would have been very different 20 years ago. Even early on Dany was pretty clearly not supposed to be a good guy who would swoop in and save Westeros and rule as a just queen. Most of her crazy comes out in Dance, but it's still there in the first three books.
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Those leaks can't be real. They made a point of killing off all the Dothraki, leaving Dany with a pitiful selection of Unsullied when she went up to King's Landing. I suppose there could just be more sitting around somewhere, I wouldn't put it past the show, but it wouldn't make sense.
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Hakkesshu posted:Those leaks can't be real. They made a point of killing off all the Dothraki, leaving Dany with a pitiful selection of Unsullied when she went up to King's Landing. I suppose there could just be more sitting around somewhere, I wouldn't put it past the show, but it wouldn't make sense. Last episode Tyrion talked about how most of the Dothraki and Unsullied rode south with Jon, and on Dragonstone Varys is worried about what the Dothraki would do when they attacked King's Landing.
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Hakkesshu posted:Those leaks can't be real. They made a point of killing off all the Dothraki, leaving Dany with a pitiful selection of Unsullied when she went up to King's Landing. I suppose there could just be more sitting around somewhere, I wouldn't put it past the show, but it wouldn't make sense. I don't think the show made it clear enough but those 20 unsullied weren't her entire force, they looked like her guard for the meeting.
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Hakkesshu posted:Those leaks can't be real. They made a point of killing off all the Dothraki, leaving Dany with a pitiful selection of Unsullied when she went up to King's Landing. I suppose there could just be more sitting around somewhere, I wouldn't put it past the show, but it wouldn't make sense. They flat out state that half the Dothraki and Unsullied survived. That's still a much larger army than Cersei's, standing just outside the frame.
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Hakkesshu posted:but it wouldn't make sense. That's never stopped the show before. Remember when they left Hardhome by boat and yet appeared north of the Wall just so Jon could have his staredown with Alliser?
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SimonChris posted:They flat out state that half the Dothraki and Unsullied survived. That's still a much larger army than Cersei's, standing just outside the frame. Found it extremely entertaining that this means she only sent exactly half of them to die against the Dead, so that the other half had to chill somewhere else as we didn't see those at all. Also, the corpse burning scene was not too crowded in corpses either and they managed to remove both their dead as well as the now dead undeads all over and around winterfell quite fast, too. In fact given their party and their planning it did look like the day after the battle or so. So it can't be all that much.
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There was a leak at the beginning of the season/few weeks ago that skimmed over a lot of poo poo in a short paragraph, and a bit that was glossed over was ‘Missandai dies causing the Unsullied to go into a rage’. The first part proved to be accurate after several eps, and now the new leak supports the second bit but with a lot more context/specificity. Maybe the visual raping and pillaging is not gratuitous and only alluded to, but I bet that’s the way it’s going. Grey Worm snaps, kills a prisoner and the Unsullied hive mind goes ham and massacres the lot. Dothraki get hyped on bloodlust without their strict dragon-mum their to discipline them and get their rape/pillage on. It’s absolutely something double D would do and I for one look forward to the remaining 160 minute slow motion train wreck. Also lmbo at people thinking "Jaime wants Brienne to think he's betraying her but he's really going to kill Cersei!" nah it's literally just hamfisted writing and he's crawling straight back to Cersei because that's all the writers know how to do with him. They die together because they're both 'hateful' or whatever. Here's part of it, can't find the bit that mentioned the Unsullied though, but it was the same leaker. Savy Saracen salad posted:Hello. Come back to this post after the episode airs next week. Creepy Goat fucked around with this message at 13:38 on May 8, 2019 |
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There's absolutely a way to do this whole leaked thing in a way that makes total sense and is effectively a series of unfortunate events and the showrunners have proved that absolutely wont happen and we're going to just cut from Jon yelling at Dany the enemy surrendered to huge piles of dead civilians
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bobjr posted:Drogon taking Dany’s body away and just leaving is funny because the alternative is Drogon just losing control and you have a rampaging dragon with no master flying around Westeros now If she dies in the throne room does that mean Drogon burst in there kool aid man style and snags her or will someone be tasked with bringing her corpse outside.
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I guess the only garbled message I can see for Dany, is that Sansa had all this horrible poo poo and it made her stronger (as per on-the-nose line she had last ep), Dany suffers all this not-anywhere-near-as-horrible poo poo and it breaks her. Sansa is a better ruler than Dany? I mean I'm just stretching here to find any semblance of meaning in any of the remaining characters plots anymore.
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bobjr posted:Drogon taking Dany’s body away and just leaving is funny because the alternative is Drogon just losing control and you have a rampaging dragon with no master flying around Westeros now 20 good men and a ballista will bring it down, no problem. Creepy Goat posted:I mean I'm just stretching here to find any semblance of meaning in any of the remaining characters plots anymore. Forget it, Creepy Goat. It's Westeros.
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i am the bird posted:Forget it, Creepy Goat. It's Westeros. Yeah poo poo, I mean this bobjr posted:Drogon taking Dany’s body away and just leaving is funny because the alternative is Drogon just losing control and you have a rampaging dragon with no master flying around Westeros now is literally a completely straight-faced "'and then Drogon returned to his home planet". If working in product has taught me anything it's that they failed to manage budget and time effectively and were like: "Ah gently caress what do we do with the dragon we can't just cut it and we already sent the 20 good men and ballista guys home" "Well we've got 25 seconds of stock flying animation, we could make him fly off looking sad and spin it like he returned to the dragon homeland where he belongs or some poo poo?" "nicee, knock it up by noon"
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mastershakeman posted:The unsullied breaking decades of psychological conditioning to rampage is gonna rule The Dothraki didn't die, they took a wrong turn at Albuquerque!
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Amending my Brienne-Pod spinoff script. They're still roaming from town-to-town solving the smallfolks' problems, but now the reason they're roaming around is they're hunting Drogon.
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